Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)

[ironwez20]

Seeing this at 10. Can't wait to see spidey in action!!!!! Squeeeeeeeee!!!!!

 

[Victοr]

Agreed. Batman vs Black PANTHER should be overkill. Batman is basically fighting a replica of himself but eho is stronger, faster, more durable, more agile, etc.

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Never mind the fact that T'Challa is more agile, has super-powers, is smarter and has more resources than God. It's a real mismatch, truth be told. Hell, in Secret Wars he had control over the dead as King of the Dead. He could command zombies! Not to mention he built a raft that survived the destruction of the Omniverse. Apart from that, T'Challa is everything Batman is, but turned up to 11. What I find "funny" is how some delusional fanboys think that Batman has a chance against Spider-Man, especially in a random encounter. Man, now that's some BS right there!

 

[Darkseed]

You nailed it- YES

Come on Spin....your hard on for BvS clouds your judgement. This was a far superior film in most folks eyes the critics and fans nailed both appropriately...

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Come on Spin....your hard on for BvS clouds your judgement. This was a far superior film in most folks eyes the critics and fans nailed both appropriately...

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior

 

[Victοr]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior

At this point, this pic is fact, not mere meme-material:

It has ascended to a higher plane of meme...ness...

 

[GasparZizou]

Never mind the fact that T'Challa is more agile, has super-powers, is smarter and has more resources than God. It's a real mismatch, truth be told. Hell, in Secret Wars he had control over the dead as King of the Dead. He could command zombies! Not to mention he built a raft that survived the destruction of the Omniverse. Apart from that, T'Challa is everything Batman is, but turned up to 11. What I find "funny" is how some delusional fanboys think that Batman has a chance against Spider-Man, especially in a random encounter. Man, now that's some BS right there!

Everything else, yes, but smarter? How?

I'm no Batman fanboy but I do believe he has a shot against plenty people given dudepreptimelmao or just background knowledge, random encounters? Nope, retreat it is.

 

[GasparZizou]

the critics and fans nailed both appropriately...

 

[Darkseed]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior

At this point, this pic is fact, not mere meme-material:

It has ascended to a higher plane of meme...ness...

Oh yea

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Never mind the fact that T'Challa is more agile, has super-powers, is smarter and has more resources than God. It's a real mismatch, truth be told. Hell, in Secret Wars he had control over the dead as King of the Dead. He could command zombies! Not to mention he built a raft that survived the destruction of the Omniverse. Apart from that, T'Challa is everything Batman is, but turned up to 11. What I find "funny" is how some delusional fanboys think that Batman has a chance against Spider-Man, especially in a random encounter. Man, now that's some BS right there!

Man, the MCU characters are so depowered compared to their comic counterparts That's one thing I don't like about the MCU.

 

[SNIKT1950]

At this point, this pic is fact, not mere meme-material:

It has ascended to a higher plane of meme...ness...

Not really.

Civil War is good - but that's it. Its nowhere near at the level of TWS. Its more an Avengers 2.5 than a Cap movie. Its fun and entertaining but extremely shallow.

The biggest problem is the film had no teeth. Nobody died, nobody got truly affected by the events of CW. So, The Avengers aren't sanctioned by the U.N. now. Honestly, who cares?

The movie should have changed the MCU forever. It didn't. All it did was introduce two new heroes.

The film opens with The Avengers performing unsanctioned work and ends with The Avengers continuing that unsanctioned work.

With BvS the world lost Superman, the JLA began to form and Batman regained his moral code.

I'll take those two dark and depressing funerals over that ******** apology letter and pointless mid-credits "resolution" for Bucky.

 

[Victοr]

Everything else, yes, but smarter? How?

I'm no Batman fanboy but I do believe he has a shot against plenty people given dudepreptimelmao or just background knowledge, random encounters? Nope, retreat it is.

