David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[Rainpaulo]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I think its fu*kin weird how the marvel fans cannot wait to get on to these threads and bash every film...maybe it's a jealous type thing because DC have the best comic characters. Sad.
By the way I like the films from both Marvel and Dc and own all on blu ray ....haven't seen SS yet but will. It's strange to me though how MOS,BVS and now SS squad keep getting these bad reviews and yet IM2, IM3,Thor TDW,AOU Keep scoring high reviews when in fact they are very average movies with poor villains.
Imagine how Marvel fans would react on here if DC done a Madarin/Trevor stunt...jeez.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

By the way I like the films from both Marvel and Dc and own all on blu ray ....

So do most of us I'm sure.

 

[Shawpaw]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I think its fu*kin weird how the marvel fans cannot wait to get on to these threads and bash every film...maybe it's a jealous type thing because DC have the best comic characters. Sad.
By the way I like the films from both Marvel and Dc and own all on blu ray ....haven't seen SS yet but will. It's strange to me though how MOS,BVS and now SS squad keep getting these bad reviews and yet IM2, IM3,Thor TDW,AOU Keep scoring high reviews when in fact they are very average movies with poor villains.
Imagine how Marvel fans would react on here if DC done a Madarin/Trevor stunt...jeez.

I think some of it is misplaced onto other posters. I mean the guys that helm DC movies are openly **** talking Marvel. Posters should direct that annoyance towards those guys, not other posters. Also, in all of the Marvel movies you mentioned, the reason why they get average scores is because there is a lot of development and groundwork completed for those movies. People are familiar and enjoy the characters in those movies. They don't always follow the movies for the villains. They primarily are attached to aspects of the major characters. Marvel has been patient and developed their roster. DC could have been great IMO but they put out movies with no prior development other than MOS (which was avg to begin with).

For the record, I though BvS wasn't near as bad as most were saying. I gave it a 6/10

 

[Hydeous]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

His introduction... Seriously...
Seeing it again in 2 hours.... Promised a girlfriend i would go with her... Urgh....

I just watched it again with the missus. Which reminds me,

Spoiler

I thought it was a cowardly move of batman, to confront deadshot why he's out shopping with his daughter. Couldn't he wait until he's done at the very least. Also, I can't stand joker's random antique and those noises he makes. Especially the smiling tattoo on the hand. I mean it looks good for a promotional pics and all like ledgers writing why so serious on the window. But it just doesn't work when he's doing that in the movie IMO

 

[Rainpaulo]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

So do most of us I'm sure.

Not meant in any other way but to show I'm not biased against either side.

 

[theuzi9mm]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I think its fu*kin weird how the marvel fans cannot wait to get on to these threads and bash every film...maybe it's a jealous type thing because DC have the best comic characters. Sad.
By the way I like the films from both Marvel and Dc and own all on blu ray ....haven't seen SS yet but will. It's strange to me though how MOS,BVS and now SS squad keep getting these bad reviews and yet IM2, IM3,Thor TDW,AOU Keep scoring high reviews when in fact they are very average movies with poor villains.
Imagine how Marvel fans would react on here if DC done a Madarin/Trevor stunt...jeez.

The age old question of 'Marvel or DC', I've mostly chose Marvel. BUT....I've liked Batman from DC, always have. Never been the biggest fan of Superman though or many other DC based characters.

BUT....while I'm not a die hard Marvel fan, I can tell you that I've started to lose interest in even the Marvel offerings. I didn't like Iron man 3, Age of Ultron, Thor Dark World and I was highly ambivalent on Civil War and Apocalypse, both of which I've still not seen. Oh and I never liked Capt. America either, although the movies were 'so-so'. Marvel is slipping imho (never saw the 'rebooted' Spider man's as they didn't need to be made since we just had 3 of them with Toby Maquire) Marvel over stepped with too much too soon, and DC is starting that slippery slope.

I saw Man of Steel and just didn't think it was all that great. It was more direction of the movie and overall presentation that I thought just moved slow. Same with BvS. Same director so that's what I chaulk it up to. With a different screenwriter and director, I'm sure they could have been decent. That said, I'm looking mildly forward to Wonder Woman, but the rest of the DC ones such as Flash, Aquaman, I don't have any interest in them, nor the Justice League movie.

It's obvious DC is trying to recreate the success Marvel has with Avengers, but even that series is starting to bore me. First Avengers was good, second was terrible, I almost turned it off. I am not going to run out to see Infinity wars either because this whole Thanos thing has taken so long to develop I just don't care anymore! Too many characters and story lines to keep straight.

I think they would have more success if they spaced them out more (DC and Marvel) vs. trying to crank out something every year to keep interest in them. I've got low expectations for SS, and have since the get go. I''ll go see it and I intend to just 'go' with it. I'll give pretty much most any 'comic' based movie a go, but I'm starting to become more selective because the industry has started to burn me out on them.

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Should just merge this thread with the BvS thread. Feels like deja-vu.

