CW series The Flash

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

So once RF disappears, what happens in the present? Barry's mom can't just appear out nowhere in the present after being dead for 15-20 years, right?

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

Here's the thing, if RF is erased, that means Flash would be erased. My thought is that Eobard isn't gone. At one point or another he will exist, he has been in the Speed Force, my guess is that he might be in like a Purgatory.


Hell, maybe Eddie donated, and some crazed woman who had a thing for fallen cops has his kids?

 

[Mister Ski]

This is why I hate story lines about time travel. Too many paradoxes.

 

[GasparZizou]

I finally finished S1 and this is me right now...

This could easily set up for a complete DC TV universe, no problem.

I was ready to give the win to DD as better superhero show but nah, this is just as good as that, it's a tie.

Here's the thing, if RF is erased, that means Flash would be erased. My thought is that Eobard isn't gone. At one point or another he will exist, he has been in the Speed Force, my guess is that he might be in like a Purgatory.


Hell, maybe Eddie donated, and some crazed woman who had a thing for fallen cops has his kids?

This is why I hate story lines about time travel. Too many paradoxes.

Here's the thing, with time travel, there are paradoxes and there are different timelines, you know what paradoxes are, now, when something's changed doesn't necessarily mean that timeline ceased to exist, it can mean a new timeline was created.

RF could have easily still survived after Eddy shot himself, because RF could've been born in a timeline where Eddy didn't kill himself, so Eddy killing himself wouldn't affect him, this was obviously not the case.

Point is, the fact that RF doesn't exist doesn't necessarily mean Flash can't exist, timelines are infinite, besides we perceive time in only one way.

I love time travel

Minkowski geometry yo!

 

[nexus]

IMO The Flash is the best comic adaptation ever done for television. I never watched Smallville, but I do watch Arrow. This was a very well done 1st season. Temporal paradoxes/parallel universes could end up being very cool or could lead to the show prematurely jumping the shark. We'll have to see where the writing leads.

It's also very cool that DC is developing their TV universe. I didn't watch season 1 of the Arrow, but seasons 2&3 have been pretty good, although Red Arrow(Speedy) and Black Canary are pretty unconvincing as vigilante heroines figuring that each has only had about 6 months of training. Between Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl CW/CBS might be putting together a kind of B-league TV Justice League. There's been a rumor circulating that Diggle could end up being John Stewart Green Lantern, which could be cool. Atom and Hawkgirl are in the new Legends spinoff series. And if Supergirl does well, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Nightwing series being pitched for 2016 or 2017.

 

[dw316]

I finally finished S1 and this is me right now...

^^

This could easily set up for a complete DC TV universe, no problem.

I was ready to give the win to DD as better superhero show but nah, this is just as good as that, it's a tie.




Here's the thing, with time travel, there are paradoxes and there are different timelines, you know what paradoxes are, now, when something's changed doesn't necessarily mean that timeline ceased to exist, it can mean a new timeline was created.

RF could have easily still survived after Eddy shot himself, because RF could've been born in a timeline where Eddy didn't kill himself, so Eddy killing himself wouldn't affect him, this was obviously not the case.

Point is, the fact that RF doesn't exist doesn't necessarily mean Flash can't exist, timelines are infinite, besides we perceive time in only one way.

I love time travel

Minkowski geometry yo!

^^ These guys approve

 

[GasparZizou]

^^ These guys approve

Oh, and dat GL easter

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

@ Nexus: They are making the Teen Titans show and Nightwing is confirmed. Just saying it will be sooner than later!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

@ Nexus: They are making the Teen Titans show and Nightwing is confirmed. Just saying it will be sooner than later!

When I heard the new of a Teen Titans show being developed on TNT I was all

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

When I heard the new of a Teen Titans show being developed on TNT I was all

 

[Niltusk]

Flash season 1 has to be the slickest comic year ever. The build up to... and the finale were just crazy. Barry standing at the wall while his mother died was just gut wrenching, but him coming back out of that vortex and the Zoom oh **** look...priceless. And he knew, in that instant as his dreams of getting back to the future were shattered, Barry had become the man he hated. ****ing awesome season beginning to end. I'd love a pruned version of the season which could be watched like a long Extended version of a movie, it would be an epic watch.

 

[azurepred]

well maybe Eddie getting sucked into the black hole will transport him to some dimension where he can be saved. Nobody knows what really happens in a black hole, so you never know. It is all very confusing to try and think about. How could his future self know that his younger self would try to come back and save his mom? And why didn't he just let RF leave to the future?

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

I like the idea that I read on CBM that what if they made the 90's Flash an alternate timeline. That would be pretty ****ing cool!

