Doctor Strange: the movie

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

It seems that Hollywood's definition of "diversity" means black characters and female characters. As long as those two groups are well represented, the films have a "diverse" cast. I don't like the gender and race swapping in comic films, and this is the second time Marvel does the same thing with an Asian character. If they want to change the gender for the sake of diversity, fine, but at least get an Asian actress to play the role. It seems that the only way Asians can get a job in Hollywood is if they know how to throw kicks and punches and the film has an Asian theme It really bothers me, and I'm not even Asian

Think that's quite true.

There's been plenty of changes from one ethnicity to black and from men to women but few changed to anything else and cases like this and Mandarin where Asian changes to something else

You guys are the only ones I constantly see going into all the other comic threads and spitefully bringing it up constantly while broadly insinuating everyone is a hypocritical a-hole. Can't imagine why you aren't winning hearts and minds.

If you're refering to me it pretty much stick to movie threads I'm interested in and don't ruin the fun for others by trolling against movies

I've said my piece so I'll leave this thread to those anticipating it.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

but we haven't seen the real Mandarin though.

 

[pturtle]

A nice retcon after the backlash. The first Mandarin was a 60 year old Caucasian man, the second one was a 40 year old Caucasian man, and I'm guessing the third (and hopefully last) Mandarin will be a 20 year old Caucasian man.

 

[Wor-Gar]

but we haven't seen the real Mandarin though.

That's probably their angle.


I think they should cast Liam Neeson as the Mandarin, but then halfway through the movie he admits he's not really the Mandarin but the real Trevor.

 

[Khev]

I think they should cast Liam Neeson as the Mandarin, but then halfway through the movie he admits he's not really the Mandarin but the real Trevor.

 

[Khev]

Whoa, easy Deckard. No dancing around those language filters man.

 

[Spartan Rex]

A fine actress but don't want her as the Ancient One. Respect the source material and forget the "Let's think outside the box and be cutting edge, socially relevant P.C. BS." One miscast in the form of Cumberbatch is enough for this flick.
She didn't help Constantine either.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That's probably their angle.


I think they should cast Liam Neeson as the Mandarin, but then halfway through the movie he admits he's not really the Mandarin but the real Trevor.

Yes, and at the very end of the film he reveals that his real-real name is Ducard, not Trevor. Later in a post credit scene we see him again, this time revealing himself as Ras Al Ghul, and as Tony Stark's real father, since Tony is actually adopted in the comics.

 

[cilantropants]

A fine actress but don't want her as the Ancient One. Respect the source material and forget the "Let's think outside the box and be cutting edge, socially relevant P.C. BS." One miscast in the form of Cumberbatch is enough for this flick.
She didn't help Constantine either.

Respectfully disagree. I highly doubt this is a PC casting at all. She's great and can be a terribly commanding presence. I assume they'll retcon it to be that the Ancient One is an eternal presence that can take any form it wishes, rather than having a human birth and life. Would do absolutely nothing to change the bones of Strange's story whatever they do.

And she kicked all kinds of ass as Gabriel in Constantine.

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[jye4ever]

C'mon fellas, no need for personal attacks against anyone, we all rib each others movies now and then, just enjoy the lolz, they're freaking movies.

 

[Khev]

C'mon fellas, no need for personal attacks against anyone, we all rib each others movies now and then, just enjoy the lolz, they're freaking movies.

/\ This. Stupid back and forth deleted.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Chiwetel Ejiofor to Play Baron Mordo in Doctor Strange - ComingSoon.net

When Baron Karl Amadeus Mordo first appeared in Marvel Comics’ “Strange Tales” #111 (Doctor Strange’s second issue), he was a treacherous student of Tibetan sorcerer The Ancient One. The Baron’s planned betrayal was one of the catalysts for Stephen Strange to devote his life to magic, and after Mordo’s exile, he has frequently used black magic and invoked demons against Strange, two big no-no’s for the good Doctor.

It is stated that Ejiofor’s Mordo will not be totally evil in the film, but rather an amalgamation of several characters in the Strange canon, which points to him possibly beginning as an ally and gradually turning to evil. Tilda Swinton has signed to play The Ancient One, and it should also be noted that Ejiofor has displayed excellent fighting prowess in both Serenity and Redbelt, the latter of which he learned Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for.

Better than the Tilda Swinton casting...but once again, not a fan of the casting choice.

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[jye4ever]

The MCU main man talks Strange's address, The Ancient One and psychedelia.
By DEVIN FARACI Jun. 28, 2015



Last week director Scott Derrickson headed to London to start making the most unusual Marvel movie to date: Doctor Strange. I say that not because I know the script or have any particular inside information, but because Doctor Strangewill be the film that brings the most fantastical elements into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Even the magic of the Thor movies is described as super science - who can forget the Soul Forge/Quantum Field Generator in The Dark World (a lot of you, probably. I like that movie, sue me)?



