David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I did! :) Thank you for letting me know though! I really liked it! It's not that I don't want to read the comics, I just don't have the time or money to read everything! There's so many awesome comics I want to read!

Oh my bad, I didn't read that. Yeah pretty much the only movie along Gods and Monsters I like of DC animation lately.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Looks like the same AKMS from "End of Watch".
Or "Liberace's AK" according to David Ayer. :lol

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OMG, it is the same prop...that's crazy :lol Studios and directors do that a lot with film props. The Terminator 2 minigun is the same one Jesse Ventura used in Predator. But that's cool of Ayer to use that gun again :yess: Ayer wanted Gyllenhaal in this film too, but I guess he told Ayer he wasn't a prop :lol
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Still not sold on this movie but that second trailer is a massive improvement over the first.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I like both the trailers but i think the first one was better.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I actually went in thinking I wouldn't like it because it seemed so dark too me. I love villains, but I'm not the most comfortable with bad guys as protagonists (it's why I can't enjoy films like the Goodfellas). When the film first started, I was pretty uncomfortable, but I decided to push through to see Batman, and I'm glad I did. I ended up liking every member of the Suicide Squad (except those few seconds of Arkham Bane—why Rocksteady, why? :lol)!

I'd second your recommendation! I think this film will be much better though! What were your thoughts on Joker? I love him!

Same here, I didn't expect it be good, just something to expand the Arkham universe, but it blew me away.

This Joker I'm not sure about actually, I haven't seen enough of him. I know I'm in the minority, but Leto isn't really a great actor to me. He's not bad, but I just don't think he's as great an actor as the last two guys that played Joker.

I like the concept of this new Joker so far, and how different he looks compared to every other Joker to date, but just based on what little I saw, Leto seems to be coming off more psychotic and less comedic. Nicholson and Heath's Joker were definitely crazy, but they drowned out a lot of their actions with Jokes, which made them so likable to me, where as with Leto's Joker just seems like a teenager on steroids, and I don't know if he has the chops to do all these horrible things while still being likable. Hopefully I'm wrong though, and even if I'm not, that Joker might fit better into this DC universe so I still might enjoy it, but as of right now, I'm just too excited to see Killer Croc, Harley, Captain Boomerang and Deadshot interacting with each other.


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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Why do I get the feeling Harley is gonna turn good at the end of this movie in the new comics she's more hero now.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Why do I get the feeling Harley is gonna turn good at the end of this movie in the new comics she's more hero now.

not a bad thing

(How much you wanna bet that there is some after credits scene where she either returns the purse or pays for it)
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Here's something interesting.

The prison guard behind Deadshot is played Ike Barinholtz

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And he's also working as a Joker henchman later in the trailer...so does the Joker have a guy working in the prison? Is the scene with the joker a flashback and in the present he's working for Amanda Waller as a prison guard?

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Nice catch.

Rewatched the trailer, I liked it this time, music and all. I hope the movie is better than GotG, that one couldn't survive past the 1st viewing.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Who are the antagonists in this movie?

Joker is probably going to get in the squad's way, but the main antagonist seems to be the big threat that Waller assembled the squad for. The shots in the subway from the new trailer (below) might be showing the mystery villain, can't tell who it is though. Definitely doesn't look like Enchantress, that's for sure.

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Might be the Tattooed Man that Common is playing? I don't know I'm not too familiar with the character. Or it's Enchantress' brother.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Here's something interesting.

The prison guard behind Deadshot is played Ike Barinholtz

D9cNCzL.gif


And he's also working as a Joker henchman later in the trailer...so does the Joker have a guy working in the prison? Is the scene with the joker a flashback and in the present he's working for Amanda Waller as a prison guard?

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Sorry to say they're two different people, mate. Barinholtz is the guard, the guy with the Joker is Jim Parrack as (allegedly) Johnny Frost.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Oh my bad, I didn't read that. Yeah pretty much the only movie along Gods and Monsters I like of DC animation lately.