 

[GasparZizou]

well maybe Eddie getting sucked into the black hole will transport him to some dimension where he can be saved. Nobody knows what really happens in a black hole, so you never know. It is all very confusing to try and think about. How could his future self know that his younger self would try to come back and save his mom? And why didn't he just let RF leave to the future?

What if he comes back as...

Spoiler

BLACK FLASH

 

[azurepred]

I like the idea that I read on CBM that what if they made the 90's Flash an alternate timeline. That would be pretty ****ing cool!

Being born 86, I barely even remember that show.

What if he comes back as...

Spoiler

BLACK FLASH

no idea who that even is, enlighten me....

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

September 22 blu ray release!

 

[batfan08]

Being born 86, I barely even remember that show.



no idea who that even is, enlighten me....

He's talking about the time when Michael B. Jordan played The Flash.

 

[batfan08]

I'm so excited to see the Trickster episode, but all of these cameos have me thinking about how awesome it would be if they did a revival of the '90s TV show in the vein of " The Flash of Two Worlds," and/or "Flashpoint." Could you imagine Gustin's Barry confusing Shipp's Barry for Henry, seeing Tina McGee and Julio and wondering how different circumstances brought these strangers from his world together (that would require them to get Julio back), or, perhaps, if they could get Hamill back again, you could even have the two Flashes bonding over the weirdness of the same guy being the same Trickster in two different universes. I'm going to be disappointed, if that doesn't happen, as I would love to see that Stan Winston suit one last time.

That preview was amazing, and aaaaahh! So much '90s Flash goodness! I just...I should be appreciative of the fact that they're doing all that, but now I can't get how awesome a "Flash of Two Worlds" crossover would be. Just imagine it:

"Your name is Henry Allen, and I'm your son, Barry."

"Henry Allen was my father, and, unless I'm missing something, you're not Barry Allen."

"Why?"

"Because that's my name."

Dr. Tina McGee-Allen! More Julio! More Stan Winston-designed muscular goodness (or something different that evokes the same feeling)! I mean, it'd be, at least, somewhat easy to do, since they've already established that versions of these people exist in the new Flash Universe, so just say that they followed different paths in this alternate universe. Instead of making Shipp Garrick, just have him reprise his role as the Barry Allen Flash of the '90s.

Of course, this is pretty much just fan fiction in my mind, since they'd never alienate a large segment of their audience by setting an episode within the universe of a 25-year old TV series that only lasted a season...or would they? Nah, I think the homages are the best we'll get, which are still amazing, but a guy can dream, right?

It makes me a little sad that so many people are saying "Joker." You're missing out on one of the most well hidden gems of the '90s, if you've never seen Shipp's Flash. This was just such an amazing episode. So much of that retro goodness, from Hamill, Shipp, and all of the Trickster references to one half of Murphy and Bellows being the Mayor of Central City. I really, really hope they have the balls to just go all the way and give us a revival of the classic TV series/epilogue. Just for the interactions between Shipp and Gustin alone. I mean, the blueprint is right in the books, with "The Flash of Two Worlds," but, rather than Jay Garrick, they can give us the OG Barry Allen, one last time.

Also, my guess is that, judging by tonight's events, if Barry succeeds in altering the timeline that, maybe, we get good Dr. Wells, and, perhaps, his wife, on Team Flash next season? Cavanaugh's too awesome not to be a regular, so, I'm really hoping that the whole Face/Off scenario tonight is planting the seeds of his salvation.

That's yet another reason I'd love to see a crossover. How awesome would it be to see the two Barrys talk about how weird it is that the same dude became the same Trickster in two parallel universes over coffee?

I adored seeing Barry's "history." Ideally, I'd love for them to apply that same concept to the Multiverse. It'd be so cool to see flashes of West Batman, Reeve Superman, and all of the other DC media from the past 75 years in one of those "time tunnels;" Shipp Flash included. As far as the '90s show goes, I desperately want to see Shipp reprise the role. I'd love it if that was one of the alternate universes Barry visited; the continuity of the '90s Flash show.

There's just so much cool stuff. That Jay Garrick helmet; I'm dying to see who plays him. Honestly, I'd like to see, maybe, Bruce Greenwood. I don't see how the timeline can't rewrite itself, though. No Wells means no murder, and so on, and so forth.

I like the idea that I read on CBM that what if they made the 90's Flash an alternate timeline. That would be pretty ****ing cool!

It's about damn time these nerds recognized my genius.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

It's about damn time these nerds recognized my genius.

You most definitely were the most committed.

 

[GasparZizou]

In my mind, all DC properties and continuities have always existed together in different realities, and in the comics Convergence made that official a while ago, so it's really nothing new for me, it also expands on the idea that the TV universe is just another Universe and can coexist with the movies, which is perfect.

I doubt 90's Flash makes it into the show though, plus the costume must be rotten by now.