Batman's good, but folks overestimae him. T'Challa, during Secret Wars, created a Raft that survived the destruction of the Omniverse. When everything turned white and the only things left were what God Emperor Doom managed to save after killing the Beyonders, T'Challa's Raft survived on its own. That's far more impressive than the Insider Suit, the JL-Buster or the OMAC. Not to mention that recently he and Blue Marvel cured Galactus and turned him into a Life-Bringer. He also created his very own branch of Physics called "Shadow Physics". Using Kimoyo he can communicate with anyone, no matter where in the Universe they are.

Batman's good. He's very good. But when compared to Tony's engineering feats, Black Panther's polymath skills, or in general to Reed or DOOM, he's not much. I won't even bring up The Maker, cause that would be a blasphemy... But yeah, Batman loses the Black Panther fight 8 times out of 10.

As for Spider-Man, there's really no way he can defeat him. Parker's a genius himself, even harnessing the Cosmic Cube's power using archaic tools. Add his speed, power, agility and whatnot, and I don't see Batman escaping. Best case scenario is if Batman has tons of prep and catches Parker in his sleep or something. If he's bloodlusted, or has relaxed morals like, say, SpOck, O'Hara or Kaine, it's game over for Batsy.

I'm a Batman fan, but he loses many of the match-ups folks believe he totes wins. It's just that his feats have been largely overrated the last couple of years, while also downplaying other characters' feats.

 

[GasparZizou]

BP looks pretty well represented.

He was able to keep up with Bucky's search on his own, both physically and with tracking.

His took 50 cal bullets without even flinching and fought WS like it was a sparring match, hell, I don't think that bus Vision stopped would've done anything to him

Not to mention they actually made Wakanda feel like an international power.

 

[Darkseed]

Cause a funeral which brings back characters is teeth....too each their own.

 

[YoNoSe]

So many teeth in that world-building email....

 

[GasparZizou]

Batman's good, but folks overestimae him. T'Challa, during Secret Wars, created a Raft that survived the destruction of the Omniverse. When everything turned white and the only things left were what God Emperor Doom managed to save after killing the Beyonders, T'Challa's Raft survived on its own. That's far more impressive than the Insider Suit, the JL-Buster or the OMAC. Not to mention that recently he and Blue Marvel cured Galactus and turned him into a Life-Bringer. He also created his very own branch of Physics called "Shadow Physics". Using Kimoyo he can communicate with anyone, no matter where in the Universe they are.

Batman's good. He's very good. But when compared to Tony's engineering feats, Black Panther's polymath skills, or in general to Reed or DOOM, he's not much. I won't even bring up The Maker, cause that would be a blasphemy... But yeah, Batman loses the Black Panther fight 8 times out of 10.

As for Spider-Man, there's really no way he can defeat him. Parker's a genius himself, even harnessing the Cosmic Cube's power using archaic tools. Add his speed, power, agility and whatnot, and I don't see Batman escaping. Best case scenario is if Batman has tons of prep and catches Parker in his sleep or something. If he's bloodlusted, or has relaxed morals like, say, SpOck, O'Hara or Kaine, it's game over for Batsy.

I'm a Batman fan, but he loses many of the match-ups folks believe he totes wins. It's just that his feats have been largely overrated the last couple of years, while also downplaying other characters' feats.

Wait, so you're telling me Black Panther is on Reed's or Luthor tier of intelligence? I didn't know that. Daaaamn.

And I think you're lowballing Bats against Spidey with preptime. Bats is smarter than Spidey and has waaaaay more experience. if it was a cage fistfight Batman would surely lose though.

 

[Victοr]

Man, the MCU characters are so depowered compared to their comic counterparts That's one thing I don't like about the MCU.

Eh, Cap is near perfect. Hulk if let loose I imagine would be much more lethal. Spidey looked great. T'Challa was a damn beast. Thor is really underpowered though, I will agree on that part.

Not really.

Civil War is good - but that's it. Its nowhere near at the level of TWS. Its more an Avengers 2.5 than a Cap movie. Its fun and entertaining but extremely shallow.

