DC Joker Movie (Non-DCEU)

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It's a depressing movie, and I have to be in the right frame of mind to venture back for another viewing.

I thought it wouldn't play a 2nd time because of that... but its actually more suspenseful now knowing what's coming. It plays like a horror movie.

I figured I'd speed through the boring parts but its so haunting that I got engaged and watched the whole damn thing again. I can't say its a brilliant movie but it is a mesmerizing take on an overly-familiar character with a brilliant performance.
 
I thought it wouldn't play a 2nd time because of that... but its actually more suspenseful now knowing what's coming. It plays like a horror movie.

I figured I'd speed through the boring parts but its so haunting that I got engaged and watched the whole damn thing again. I can't say its a brilliant movie but it is a mesmerizing take on an overly-familiar character with a brilliant performance.

I was going to watch it again yesterday, but ended up watching No Country For Old Men again, because of the announcement of the two new Anton figures. That's a bleak movie too, but a great one.

If Cormac McCarthy had written a Joker story, it would have been as fatalistic as Joker. Which might explain to me how Phoenix's Joker could eventually grow into the criminal mastermind we know from the comics.
 
Great film- DC has trumped just about every other Joker created in the last five decades...the question is will they screw it up and make him juat another DC villian or will they take another unexpected turn with him
 
TBH, I'm gonna side with Jye on this one. I won't deny it was a good film but it's not one I'll watch very much at all. I will most certainly view the likes of Endgame far more than I will see this in the long run. As such, to me, other movies have more value than Joker does.

Joker has that 'too close to home' vibe that isn't really comfortable viewing due to its lack of the fantastical. The difference between me and the anti-Joker SJWs - and I'm sure Jye would agree with this - is that they make the decision to associate it with 'bad white males' while I merely associate it 'bad person' - but IMO that's enough to make it once in a blue-moon viewing like the movie United 93. There's only so much reminder of how ****ed up real humanity can be that I actually want to see play out before my eyes.
 
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And he's a great actor. Poor chap was just saddled with a terrible movie and a ''must look hugely different just because'' Joker.

Not counting the poor hip-hop interpretation.

He either had a hand in making that version of the Joker, or he said yes to all those designs and story beats. Either way, he deserves the reception he gets for the role.
 
TBH, I'm gonna side with Jye on this one. I won't deny it was a good film but it's not one I'll watch very much at all. I will most certainly view the likes of Endgame far more than I will see this in the long run. As such, to me, other movies have more value than Joker does.

Joker has that 'too close to home' vibe that isn't really comfortable viewing due to its lack of the fantastical. The difference between me and the anti-Joker SJWs - and I'm sure Jye would agree with this - is that they make the decision to associate it with 'bad white males' while I merely associate it 'bad person' - but IMO that's enough to make it once in a blue-moon viewing like the movie United 93. There's only so much reminder of how ****ed up real humanity can be that I actually want to see play out before my eyes.

Every time I think I'm going to give Joker a second viewing, it seems I just can't bring myself to do it.

First it was No Country For Old Men that took precedence, then all of His Dark Materials. Today was all of The Mandalorian again. After that I was just about to put Joker in...and Zombieland: Double Tap jumped the queue.

I think Joker might be the equivalent of the Chernobyl series: you have to be in a very specific frame of mind.

I don't know whether the frame of mind required is akin to staring into the black pit of depression, or akin to the contented feeling of warm fuzziness that accompanies the arrival of a long awaited sixth scale figure.
 
They should have made the Joker the main villain in SS. Some weird ancient Egyptian God was....well weird. Joker would have been a lot of fun foiling the Squad. But agreed that the tats and grill were odd choices from the beginning. I would assume Leto knew the look Ayer was going for before he signed up.
 
To be honest I feel indifferent about this movie...it was just a movie. :huh

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Yeah seeing all those different takes and Phillips commentary on them just makes it all the more frustrating that Warner Bros. is sitting on a goldmine of BTS stuff of Ledger. Hell, and Nicholson too. So much of the Joker is improv, it would be so cool to see the alternate and deleted takes of the other performances.

Oh well.
 
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