Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Oh my bad, I didn't read that. Yeah pretty much the only movie along Gods and Monsters I like of DC animation lately.
Oh my bad, I didn't read that. Yeah pretty much the only movie along Gods and Monsters I like of DC animation lately.
I couldn't get into that film, unfortunately. I got all excited at the return of Bruce Timm, but then I remembered...wait a sec, it's not like I loved the other movies. Actually, if I'm going to be honest, a lot of Batman the Animated Series wasn't good. For every "Two Face", there's a "Tyger, Tyger." It's a kids cartoon, an amazing one at that, but I started watching Mask of the Phantasm recently, and I thought about your comments about "that not being like the real Batman," and I was like your crazy, Gaspar. I didn't say that to you, but I was thinking it! But then I went back, and read my trades of 70s stories that BTAS adapted from, and even those were much more mature than their adaptations. Heck, Batman would knock guys into getting their faces burnt off with acid. And then, I started think about the Nolan movies, and I realized what I loved about them is how flawed and "relate-able"
Batman Begins and
The Dark Knight they made Bruce Wayne compared the comic book counter-part.
However, after getting the Marvel Unlimited subscriptions, I've been reading a ton of Marvel, and preferring some characters to certain Batman depictions that I loved. Daredevil, Captain America, and Spider-man being the main ones. But after reading from various superheroes, I realized I just love whatever I'm reading at the moment and I'm invested in the soap opera of their lives. Yet, whenever the writer changed, the character completely changed based on the writer. They didn't really have any defined traits that made them unique as Batman or even Superman.
In fact, its seems like everyone seems like derivations of those two characters. Even though Frank Miller's Daredevil is my favorite comic book run, all I could think was, without Frank, this guy is just a either watered down Batman (when he was written darker and getting constantly beaten down) or a watered down Superman (when he was going around fighting villains like Stilt Man or the Spot). When the writer changed for Captain America, and gave him a different voice, I'm like this is a watered down version of Superman and Batman. And when Spider-man got a new writer, I though the same of him. Heck, the X-Men getting hated for their mutations comes from Superman and Batman (Hatred for their powers and appearances). Regardless, of how bad Superman or Batman have been written, there's a reason why most fans cry foul at certain characteristics, because they have specific philosophies that make their characters unique. It's why fans got angry when Batman said "I'm not going kill you, but I don't have to save you" in Batman Begins. Batman will do whatever it takes to save any life, and if he can't, it's because he simply couldn't with all his might. That's the problem with Superman snapping Zod's neck in
Man of Steel. If fans could think of a better way than Superman to avoid that situation that's a problem. The writer has to work extremely hard to make him smart as or smarter than us. Superman and Batman seek to accomplish the same goal with selflessness and compassion, but Superman prioritizes civilians— inspiring hope in them—in hopes of creating a better world whereas Batman prioritizes criminals—inspiring fear in them— in hopes of creating a better world. Once these men fully matured before donning their costumes, and once they became Superman and Batman, those costumes meant something. They don't need to change, the world changes around them, and what's interesting is that they refuse to budge from their morality and beliefs—no matter how terrible things get. They might question them and falter on the occasion, but they know what their costumes mean as icons. Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are not Batman and Superman in my opinion. They are capable of flaws, but Batman and Superman better than them, and they both know it, and it makes them super compelling. Batman and Superman have to be the best at what we do. Batman has to master ever physical goal that human ever dreamed of (even though it's inhumanely possible) because it gives us something to strive fore. Superman has powers that we dream of having—thinking that life would be so much better with them—but Superman uses all those gifts righteously (that too is inhumane because we can't help but sin.) And Goku is better than both of them because...he just makes me smile
. That's my take. Or at least that's my take at this exact time. Who knows, I'm young. Maybe, it'll change by tommorow!
I still haven't factored in Wonder Woman, but that's because I don't really know much about her outside of the cartoons and the tpb I read at my library.
The point is I now get where your coming from with "not the real Batman"!