Either way two people from the school athletic dept were killed in a plane crash the day before. You don't think none of the players knew these coaches?
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They still have more right to that position then Alabama.
So if Alabama wins over LSU should there be a third game to determine the NC? Only seems fair to LSU
drbrad1975
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No, I don't think it had a profound if any impact on how the game was played. If it were one of the coaches or players on the team, yes I would agree with you.
drbrad1975
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OSU has more of right? Seriously...I honestly hope they do get their shot so everyone will have their blowout and LSU will be crowned national champions and the BCS will be exonerated for one more year. The only team that has a shot to beat LSU is Alabama. OSU may be the third best team in the country, that I do not doubt, but there is a large drop-off from #1 and #2 to #3. Either Alabama or LSU will wipe the floor with OSU in my opinion.
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OSU should never have rescheduled the game for Friday night. They have done horrible in the past on the road in week games.
As for the plane crash, I'm sure it had some impact on them, but I don't think it played into Weeden throwing 3 picks or Randle coughing it up twice. All 5 of their TO were on drives that would have ended in points.
It is incredibly hard to go undefeated. They should have played to the best of their ability with so much on the line.
As for the plane crash, I'm sure it had some impact on them, but I don't think it played into Weeden throwing 3 picks or Randle coughing it up twice. All 5 of their TO were on drives that would have ended in points.
It is incredibly hard to go undefeated. They should have played to the best of their ability with so much on the line.
I think there may be some merit there, but extenuating circumstances can affect any team, and I don't think they should factor into judgments of how games are played and how good teams are as it concerns ranking. I'm sure it was difficult for some players at Oklahoma State to play their best football after that incident, but the game should speak for itself IMO.
To EF's post, personally, even though it seems to benefit LSU this year, I don't think a team should have to go undefeated or close to undefeated to be in contention for a national championship. Teams should be allowed one slip up or two in the course of the season, and still be given a chance to prove themselves at the end. It pro football, a team can have ups and downs, but how they play at the end of the season, when it counts, against other good teams determines who the champion is. That makes a lot more sense to me than the BCS system. And I admit that this seems a bit self-serving, because there is often real parity in the SEC, and it would seem shameful for no SEC team to have a shot because they got beat up so bad through the season and lost only to other seriously talented teams. But I just think it would be more fair and less arbitrary.
BCS system is setting itself up for a Boisie State vs. Houston type national title game one of these days. And love mid-majors or hate them, that's just not gonna be a legit champion in the minds of many considering who they have to prove themselves against in the regular season. If they get there via tournament, then there would be few to complain. But that's all wishful thinking. I personally think it still works out correctly in the wash this year because I think the SEC's best is the best, as they've shown over the last few years. But I know others disagree. And in truth, the system won't always allow for the best to have a shot, so there will always be naysayers as long as the system doesn't allow for a different type of test to determine champion.
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This will NEVER happen. Just look at this year: how many 1-loss teams are ahead of undefeated Houston this year.
Well, that was a bit of hyperbole. In my mind, you could substitute, say, Oklahoma State and Ohio State, but. . . 
and if Houston proved itself consistently for a few years, and beat a good team or two in bowls, who is to say they couldn't eventually reach Boisie status? I don't think they will specifically since their QB is leaving, but I can see it happening with Boisie and a similar type of team. And they might be the best! But they just can't prove it to me and others without playing more serious competition throughout the year.
and if Houston proved itself consistently for a few years, and beat a good team or two in bowls, who is to say they couldn't eventually reach Boisie status? I don't think they will specifically since their QB is leaving, but I can see it happening with Boisie and a similar type of team. And they might be the best! But they just can't prove it to me and others without playing more serious competition throughout the year.
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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That's precisely why there will be a playoff eventually. There's too much money to be had. All these conferences care about are their bottom lines stuffed with dollar bills. The perfect example are all these teams jumping to different conferences.
Look, if there were to be a playoff system, some speculate college football could be on par or bigger than the NFL when it comes to TV money and popularity. All states in the US have Division I Football but not all have the NFL.
I'm not joking about the above statement either. The college game is religion in some parts of this country already.
They said the same thing about Boise State 5 years ago.
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Follow my full conversation so you don't take one comment out of context.
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Did Houston even play a ranked team? At least Boise beat Georgia at Georgia.
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By the way, I find something wrong about LSU having to win one more game this week to guarantee their trip for the MNC while Alabama is kicking back basically knowing they're already playing in it.
*shakes head*
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LSU doesn't have to win...they're in. But it is wrong that Alabama loses and basically gets a "bye".
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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On a side note, the worst kept secret is now confirmed.....
Urban Meyer is now coach of Ohio State. A seven-year, $40 million contract.
This is bad news for the rest of the Big Ten.
https://espn.go.com/college-footbal...tate-buckeyes-coach-1-year-hiatus-sources-say
Urban Meyer is now coach of Ohio State. A seven-year, $40 million contract.
This is bad news for the rest of the Big Ten.
https://espn.go.com/college-footbal...tate-buckeyes-coach-1-year-hiatus-sources-say
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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Is that a 100% lock? Has that been reported anywhere?
I dont think its 100% lock. If they get destroyed they are not going to stay #1.
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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Yeah, I was thinking that too. My only scenario is if LSU gets crushed by Georgia and OSU crushes Oklahoma.
Who am I kidding, that's not going to happen (the first part).
I don't think they did. And yet they are ranked 6th. If they had beaten 1 or 2 top 20 ranked teams, I could easily see them 3rd or 4th. At which point, one more screw up than we've already seen, and they could be playing in the championship game. Of course, Houston doesn't have a real incentive to schedule serious competition right now, because their chances of beating a serious football team are so low, and such a game is much more likely to hurt than help. But if they were to show themselves to be solid competitors for a few years, playing above the level of their conference peers, then they may start trying to schedule those games. . .
If there were such a chance (I don't think there is, if I understand things correctly, though I guess a major blowout loss could change things), then I would agree. For Alabama to be rewarded for having lost to LSU earlier in the year (and thus, being ineligible to play in the SEC championship game) would be a complete farce. But, would fit in with the general screwiness of the BCS.
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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The only big name program Houston played was against UCLA and they suck despite playing in the Pac-12 title game.
I see that UCLA just got crushed 50-0 by USC. It's hard to believe that UCLA (6-6, 5-4 Pac-12) gets to play Oregon for the Pac-12 title.
Yeah, I know USC is on sanctions and can't play but still...
EDIT: UCLA fired coach Rick Neuheisel but will be allowed to coach the final game.
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