DEADPOOL MOVIE

[jpsarri]

I don't have an illusion it's going to be a masterpiece of cinema by any means, but it has promise of being a good movie because the people involved all seem to care about getting this done right, so they're not just going to resort to f-word laden fart jokes and dudebro boob obsession. I think you can rest easy.
The little tastes we've gotten so far are very promising.

I reserve final judgement until the movie is out. Many movies have fallen flat even with all of their ducks in a row. We'll see.

 

[cilantropants]

True enough. It could end up sucking hard.

 

[GasparZizou]

I think we can allow ourselves to be optimistic about this, if we can't get excited about the most perfect prospect, then what can we get excited for? As far as I'm concerned, this is a wet dream for new and old DP fans.

I can handle some dark and slapstick humor. Matter of fact, I expect it. The only thing that worries me is that it would become the focal point of the entire movie. A Deadpool film like that is a total waste of time IMO.

Not at all, Deadpool is a walking cartoon, in fact I think I disagree with you on almost everything regarding this movie

I would not have minded a PG-13 movie if there was no choice, hell I was already resigned for it, but Deadpool is not a family friendly character, so R was the very best thing to do for the character regardless of how many butts you can put on the seats, furthermore you don't need Avengers box office for this to be successful, a mere 300million BO could be very good for this, and if we're optimistic, I can see that figure being surpassed easily.

So in my opinion, you're pulling a Mario López here and you know how that ends, you say you don't want a watered down DP movie, but seems that's exactly what you're asking for, besides, I don't know if you've read Marvel Now's DP because you seem to put down the "modern" Deadpool, but MN Deadpool is really as good as Cable&Deadpool and the Kelly run as far as story and characterization goes as well as balancing out the humor, in fact, what Deadpool is right now, it's what the character has been for the large majority of it's existence, unlike say Harley Quinn, who's become a wannabe Deadpool lately.

And as for the game, yeah, it had ****** gameplay, it's a mediocre game overall but the story/voice acting was on point.

 

[mr krapopple]

I think the R rating is a good thing. I don't think the movie should revolve around that though.
As long as it's not Way-pool I'll be happy. That's all I really care about.

 

[jpsarri]

I think we can allow ourselves to be optimistic about this, if we can't get excited about the most perfect prospect, then what can we get excited for? As far as I'm concerned, this is a wet dream for new and old DP fans.



Not at all, Deadpool is a walking cartoon, in fact I think I disagree with you on almost everything regarding this movie

I would not have minded a PG-13 movie if there was no choice, hell I was already resigned for it, but Deadpool is not a family friendly character, so R was the very best thing to do for the character regardless of how many butts you can put on the seats, furthermore you don't need Avengers box office for this to be successful, a mere 300million BO could be very good for this, and if we're optimistic, I can see that figure being surpassed easily.

So in my opinion, you're pulling a Mario López here and you know how that ends, you say you don't want a watered down DP movie, but seems that's exactly what you're asking for, besides, I don't know if you've read Marvel Now's DP because you seem to put down the "modern" Deadpool, but MN Deadpool is really as good as Cable&Deadpool and the Kelly run as far as story and characterization goes, in fact, what Deadpool is right now, it's what the character has been for the large majority of it's existence, unlike say Harley Quinn, who's become a wannabe Deadpool lately.

And as for the game, yeah, it had ****** gameplay, it's a mediocre game overall but the story/voice acting was on point.

The game sucked. There is no nicer way to put it. A walking cartoon? Maybe for those that are only familiar and more comfortable with the parody he is today in comics. The newer Marvel Now version has not impressed me at all, but to each its own. I can agree that Deadpool is not a family friendly character, but comics are not family friendly at all, unless you are referring to the Golden and Silver Age of classic comics.

The fact that Marvel can pull off a PG-13 on GOTG that by no means was a kid friendly run and be extremely successful, speaks volumes of the importance of considering a wider target audience. Although 20th Century Fox has managed to keep the X-Men, the FF and other Marvel franchises under its belt, it definitely has not been able to capitalize and to cement its control on the franchises. Fans are more interested in the rights to revert to Marvel (myself included) than to stay with a studio than more than often has brought us disappointment after disappointment, with a few exception of course.

With that being said, I am not trying to throw dirt at the film, the production team and the people involved. I don't have a problem with an R rated movie as long as it is done right. Fart jokes, boobs flashing, pools of blood and a hollowed script are only pleasing to a portion of viewers. An immature portion of viewers if you ask me. I want to see a Deadpool movie with the right amount of Action, Dark humor, gore and violence; and not a National Lampoon meets Kill Bill type of film.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

If this movie is R rated I'm gonna poop my pants and do a happy dance!

 

[mr krapopple]

If this movie is R rated I'm gonna poop my pants and do a happy dance!

