DC Joker Movie (Non-DCEU)

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Ok who can pick out the ONE thing that proves the entire movie was a fantasy.

The one obvious yet cleverly overlooked thing.

Ok you give up here goes lol

1981 there was no way to film Joker?s comedy club performance unless it was 8mm camera forget 16mm no way.

Murray?s footage looked like VHS.


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The frist consumers Betamaxs were first available in the USA in 1975 and VHS in 1977, plus 3/4 decks had been around since 71. It would make sense that the comedy club would have some sort of setup. Remember Bob Crane use a Betamax for his little movies back in 1978.
 
The frist consumers Betamaxs were first available in the USA in 1975 and VHS in 1977, plus 3/4 decks had been around since 71. It would make sense that the comedy club would have some sort of setup. Remember Bob Crane use a Betamax for his little movies back in 1978.

Sure sure next you?re going to say that Sony had the first 4K tv in 1980.

I?m on to you.

Both eyes on you now lol


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You know how with Ledger Joker we never really knew which story was true on how he got his scars it?s like he told that story different to everyone.

This Joker movie carries that over but in a much much larger scale.

We never really know which scene is real or fantasy literally almost the entire movie is ambiguous and the puzzle pieces are left for us to put them together.


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A lot of things are ambiguous in the film. After Arthur goes to talk to Thomas Wayne and gets punched, Arthur leans over the bathroom sink in the theater, then the film cuts to Arthur leaning over the kitchen sink in his apartment shirtless. After that he goes into the fridge. So was he even in the theater talking to Wayne or was it all in his head? At the end of the film when he's talking to the doctor, he could be recalling what happened and telling the therapist the story we just saw from his point of view, so some of the events happened, but not necessarily they way he remembers them, since he's not a reliable narrator. He also looked different in the last scene. His face looked fuller.
 
I liked this iteration of the Joker. I really liked his backstory. I really liked Phoenix's performance. I loved his laughter, especially when it became painful.

The movie didn't surprise me at all though. In fact, it was exactly as I was expecting. The only scene that caught me off-guard was the imagined Beetz relationship.

I'm not certain how much I will revisit this movie. It was exhausting.

I really hated the new Joker look, but I have come around to it after experiencing the film.


All in all, the best thing to come out of DC in a long, long time... probably since Ledger's Joker (which I still prefer).
 
I love how out of control he was compared to other Jokers. Right after he
shoots Murray
he just sits there enjoying his work, laughing (maybe for the first time), then gets up, shoots him again, awkwardly drops the gun, doesn't know what to do, so he does a little dance and skips over the camera to end the show. :lol

Even his escape was completely out of his control, yet it looked planned since he was "rescued" by the guys wearing the clown masks. The icing on the cake,
Thomas Wayne getting gunned down.
He's like the Jack Sparrow of Jokers, completely random, out of control, and maybe lucky.
 
Sure sure next you?re going to say that Sony had the first 4K tv in 1980.

I?m on to you.

Both eyes on you now lol


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Actually, it was LG who release the first 4k tv model 84EM9600, in November 2012. It was on a Tuesday I recall. :wink1:
 
A few days after watching it, I think I can say that this was a good mentally-ill clown-man film.

I still stand by my initial review that this isn't a good Joker film. Can you imagine this Joker going against someone like Batman? I can't picture him becoming a worthy foil to the Dark Knight. Unless....

The only real part is him killing the final therapist and being chased by the orderly.

I think this is the only way this film would make sense as a Joker movie. In one of the scenes in the beginning where he was talking with his therapist, there was a brief flash of him hitting his head in one of the asylum rooms. I think the entire movie is him narrating what was happening to the therapist in the end. In the same way Ledger's "origin stories" were mostly false, or parts of a truth, this entire movie could also just be the fantasy running in Arthur's head with only snippets of reality.

If that's not it, then this will be one of the wimpiest Jokers to ever be on screen.
 
The deeper the ambiguity the less this Joker can stand toe to toe with Batman meaning if it gets to the point where this Joker is constantly fantasizing he?s just eventually going to paralyze himself that is unless Batman is just as unstable lol


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Yea idk why some are saying no Batman they literally show a vital scene in the movie that leads to Batman
 
I’m sorry but Joker’s 1% and bullying rant to Murray was on the nose cringe worthy.

Those 2 topics should be way beneath the level his intellect functions at.

UNLESS his on the nose monologue was meant to rile up and unite the masses which is mostly made up of simpletons looking for a leader.
 
Movie was great, and i?m so glad they took the non superhero comicy approach.

it was a perfect origin, and i also hope there?s not a sequel. leave it alone.

For once we can use our imaginations again.
 
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