The biggest problem is the film had no teeth. Nobody died, nobody got truly affected by the events of CW. So, The Avengers aren't sanctioned by the U.N. now. Honestly, who cares?

The movie should have changed the MCU forever. It didn't. All it did was introduce two new heroes.

The film opens with The Avengers performing unsanctioned work and ends with The Avengers continuing that unsanctioned work.

With BvS the world lost Superman, the JLA began to form and Batman regained his moral code.

I'll take those two dark and depressing funerals over that ******** apology letter and pointless mid-credits "resolution" for Bucky.

-Captain America is a fugitive, alongside the majority of the Avengers.
-The surviving Avengers are just Tony and Vision, considering Rhodey is out of comission.
-Wakanda has given asylum to US criminals, which i imagine won't go well with the US.
-The King of the most powerful nation on Earth was assassinated, and now Wakanda has a new King.
-Black Widow has dissappeared.
-Stark is now utterly alone and possibly a lap-dog for Ross.
-Zem's plan is not yet complete.
-All the while, Thanos is preparing to invade Earth.

I dunno, to me that seemed like a lot of things changed. Not every movie needs a death to shake up the status quo. And besides, what did BvS change? Superman died and essentially got resurected 10 minutes later. The public loves him now and Batman found a new buddy? Whoopity-****ing-do. In Civil War whole countries have been shaken up.

Either way, I won't let you drag me into this like last time. You have your opinion, I and many others have another. For me, Civil War is the superior film and the majority agrees, be it RT, Metacritic, IMDB, Flickr, Comic Book Forums, whatever. Both the critics and the audiences agree that CW is the better of two. Don't like it? Fine, it's cool. but to say that CW changed absolutely nothing is ridiculous...

 

[SNIKT1950]

Cause a funeral which brings back characters is teeth....too each their own.

Dude, they couldn't even kill off Rhodey. They couldn't even paralyze him. For ****'s sake, BP forgave Zemo. They couldn't even leave the Avengers who were locked up locked up.

By the time these people see each other again they'll be high-fiving and acting as if nothing ever happened.

I had fun watching this but once I processed it all, I saw just how inconsequential it really is.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Eh, Cap is near perfect. Hulk if let loose I imagine would be much more lethal. Spidey looked great. T'Challa was a damn beast. Thor is really underpowered though, I will agree on that part.

Not just Thor, Ultron too, and Gemora, Drax, Ronan, Iron Man, and War Machine too. They're way more powerful in the comics....Hulk too. MCU Hulk is strong...but not comic strong, not when he can lose his teeth by getting hit by Iron Man.

 

[YoNoSe]

Will they yell "Martha!" while they hi-five as if nothing happened?

 

[GasparZizou]

what did BvS change? Superman died and essentially got resurected 10 minutes later. The public loves him now and Batman found a new buddy? Whoopity-****ing-do. In Civil War whole countries have been shaken up.

I agree with your CW summary, but I can make a list for BvS too. Countries were also shaken up by Superman just stepping in and other stuff.

Dude, they couldn't even kill off Rhodey. They couldn't even paralyze him. For ****'s sake, BP forgave Zemo. They couldn't even leave the Avengers who were locked up locked up.

By the time these people see each other again they'll be high-fiving and acting as if nothing ever happened.

I had fun watching this but once I processed it all, I saw just how inconsequential it really is.

C'mon man, BP is not forgiving Zemo, he made him face Justice, that's worse than death, he has to stay alive with his demons. Rhodey being paralyzed in the MCU makes no sense considering the tech that exists. And like Darthkostis says, Avengers are now fugitive, it's worse than being locked up.

I know BvS has received retarded "criticism" but not because of that does CW deserves the same treatment.

Yeah most other Marvel movies are toothless, but this one is shakes the status quo pretty good, there doesn't need to be any deaths.

Will they yell "Martha!" while they hi-five as if nothing happened?

He killed my mommy ;_;