It was confirmed R a while ago

 

[GasparZizou]

@jpsarri I said the game was ****** myself but the story and voice acting was great, and nope, he has been a walking cartoon most of his existence unless you missed like 60% or 70% of his appearances, he's not just a silly character, he's beyond that, and that doesn't mean he doesn't have character, hell, even in the Cable/Deadpool run he opened some issues with his own talk show, he's a walking cartoon, that can't be denied, Marvel Now deadpool started slow in terms of good writing, it was kinda boring at first, but characterization has never been an issue and it balances out humor with story perfectly well, in fact, if you ask me, not enough humor in the 1st issues.

Actually, there's a lot family friendly stuff in comics, even more so now, and Deadpool has very rarely been part of that..

GotG isn't anywhere near close to Deadpool in the amount of violence and adult related stuff, and couldn't do much exploiting that stuff anyway, it's not the same case at all, besides, GotG had a massively bigger budget and a stupidly huge marketing apparatus and the marvel train hype on it's side, but GotG isn't a great movie, once the dust has settled you can see it's actually a predictably boring movie with forced humor, and many have said so too in the review thread.

And what are you talking about? The Fox-men literally have only 2 bad movies sure I hate the leather costumes and I want to see what Disney would do with the X-men just because too but let's not pretend Fox does anything close to a bad job, 2 bad movies, you can't say that about Marvel Studios.

Sorry, but boob/fart and immature jokes have been a part of Deadpool since Deadpool became Deadpool, he's an immature caricature, a caricature with character but a caricature nonetheless.

 

[jpsarri]

@jpsarri I said the game was ****** myself but the story and voice acting was great, and nope, he has been a walking cartoon most of his existence unless you missed like 60% or 70% of his appearances, he's not just a silly character, he's beyond that, and that doesn't mean he doesn't have character, hell, even in the Cable/Deadpool run he opened some issues with his own talk show, he's a walking cartoon, that can't be denied.

Actually, there's a lot family friendly stuff in comics, even more so now, and Deadpool has very rarely been part of that..

GotG isn't anywhere near close to Deadpool in the amount of violence and adult related stuff, and couldn't do much exploiting that stuff anyway, it's not the same case at all, besides, GotG had a massively bigger budget and a stupidly huge marketing apparatus and the marvel train hype on it's side, but GotG isn't a great movie, once the dust has settled you can see it's actually a predictably boring movie with forced humor, and many have said so too in the review thread.

And what are you talking about? The Fox-men literally have only 2 bad movies sure I hate the leather costumes and I want to see what Disney would do with the X-men just because too but let's not pretend Fox does anything close to a bad job, 2 bad movies, you can't say that about Marvel Studios.

Sorry, but boob/fart and immature jokes have been a part of Deadpool since Deadpool became Deadpool, he's an immature caricature, a caricature with character but a caricature nonetheless.

You and I see things from different sides of the aisle. I have followed Deadpool since its induction almost 25 years ago on the New Mutants, through his appearances in the 90's, through his first solo run by Joe Kelly, and everything else after that. Tell me of a run where he has been portrayed for Mature audiences only (not counting the Max imprint that does not follow Marvel continuity). So far, everything he has done is PG-13, no more no less. The mayority of the people that say otherwise are only basing their opinion on misinformation, generated primarily online.

I am not the only one sharing this view, other fans share it as well. Here is a video from another YouTuber a few months back. He made great points:

 

[jpsarri]

Double post.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

Even with current PG-13 standards, the gore displayed by Deadpool in which I've seen is certainly very mature.

This is like asking for a Batman with strictly daylight exposure.

 

[crows]

You and I see things from different sides of the aisle. I have followed Deadpool since its induction almost 25 years ago on the New Mutants, through his appearances in the 90's, through his first solo run by Joe Kelly, and everything else after that. Tell me of a run where he has been portrayed for Mature audiences only (not counting the Max imprint that does not follow Marvel continuity). So far, everything he has done is PG-13, no more no less. The mayority of the people that say otherwise are only basing their opinion on misinformation, generated primarily online.

I am not the only one sharing this view, other fans share it as well. Here is a video from another YouTuber a few months back. He made great points:

thats a great video..

too bad its too late now lol

 

[GasparZizou]

He's not for mature audiences/gory/sexist all the time, but he can reach R-rated stuff quite easily and with frequency in terms of violence, he's nowhere near Wolverine of course, he's not some grotesque limb by limb masochist, he's not something from a SAW movie, in case you think that's my side of the aisle, which it's not, he's got a little less violence than say Dredd 3D, which is obvious violence that doesn't make it into PG13, plus PG in comics is way more giving than PG in movies, some stuff in a PG comic will be rated R in the movies, Deadpool is a guy who can be telling a funny innocent pun one second and have his arm or head chopped off the next, and still make a joke about it and that is pretty much literally what the essence of Deadpool is, he laughs through the pain, emotional and physical and you can't say that's not true, I want to see at least one scene where he loses one of his limbs and makes a joke about it, I doubt that can happen in PG-13, or it maybe can happen, but it's certainly risky.