Oh my bad, I didn't read that. Yeah pretty much the only movie along Gods and Monsters I like of DC animation lately.

I couldn't get into that film, unfortunately. I got all excited at the return of Bruce Timm, but then I remembered...wait a sec, it's not like I loved the other movies. Actually, if I'm going to be honest, a lot of Batman the Animated Series wasn't good. For every "Two Face", there's a "Tyger, Tyger." It's a kids cartoon, an amazing one at that, but I started watching Mask of the Phantasm recently, and I thought about your comments about "that not being like the real Batman," and I was like your crazy, Gaspar. I didn't say that to you, but I was thinking it! But then I went back, and read my trades of 70s stories that BTAS adapted from, and even those were much more mature than their adaptations. Heck, Batman would knock guys into getting their faces burnt off with acid. And then, I started think about the Nolan movies, and I realized what I loved about them is how flawed and "relate-able" Batman Begins and The Dark Knight they made Bruce Wayne compared the comic book counter-part.

However, after getting the Marvel Unlimited subscriptions, I've been reading a ton of Marvel, and preferring some characters to certain Batman depictions that I loved. Daredevil, Captain America, and Spider-man being the main ones. But after reading from various superheroes, I realized I just love whatever I'm reading at the moment and I'm invested in the soap opera of their lives. Yet, whenever the writer changed, the character completely changed based on the writer. They didn't really have any defined traits that made them unique as Batman or even Superman.

In fact, its seems like everyone seems like derivations of those two characters. Even though Frank Miller's Daredevil is my favorite comic book run, all I could think was, without Frank, this guy is just a either watered down Batman (when he was written darker and getting constantly beaten down) or a watered down Superman (when he was going around fighting villains like Stilt Man or the Spot). When the writer changed for Captain America, and gave him a different voice, I'm like this is a watered down version of Superman and Batman. And when Spider-man got a new writer, I though the same of him. Heck, the X-Men getting hated for their mutations comes from Superman and Batman (Hatred for their powers and appearances). Regardless, of how bad Superman or Batman have been written, there's a reason why most fans cry foul at certain characteristics, because they have specific philosophies that make their characters unique. It's why fans got angry when Batman said "I'm not going kill you, but I don't have to save you" in Batman Begins. Batman will do whatever it takes to save any life, and if he can't, it's because he simply couldn't with all his might. That's the problem with Superman snapping Zod's neck in Man of Steel. If fans could think of a better way than Superman to avoid that situation that's a problem. The writer has to work extremely hard to make him smart as or smarter than us. Superman and Batman seek to accomplish the same goal with selflessness and compassion, but Superman prioritizes civilians— inspiring hope in them—in hopes of creating a better world whereas Batman prioritizes criminals—inspiring fear in them— in hopes of creating a better world. Once these men fully matured before donning their costumes, and once they became Superman and Batman, those costumes meant something. They don't need to change, the world changes around them, and what's interesting is that they refuse to budge from their morality and beliefs—no matter how terrible things get. They might question them and falter on the occasion, but they know what their costumes mean as icons. Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are not Batman and Superman in my opinion. They are capable of flaws, but Batman and Superman better than them, and they both know it, and it makes them super compelling. Batman and Superman have to be the best at what we do. Batman has to master ever physical goal that human ever dreamed of (even though it's inhumanely possible) because it gives us something to strive fore. Superman has powers that we dream of having—thinking that life would be so much better with them—but Superman uses all those gifts righteously (that too is inhumane because we can't help but sin.) And Goku is better than both of them because...he just makes me smile:lol. That's my take. Or at least that's my take at this exact time. Who knows, I'm young. Maybe, it'll change by tommorow! :lol I still haven't factored in Wonder Woman, but that's because I don't really know much about her outside of the cartoons and the tpb I read at my library.

The point is I now get where your coming from with "not the real Batman"! :lol
 
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