Doctor Strange: the movie

[Victοr]

This will flop.....as far as MCU movies standards

What's the future like? Does Trump build the biggest wall ever? Who pays for it? Who helms the next Fant4stic? I need answers *********!

 

[kryptonianmutie]

What's the future like? Does Trump build the biggest wall ever? Who pays for it? Who helms the next Fant4stic? I need answers *********!

The future sucks

Trump builds an invisible wall

The chitauri pay for it.

Brett Ratner

 

[karamazov80]

This will flop.....as far as MCU movies standards - TDW kind of money- boy that was a MEH flm if I ever saw one

I'm sure there are appropriate expectations by the suits. They don't go into an Ant-Man or Thor sequel expecting Avengers-level revenue.

 

[Victοr]

The future sucks

Trump builds an invisible wall

The chitauri pay for it.

Brett Ratner

...Damn...Do we at least have holograms? Fully-immersive and hard light holograms I mean. I'm asking for...research...purposes

I'm sure there are appropriate expectations by the suits. They don't go into an Ant-Man or Thor sequel expecting Avengers-level revenue.

This. Nobody's expecting it to make a billion bucks. Folks said that Ant-Man, GotG, even Deadpool would flop. Let's just wait for the film first before we proclaim it a flop, is all I'm saying.

 

[RIDDICK]

This will flop as far as MCU movies standards.

 

[karamazov80]

Of course, they always hope a film will do GOTG- or Deadpool-type numbers. I'm sure that is also part of the calculation. If one of these becomes a pretty big success, they will capitalize on it and pump out a sequel. If not, they'll make a film out of a new character/team instead and roll the dice again.

 

[Victοr]

Of course, they always hope a film will do GOTG- or Deadpool-type numbers. I'm sure that is also part of the calculation. If one of these becomes a pretty big success, they will capitalize on it and pump out a sequel. If not, they'll make a film out of a new character/team instead and roll the dice again.

It's just that I never got this "it'll flop" mentality. We saw how much GotG, a film about nobodies made, and how much BvS made. Nothing is set in stone and everything is in flux. Doctor Strange could very well be a massive success, for all we know. Besides, it's got Cumberbatch. Like him or not, he draws people. Even my parents want to see it because he's in there, and they're not the biggest CBM fans (they skipped BvS for example). Let's just wait and see...

 

[karamazov80]

Of course, it can flop, but Marvel Studios has this down to a science now I'm sure, with all their experience with films, including the marketing and testing of film ideas. I would be much more anxious if I were a WB/DC fan, since their history is much more mixed, since they don't have a really established "universe," and since they seem to allow the creative teams more free reign, with no parallel to Feige at Marvel. Greater risk, but also greater potential rewards there.

 

[Victοr]

Of course, it can flop, but Marvel Studios has this down to a science now I'm sure, with all their experience with films, including the marketing and testing of film ideas. I would be much more anxious if I were a WB/DC fan, since their history is much more mixed, since they don't have a really established "universe," and since they seem to allow the creative teams more free reign, with no parallel to Feige at Marvel. Greater risk, but also greater potential rewards there.

Pretty much this. Marvel can be too controlling at times, but saying that this will flop based on no evidence whatsoever, when a movies based on Ant-Man and Groot have made money is a bit weird to say. SKWAD has a much higher risk of flopping, which is why they have the Batman/Harley/Joker safety net. The classic comics were great, but they took the New 52 route in order to have some A-Listers in there just to be safe.

 

[bboy]

this will probably flop. GotG had the super color trailer with a talking raccoon for the kids and the pop. music. Ant-man had paul rudd and was also really kid friendly and advertised that way. Dr. Strange looks more like Thor 2.

 

[spindrift]

this will probably flop. GotG had the super color trailer with a talking raccoon for the kids and the pop. music. Ant-man had paul rudd and was also really kid friendly and advertised that way. Dr. Strange looks more like Thor 2.

Law of averages- Marvel is due to have a flop-a true flop- only matter of time- they can sustain market control and formula for only so long.
there is NO way they can keep having big succeses with each movie one after another. That's plain head-in-the-sand fanboy belief.
In fact CW will be the test to see if it's wearing thin. If this is goping to be a great movie(I have no doubt it is) that DOES NOT translate into $600 million domestic box office.

Wonder what the fanboys wiill say if CW doesm't reach even AoU numbers?

 

[Victοr]

this will probably flop. GotG had the super color trailer with a talking raccoon for the kids and the pop. music. Ant-man had paul rudd and was also really kid friendly and advertised that way. Dr. Strange looks more like Thor 2.