Thinking about it, one decapitation, plus the multiple deaths due to gun violence, there's no way you can make a DP movie PG13 without compromising a little.

I just did a quick search from some of my digital stuff I skipped everything Marvel now because that's where they go all out on the gore in that one...

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I agree that most people right now jumped recently on the hype train, due to the game or the movie, but you said it yourself, the people who fill the seats are not the real comic book fans.

I've never read anything from MAX btw.

Will watch the video...

PS: You know how the new DP run is super gory right? Like external bowels gory, well that's also PG in the comics... It goes to show how PG in comics is very different from PG in movies.

 

[Scareb]

Even the earliest deadpool stuff is on the violent side of things. Blood and shooting people and impalement. Stuff that you can only get away with PG-13 wise today with quick cuts, obscuring the violence or neutering it. Deadpool is pure violence, there's no doubt about it. He kills people. Wolverine by essence isn't a character for kids, his thing is stabbing, slashing and killing people and it took an unrated directors cut for us to get anything from that movie in terms of violence which is ridiculous.

I really dont give a **** if kids or teenagers can't go see this movie.

 

[GasparZizou]

Wolverine is definitely neutered, I can see a Deadpool movie being made in PG13, I've said it before, but the R rated is the best way to go imo, that doesn't mean it's going to be a Serbian Film of comicbook movies, and frankly, Deadpool it's most definitely not a family friendly character, he's a mercenary, he kills good people and bad people for money, sure he's somewhat innocent but c'mon.

Besides, it's just not the same standard when it comes to violence between movies and comics.

PS: Just saw the video, I agree with what he said regarding Deadpool, not regarding the rating, Nicieza pretty much nailed it in his tweet, Rambo R + Buggs PG = Deadpool PG 13, that's how it is in the comics, except that's not how it works in movies, you can have Buggs PG comedy, but as soon as you add Rambo's violence, it gets R-rated, it doesn't go in between.

 

[jpsarri]

Even the earliest deadpool stuff is on the violent side of things. Blood and shooting people and impalement. Stuff that you can only get away with PG-13 wise today with quick cuts, obscuring the violence or neutering it. Deadpool is pure violence, there's no doubt about it. He kills people. Wolverine by essence isn't a character for kids, his thing is stabbing, slashing and killing people and it took an unrated directors cut for us to get anything from that movie in terms of violence which is ridiculous.

I really dont give a **** if kids or teenagers can't go see this movie.

And that is why Fox movies more than often flopped. People that do not give a ****.

 

[jpsarri]

Even the earliest deadpool stuff is on the violent side of things. Blood and shooting people and impalement. Stuff that you can only get away with PG-13 wise today with quick cuts, obscuring the violence or neutering it. Deadpool is pure violence, there's no doubt about it. He kills people. Wolverine by essence isn't a character for kids, his thing is stabbing, slashing and killing people and it took an unrated directors cut for us to get anything from that movie in terms of violence which is ridiculous.

I really dont give a **** if kids or teenagers can't go see this movie.

And that is why Fox movies more than often flop. People that do not give a ****.

 

[GasparZizou]

Not the X-men movies they don't, there's a reason they haven't returned the rights to Marvel.

In fact, even WMO Wolverine did better than The incredible Hulk

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Actually, there's a lot family friendly stuff in comics, even more so now, and Deadpool has very rarely been part of that..

GotG isn't anywhere near close to Deadpool in the amount of violence and adult related stuff, and couldn't do much exploiting that stuff anyway, it's not the same case at all, besides, GotG had a massively bigger budget and a stupidly huge marketing apparatus and the marvel train hype on it's side, but GotG isn't a great movie, once the dust has settled you can see it's actually a predictably boring movie with forced humor, and many have said so too in the review thread.

And what are you talking about? The Fox-men literally have only 2 bad movies sure I hate the leather costumes and I want to see what Disney would do with the X-men just because too but let's not pretend Fox does anything close to a bad job, 2 bad movies, you can't say that about Marvel Studios.

Sorry, but boob/fart and immature jokes have been a part of Deadpool since Deadpool became Deadpool, he's an immature caricature, a caricature with character but a caricature nonetheless.

2/7 is a great ratio. They started great, fumbled and then came roaring back. They deserve at the very least respect for not only that ratio but being the foundation of the Superhero revitalisation.

With this they've got one of if not the best costume adaptions and are killing it with the social media marketing Yet for some it's just never enough and theyll forever be the bad guys. I don't get it

 

[pturtle]

And that is why Fox movies more than often flopped. People that do not give a ****.

Has any of Fox's superhero films flopped?