David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Maybe the eye holes on the cowl were too small.

 

[crows]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Well it could be if it wasn't for

jesus how annoying together like that

 

[crows]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

the film's novelisation, it's made a little clearer that a large amount of the munitions that Batman fired weren't aimed at the Joker at all, they were aimed at the floats and anything else that looked hinky. Only the bullets seem to have been targeted at him, and they were evidently evaded by his erratic dancing:

Bullets, lasers, and missiles screamed down on Broad Avenue, all taking out their assigned targets. Batman wanted to make sure the Joker didn’t have any more surprises hiding in any of his floats or other equipment. So the equipment had to be obliterated.


In the middle of all the destruction, he saw the Joker doing the waltz. Everything had missed him. So far.
All right! He was having fun now.


Things were exploding all over the place. There went a float, here a truck—oops! a building got it that time — bad shot.
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The 1988 version script simply hand-waves his survival as nothing short of miraculous

Batman OPENS UP with everything, and we see the GATLING, MISSILES and LASER EXPLODE INTO ACTION.
EXT. ANGLE ON JOKER - MOMENT LATER


A rocket, bullets, and the laser beam SMASH into the street, all around the Joker. He leaps, LAUGHING, into the air and, miraculously, avoids being hit.



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As an aside, it's worth noting that in the original (1986 version) script, the Joker was in a tank during this sequence.

EXT. BROAD AVENUE - ON BATWING


The black ultralight hurtles down Broad Avenue at full speed, on a suicide mission. MISSILES streak past on either side. MACHINE GUN FIRE peppers the dome of the cockpit. The REAR STABILIZER WING takes a direct hit... and BURSTS INTO FLAME!


The BATWING, trailing thick black smoke, bears down on the tank like a kamikaze plane. BOMB BAYS OPEN as BATMAN dumps the last of his high explosives DIRECTLY INTO THE PATH OF THE TANK. The BATWING takes a hard bounce off the top of the tank and CRASHES TO THE STREET.
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this, makes absolutely no sense when you look at this:

Maybe the eye holes on the cowl were too small.

not only was joker in his sights but when he shoots he hits no balloons or anything else but the pavement

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Her screams were sexy.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I'd gladly bleed once a month for Kim Basinger.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Is this a Batman bashing thread now?

seems like it

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

this, makes absolutely no sense when you look at this:




not only was joker in his sights but when he shoots he hits no balloons or anything else but the pavement

In 1989 we just rolled with it.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

in 1989 you didn't have message boards dedicated to analyzing every frame of a movie either.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

In 1989 we just rolled with it.

Batman 89 is a very fond cinematic memory for me. I was a teenager and was visiting my grandparents that summer and went and caught the movie with my grandfather who was in his 60's at the time (he has since passed.) He had actually read the original Bob Kane comics as a kid and it was so cool to be there with him because at the time that was basically his "Winter Soldier" Batman except that he had waited freaking 60 *years* to see a serious and badass Caped Crusader on the big screen.

It was also the first time I remember people in the audience wearing apparel with the logos of what we were watching on screen.

 

[SuperJ300]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I missed you!!!


I'm going in!

Viewing number 3!

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

in 1989 you didn't have message boards dedicated to analyzing every frame of a movie either.

Good, because every movie we like now would have been destroyed by the internet.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

in 1989 you didn't have message boards dedicated to analyzing every frame of a movie either.

Yeah, besides it was just a stupid joke. There's no need to over analyze why Batman missed hitting the joker. It's like nowadays everything has to make perfect sense, even the jokes

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

in 1989 you didn't have message boards dedicated to analyzing every frame of a movie either.

Are you serious?

There were all kinds of newsgroups and bulletin boards where people were taking about movies, comics, toys, games, cars you name it. The internet is old. Back in the day we fired up the commodore 64 and talked bout the same stuff. Frame by frame Star Wars dissection was in full swing. Just without the wonderful gifs and completely uncensored.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

The entire Batwing sequence was a triumph of production design, miniatures, music, editing, etc., from the moment it first appears until the crash. Batman was so cool under pressure, the Joker was confident and sinister as people were running screaming around him. It has always been my favorite part of the movie and might be my favorite moment from any Batfilm, including the BvS warehouse scene.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

The entire Batwing sequence was a triumph of production design, miniatures, music, editing, etc., from the moment it first appears until the crash. Batman was so cool under pressure, the Joker was confident and sinister as people were running screaming around him. It has always been my favorite part of the movie and might be my favorite moment from any Batfilm, including the BvS warehouse scene.

It's such a good scene TDK did again...sort of

I find it interesting how Jack Joker was so fearless in that scene, yet when he falls of the building he was screaming, and not laughing. You'd think he'd see the humor in that situation with the Gargoyle taking him down

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's such a good scene TDK did again...sort of

If TDK had orchestrated the one-two punch of the Batpod sequence with the interrogation scene as part of the finale (maybe reverse the order so the film ends with the truck chase) then TDK might have been a film that could never be touched. But having those two moments closer to the middle with a meandering and mediocre finale really hurt it IMO.

Reminds me a little of Clear and Present Danger where you had this awesome and thrilling RPG/Chevy Suburban sequence and then a weak finale. You never want your movie to peak too soon.

 

[crows]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's such a good scene TDK did again...sort of

I find it interesting how Jack Joker was so fearless in that scene, yet when he falls of the building he was screaming, and not laughing. You'd think he'd see the humor in that situation with the Gargoyle taking him down

burton is a hack

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

If TDK had orchestrated the one-two punch of the Batpod sequence with the interrogation scene as part of the finale (maybe reverse the order so the film ends with the truck chase) then TDK might have been a film that could never be touched. But having those two moments closer to the middle with a meandering and mediocre finale really hurt it IMO.

Reminds me a little of Clear and Present Danger where you had this awesome and thrilling RPG/Chevy Suburban sequence and then a weak finale. You never want your movie to peak too soon.

I have to disagree on that one. The Joker laughing as he falls to his death after he said in a previous scene "in their last moments people show you who they really are" and then his final speech to Batman, it was perfect, imo.

The Harvey Dent stuff afterwards, meh. But that final speech from Gordon was pure gold.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I have to disagree on that one. The Joker laughing as he falls to his death after he said in a previous scene how "in their last moments people show you who they really are" and then his final speech to Batman, it was perfect, imo.

That wasn't the end of the movie though. We still had a 10 minute Two-Face scene after that which was then followed by a 14 minute Gordon speech.

And two ferries full of people who "learn the value of human life" didn't make for a very epic climax either.

 

[pturtle]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I thought the TDK ending was perfect, even the Harvey stuff, what was wrong with it?


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