Doctor Strange has Benedict Cumberbatch, a person with international appeal, tons of fangirls and tons of prestigious theatre awards, Oscar winners in Chitewel Ejiofor and Tilda Swinton and most importantly... it's made by Marvel. It's foolish to think that after 13 movies featuring B and D listers with relatively unknown actors, they're going to have a flop with such a cast and after their history. It's about as valid as me saying that SKWAD will flop really, really damn hard because both BvS and MoS were misses and DC still hasn't found its footing.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I wouldn't say flop, but I do think it might be a harder sell than the other Marvel movies just because the genre seems so different than your typical comic book movie. In fact, watching that trailer I'm guessing most of the general population would not even realize it's a Marvel superhero movie that is in the same world as the Avengers, etc. GOTG had a slight advantage in it being a space adventure, so that genre in itself has a large audience that also crosses over.

But an Inception-esque, mystical, cerebral thriller with a horror director? That's definitely going into uncharted territory.

Personally I'm excited that it is such a different feel and I'm anxious to see how he does mesh up to the rest of the Marvel Universe.

 

[rivera2171]

This movie will reign. All arguments to the contrary are pointless...

 

[GasparZizou]

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[Victοr]

Law of averages- Marvel is due to have a flop-a true flop- only matter of time- they can sustain market control and formula for only so long.
there is NO way they can keep having big successes with each movie one after another. That's plain head-in-the-sand fanboy belief.
In fact CW will be the test to see if it's wearing thin. If this is goping to be a great movie(I have no doubt it is) that DOES NOT translate into $600 million domestic box office.

Wonder what the fanboys wiill say if CW doesm't reach even AoU numbers?

Flop =/= "not doing Avengers numbers". Nobody's expecting a Captain America movie to make 2 billion, just as nobody expected GotG to reach so high. In fact, it's more of a "fanboyism" to come in threads, after just one teaser and say "this will probably flop just cause, ya know, law of averages". Nobody's forcing you to like the film, be excited or even notice it, but what's the point of simply coming here to shout "doom and gloom". Do I now have to go to the Wonder Woman thread and proclaim that it'll flop? Nothing points to Doctor Strange flopping. If anything, WB should be ready for a colossal flop in SS considering their track record and brand recognition.

How about we actually get closer to the release date and wait for the early tracking numbers before we go all "it's gonna flop". GotG was supposed to be the first flop. It wasn't. Ant-Man was then supposed to be the first flop. It wasn't. I don't see why Doctor Strange of all characters should be the one. Let's wait before we judge, eh?

 

[Victοr]

I wouldn't say flop, but I do think it might be a harder sell than the other Marvel movies just because the genre seems so different than your typical comic book movie. In fact, watching that trailer I'm guessing most of the general population would not even realize it's a Marvel superhero movie that is in the same world as the Avengers, etc. GOTG had a slight advantage in it being a space adventure, so that genre in itself has a large audience that also crosses over.

But an Inception-esque, mystical, cerebral thriller with a horror director? That's definitely going into uncharted territory.

Personally I'm excited that it is such a different feel and I'm anxious to see how he does mesh up to the rest of the Marvel Universe.

Will it make 1.5 billion? I don't think so. Will it also bomb and make 200 million bellow budget as well? I also don't think so. Sure, it's different and a departure from the usual Marvel stuff, but that doesn't mean that there's not an audience for it. If a flop is inevitable because of the formula becoming stale, then doesn't it make sense to change the formula?

 

[bboy]

Doctor Strange has Benedict Cumberbatch, a person with international appeal, tons of fangirls and tons of prestigious theatre awards, Oscar winners in Chitewel Ejiofor and Tilda Swinton and most importantly... it's made by Marvel. It's foolish to think that after 13 movies featuring B and D listers with relatively unknown actors, they're going to have a flop with such a cast and after their history. It's about as valid as me saying that SKWAD will flop really, really damn hard because both BvS and MoS were misses and DC still hasn't found its footing.

Maybe Cumberbatch was popular and I just didn't know that. I didn't think anyone knew who he was. He's just that odd looking guy I see every now and then, not at all how I pictured Strange (I don't really know the character though). Tilda Swinton looked laughable in the short parts we've seen, but I dig her so maybe she does have star power. As for comparing this to SKAWD, nahhh squad will kill it with Joker, Harley, and Bats. It's going to make the money no matter what. BVS may have been a miss, but its made way more than Strange ever will. Still, I think this will be another Thor series.

 

[IrishJedi]

The box office for this one is hard to predict. Sure, it might "under perform" by current Marvel standards. But it could also be an unexpectedly huge smash like GOTG or ANT-MAN... or anywhere in between.

I seriously doubt it will outright "bomb", though.

 

[Centurion]

Just saw the trailer. I think that's all I'll watch for this.