 

[Rainpaulo]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I think some of it is misplaced onto other posters. I mean the guys that helm DC movies are openly **** talking Marvel. Posters should direct that annoyance towards those guys, not other posters. Also, in all of the Marvel movies you mentioned, the reason why they get average scores is because there is a lot of development and groundwork completed for those movies. People are familiar and enjoy the characters in those movies. They don't always follow the movies for the villains. They primarily are attached to aspects of the major characters. Marvel has been patient and developed their roster. DC could have been great IMO but they put out movies with no prior development other than MOS (which was avg to begin with).

For the record, I though BvS wasn't near as bad as most were saying. I gave it a 6/10

If I had to put in order of greatness lol...from top to bottom movies from both companies it would be-

Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Civil War
MOS
Thor
Avenger
BVS
TIH. ....the one with Stark cameo
Ant man
GOTG
AOU
IM2
Thor 2
Im3
Captain America

Good time to like comic book movies

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Should we just copy n paste our posts from it?

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Should just merge this thread with the BvS thread. Feels like deja-vu.

Or maybe...

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Should we just copy n paste our posts from it?

Yes that way we get double posts.

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Or maybe...

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Marvel: astonishing ideas for characters that get maybe one truly outstanding run per decade.

DC: workmanlike character concepts that are consistently well-written over the course of many years.

At least that's my take on it. As I've gotten older I've drifted very far away from Marvel's output and into the waters of old, obscure DC runs and Eurocomics.

 

[theuzi9mm]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

If I had to put in order of greatness lol...from top to bottom movies from both companies it would be-

Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Civil War
MOS
Thor
Avenger
BVS
TIH. ....the one with Stark cameo
Ant man
GOTG
AOU
IM2
Thor 2
Im3
Captain America

Good time to like comic book movies

I forgot about the incredible hulk. With 3 of them made in the last 15 or so years, I only saw the one with Eric Bana and hated it. Did not see the others.

 

[Hydeous]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

yeah the truth, that's what I think with every comparison

Yeah, I think that's a good comparison.

Thanos as Joker.

 

[xipotec]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Why does it have to be a Marvel VS DC thing? Both properties have great charactersand decades of good stories to pull from. It painfully obvious the studio exec's in charge of the DC universe are missing the boat on what made these characters great.....its not a fan boy thing, its a marketing / demographics thing, and the DC's exec's are clearly making these movies for the wrong crowd. Stick to the source material, and it would win.

As far as RT goes, it usually does pan out to an acceptable aggregate review. Check past movies and you will see. Its a useful guide for many to see if they wanna shell out 80 bucks to goto a movie....although its pretty useless in the first week. Amazon/Netflix has a similar issue where all new content magically has 5 stars......until a few weeks alter when most of it has 3 or less stars.

RT will even out and the true suckiness level will show.

There are only a VERY small hand full of movie (IMO) that RT has still gotten wrong, or took an exceedingly long time to get right.

The last one I remember that stayed wrong for a LONG time was Fight Club (which was WAY ahead of its time, and still confuses the average movie goer..)

Some great movies can be found in the range of Critics (60-80) Fans (80-90).

 

[chewblacca]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I just saw Jeremy jahns review and he liked it a lot. I have not seen it yet but I definitely will. I'm a comic fan and any chance to see characters that I have only read about up on the big screen I'm all for!

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

The last one I remember that stayed wrong for a LONG time was Fight Club (which was WAY ahead of its time, and still confuses the average movie goer..)

Some great movies can be found in the range of Critics (60-80) Fans (80-90).

According to RT Fight Club is only a 6% better movie than Ghostbusters 2016. Based on that scale Fight Club should have a score of over 100%.

 

[theuzi9mm]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Why does it have to be a Marvel VS DC thing? Both properties have great charactersand decades of good stories to pull from. It painfully obvious the studio exec's in charge of the DC universe are missing the boat on what made these characters great.....its not a fan boy thing, its a marketing / demographics thing, and the DC's exec's are clearly making these movies for the wrong crowd. Stick to the source material, and it would win.

As far as RT goes, it usually does pan out to an acceptable aggregate review. Check past movies and you will see. Its a useful guide for many to see if they wanna shell out 80 bucks to goto a movie....although its pretty useless in the first week. Amazon/Netflix has a similar issue where all new content magically has 5 stars......until a few weeks alter when most of it has 3 or less stars.

RT will even out and the true suckiness level will show.

There are only a VERY small hand full of movie (IMO) that RT has still gotten wrong, or took an exceedingly long time to get right.

The last one I remember that stayed wrong for a LONG time was Fight Club (which was WAY ahead of its time, and still confuses the average movie goer..)

Some great movies can be found in the range of Critics (60-80) Fans (80-90).

It's marvel vs. DC because it's studios out to one up themselves over the other. It's the fans of both who will suffer when all they're out for is $$$$. I don't deride the DC movies I've seen because I mildly prefer marvel, as I've said there have been marvel based ones which have left me feeling disappointed as well. On a whole DC has missed the mark more than marvel, for whatever reason. But not to worry Marvel is starting to slump as well.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I agree Marvel is definately starting to slump, TWS and CW were horrible movies and the Cap trilogy is one of the worst trilogies out there.