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I just heard on Espn radio that there is speculation if LSU loses to Georgia and OSU beats Oklahoma, it will still be LSU vs. Alabama for the MNC. :slap :mad:
 
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Mmkay, so Oklahoma State loses to unranked nobody Iowa State and drops from 2 to 4. Arkansas loses to first ranked LSU, and drops from 3 to 8. Makes sense.
 
Mmkay, so Oklahoma State loses to unranked nobody Iowa State and drops from 2 to 4. Arkansas loses to first ranked LSU, and drops from 3 to 8. Makes sense.

One loses in overtime to get one loss, the other gets blown out to get 2 loses.
 
Yeah, but. . .the 2 blowout losses were to number 1 and 2, not some scrub team with nearly a .500 record. Having said that, if the BCS had decided that Arkansas should never had been ranked 3rd to begin with, then I wouldn't have argued. But to say they still deserved that despite the earlier loss to Alabama, then get bumped down 5 spots after losing to number 1 similarly to how they lost to number 2 earlier, is ridiculous. #3 presumably (i.e., according to BSC logic), is the 3rd best team in the country, irrespective of whether they had lost previously or not. And this wasn't a scenario where they never had to play against serious competition up to this point like, say, a Houston.

BCS just gets so arbitrary.
 
I would agree with that. OSU doesn't deserve to be there. That loss to Iowa state sunk that ship. Still hoping that Georgia pulls the major upset!!!
OSU deserves the game more then Alabama. Alabama had its chance to beat LSU AT HOME. At least OSU won it conference, Alabama couldn't even make its conference championship.
 
OSU deserves the game more then Alabama. Alabama had its chance to beat LSU AT HOME. At least OSU won it conference, Alabama couldn't even make its conference championship.

Again I see your point but Alabama lost to LSU who was number 1 in a very close game and probably should have won if not for a bad kicking game. OSU lost to an unranked nobody. No way they deserve a shot and both Alabama or LSU would kill them if given the chance. If OSU does get its chance, all everyone will see is another butt wooping by a SEC team just like all the other recent national title games.
 
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Again I see your point but Alabama lost to LSU who was number 1 in a very close game and probably should have won if not for a bad kicking game. OSU lost to an unranked nobody. No way they deserve a shot and both Alabama or LSU would kill them if given the chance. If OSU does get its chance, all everyone will see is another butt wooping by a SEC team just like the other recent national title games.
OSU lost to an unranked team the day after they had a HUGE tragedy, and really they shouldnt even played the game that day. You cant use that as an excuse but really you can't deny that didnt have a effect on the team.

If there were no other 1 loss teams who win there conference I would be 100% ok with a rematch, but when there are other teams who deserve the chance then a non conference winner.
 
Mmkay, so Oklahoma State loses to unranked nobody Iowa State and drops from 2 to 4. Arkansas loses to first ranked LSU, and drops from 3 to 8. Makes sense.

Didn't a bunch of one loss teams lose that weekend as well?

Anyway, go Pokes. Still a chance!!!!

Alabama shouldn't even get a shot since they ain't winning their conference and already lost to the team they might be playing.
 
OSU lost to an unranked team the day after they had a HUGE tragedy, and really they shouldnt even played the game that day. You cant use that as an excuse but really you can't deny that didnt have a effect on the team.

If there were no other 1 loss teams who win there conference I would be 100% ok with a rematch, but when there are other teams who deserve the chance then a non conference winner.

Wasn't that woman's coach or something? I vaguely remember but I thought that was a school tragedy. But regardless, that's an excuse. I honestly hope OSU plays LSU so that we can another high scoring LSU dominating win over a vastly weaker opponent. I thought having a national title game was between the two best teams and that honestly is between LSU and Al. But I am all for one more laughable national title game with another SEC dominating performance. Hopefully you will get your boring game.
 
The championship game is between who should be playing for it, not who the best teams are.

Playoff is the only way to decide the best team.

And IMHO a playoff would include the top 4 teams in the BSC.
 
The championship game is between who should be playing for it, not who the best teams are.

Playoff is the only way to decide the best team.

And IMHO a playoff would include the top 4 teams in the BSC.

See I disagree. The two teams who should be playing for are the two best teams regardless of conference. A playoff would be nice and the best solution but when looking at the current situation, OSU does not belong. What happens if OK beats OSU? VT?
 
I really really really don't wanna see LSU play Alabama again, because I'm an LSU guy and think Alabama's probably gonna win this time. But if we're gonna try to match up the two teams that seem to be the best in college right now, that's the best matchup out there. Unfortunately, the BCS is what it is, and Alabama did what it had to do to get ranked this highly at this point in the year, and Oklahoma State didn't. Of course, even in a playoff system the championship game may not end up being between the two best teams (they may play earlier in the tournament, or one team might have a fluke loss-stuff that you just can't avoid no matter what system you set up). But I think a playoff is the best system for determining who really should be considered the champion.

we may get a playoff after this rematch......thank god that will be the only good come out of it..
Like others are saying, I don't think it will make any difference because the BCS schools are making so much money hand over fist with the system as is. BCS is screwy every year in one way or another, but none of the foolishness we see through the year in terms of rankings is gonna trump the almighty $$$. That matters more than letting teams put it on the line at the end of the year to see, at that point in time, who is truly the best team when matched up against other great teams. Way too much subjectivity, bias, and uncertainty in the system now, and the only way to cut through that is to have teams prove it on the field.
 
I really really really don't wanna see LSU play Alabama again, because I'm an LSU guy and think Alabama's probably gonna win this time. But if we're gonna try to match up the two teams that seem to be the best in college right now, that's the best matchup out there. Unfortunately, the BCS is what it is, and Alabama did what it had to do to get ranked this highly at this point in the year, and Oklahoma State didn't. Of course, even in a playoff system the championship game may not end up being between the two best teams (they may play earlier in the tournament, or one team might have a fluke loss-stuff that you just can't avoid no matter what system you set up). But I think a playoff is the best system for determining who really should be considered the champion.


Like others are saying, I don't think it will make any difference because the BCS schools are making so much money hand over fist with the system as is. BCS is screwy every year in one way or another, but none of the foolishness we see through the year in terms of rankings is gonna trump the almighty $$$. That matters more than letting teams put it on the line at the end of the year to see, at that point in time, who is truly the best team when matched up against other great teams. Way too much subjectivity, bias, and uncertainty in the system now, and the only way to cut through that is to have teams prove it on the field.

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