But how fantastical will it be? I asked Kevin Feige about Doctor Strange at the Ant-Man junket and got some interesting answers.



For me the starting point when talking about Strange is ‘Where does he live?’ One of the problems the Daredevil Netflix show had to face was that modern day Hell’s Kitchen is nothing like the Hell’s Kitchen of the 1960s through the 1990s. They got around that by having the area returned to its bad old days as a result of the Chitauri trashing it during The Avengers. But Stephen Strange lives in Greenwich Village, which was a hip, bohemian enclave in the early 1960s - see Inside Llewyn Davis - but is now the place you go when you want to buy a thousand dollar designer handbag. Can Strange still keep his Sanctum Sanctorum in the Village when it has become one of New York’s most upscale neighborhoods? Will Marvel move him out?



“The Sanctum is on Bleeker Street, the modern day Bleeker Street,” Feige told me, adding: “He will be the strangest thing walking out onto that street.”



Other things have changed since the first appearance of Doctor Strange, and racial sensitivity is chief among them. Strange’s origin is tied into a certain kind of exotic Orientalism that was popular in the 20th century, and his mentor The Ancient One was basically just a racist caricature of a wise old Tibetan man. Recent rumors have Tilda Swinton taking the role of The Ancient One, a choice that swaps not just gender but race.



“As we were developing this film we looked at The Ancient One as a mantle more than a specific person,” Feige explained. “The sorcerers have been around for millennia, protecting us from things we didn’t know about until this story. There have been multiple [Ancient Ones], even if this one has been around for five hundred years, there were others. This is a mantle, and therefore felt we had leeway to cast in interesting ways.”



I present the next bit of the conversation in Q&A format:



So you’re removing the sorcerers from the phony Tibetan mysticism that Stan Lee used because he probably didn’t really research Tibet in any real way?



Not entirely. The phony mysticism is part of what makes Doctor Strange interesting!



But are you tying it into that specific culture?



Not Tibet. Strange leaves New York in search of something and heads east.



Heads east! It’s important to note that in official Marvel Comics continuity The Ancient One actually hails from a phony kingdom called Kamar-Taj, nestled in the Himalayas (one assumes not far from the phony city of K’un-Lun, from which Netflix’s Iron Fist will get his powers (if the show follows the comics).



But how fantastical will Doctor Strange get? I left this bit last because it contains the slightest of spoilers for Ant-Man. If you don’t want to hear about a very cool sequence at the end of Ant-Man, stop reading right now!



One of the most surprising things about Ant-Man is that it contains a sequence at the end that can be honestly compared (in concept! This isn’t a value judgment!) to the ending trip sequence of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It’s a huge highlight of the film, and it’s a moment that expands the visual vocabulary of the MCU films. And that was very on purpose, it seems.



Says Feige: “We send Ant-Man on a very weird, mind-bending journey at the end of Ant-Man. It was something we hadn’t seen in a shrinking movie before, but it also represents the tip of the mind-bending weirdness we’re going to do in Strange, which I think will surprise people.”

 

[Spartan Rex]

I'm sure the 4:20 showings of Dr Strange will be very popular.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

So in their effort to diversify the MCU, they changed an Asian character with a white character?

They could have kept him Asian, just don't turn him into this...

 

[RIDDICK]

Other things have changed since the first appearance of Doctor Strange, and racial sensitivity is chief among them. Strange’s origin is tied into a certain kind of exotic Orientalism that was popular in the 20th century, and his mentor The Ancient One was basically just a racist caricature of a wise old Tibetan man. Recent rumors have Tilda Swinton taking the role of The Ancient One, a choice that swaps not just gender but race.

“As we were developing this film we looked at The Ancient One as a mantle more than a specific person,” Feige explained. “The sorcerers have been around for millennia, protecting us from things we didn’t know about until this story. There have been multiple [Ancient Ones], even if this one has been around for five hundred years, there were others. This is a mantle, and therefore felt we had leeway to cast in interesting ways.”

 

[The Mike]

Concept art possibilities:

Doctor Strange Benedict Cumberbatch Concept Art Descriptions - Cosmic Book News

 

[The Mike]

According to ScreenDaily, Doctor Strange cinematographer Ben Davis (Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Age of Ultron) says the upcoming film has a “psychedelic grounding” and that it would be “Marvel’s Fantasia” because the direction is so different compared to the other films.

“Most of the work within it is about other dimensions,” Davis said.

“And I described it, I think, when I was talking to Marvel as Marvel’s Fantasia, in a way, because it’s so sort of out there and different to everything else that they’ve done.”

“It’s all very out there. I can’t really say much more about it, I’m afraid. But I think it’ll be really interesting, and it’s a very dark movie, I’m pleased to say.”

Doctor Strange Cinematographer Calls Film 'Marvel's Fantasia' - IGN