Does Rogue One detract from A New Hope?

[Khev]

With the PT Lucas had the unenviable task of outdoing the OT with movies that were meant to be viewed before it.

It wasn't a problem for Gareth and Gilroy.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Rocket-powered R2 in AOTC spoils non-rocket-powered Artoo in the OT!

Yeah. R2 could have gotten out of that swamp in ESB if he remembered he had rocket jets. He could have pursued Boba's escaping ship. He could have jettisoned from Luke's X-wing instead of getting "killed".

 

[DiFabio]

Rocket-powered R2 in AOTC spoils non-rocket-powered Artoo in the OT!

With the PT Lucas had the unenviable task of outdoing the OT with movies that were meant to be viewed before it.

Lucas clearly didn't even care about them matching up. No prequel in the history of film feels like it naturally occurs before the first original movie anyway. It ends up looking too new, too polished because *gasp* movies are of their time! Only way the Thing (2011) would look like an actual previous chapter to John Carpenters' Thing is if it was filmed in 1980. Only way the Phantom Menace would have convincingly worked is if it was filmed in the 60s. The Hobbit flicks? 1996, 1997 and 1998. Prometheus and Alien Covenant, mid-1970s. Terminator Genisys . . . 1984. That's why all prequels suck in my eyes. They never convincingly capture that feeling of actually preceding the original beloved movie they're based on and they're always self aware of everything that will eventually come after (kid Greedo getting his ass kicked by kid Anakin, the dog from the Thing, Dr. Evzazan and Walrusman saying the same dialogue, the stupid little baby Deacon alien from Prometheus, Legolas talking to his daddy about finding the ranger from the north). They're all pointless fan service, not real stories. Only sequels can add to the lore in a good way.

R2 is like Bond in a sense, he always had a new gadget for any scenario that presented itself. Attack of the Clones wasn't the second Star Wars movie in the franchise, it was the 5th. Couple seconds of R2 didn't spoil or ruin the character. The problem with that terrible tacked on droid factory scene isn't R2 flying around. Gotta change him up for the kiddies to buy the 20th version of his action figure because a pop up sensor scope ain't cutting it in 2002. Unlike the prequel's lame ass kid Boba or Vader however, R2 was always R2. C-3PO would be too, if he was just a Naboo or coruscant protocol droid and not Vader's stupid robo-son.


Anyway, flying R2 is a great idea. Forget the jet thrusters though, I want a drone R2.





If Star Wars was made today, you bet your ass R2 would fly down into the garbage pit and pull Luke, Han, Leia and Chewie out of there instead of putting his stick into a wall.

 

[Prime Clone]

It wasn't a problem for Gareth and Gilroy.

If you believe RO outdid the OT. I have a different "certain point of view"!

 

[Khev]

If you believe RO outdid the OT. I have a different "certain point of view"!

I thought that that might get a reaction.

It certainly outdid ROTJ and indeed various aspects of SW and ESB but otherwise yes I would put RO third overall behind SW/ESB.

 

[Prime Clone]

I put it below TFA... which I put below ROTS. But that's probably due to my preconceived notion it's not as "important" as the major episodes.

 

[Khev]

Just wait until Plagueis gets his own spin-off movie then you'll be singing a different tune about how "important" they are compared to the Episodes.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I can't wait until this Plagueis thing is disproved.

 

[Khev]

I hope that Snoke doesn't end up having any "Darth" title at all.

 

[Wor-Gar]

He doesn't wear black, so he can't be a Sith. (not sure black is a rule, but its been a recurring dress code for as long as there have been Sith in Star Wars lore)

Can you imagine if Disney changed the Darth dress code to: "black... or gold lame".

 

[Prime Clone]

I can't wait until this Plagueis thing is disproved.

Johnson respects the prequels so it could go either way.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Johnson respects the prequels so it could go either way.

Please see Post #110.

 

[Prime Clone]

This is my takeaway

not sure black is a rule

 

[Sachiel]

The Plagueis novel is not part of the NuCanon.

 

[DiFabio]

How the hell did Palpatine kill him in his sleep? That dude is a giant and has the head of the IT 2017 painting lady.

 

[karamazov80]

The vader scene is one of the greatest scenes in the entire franchise.

Hes my all time favorite android.

rogue one first of course

I'd actually argue that his first appearance in the Phantom Menace being the last droid standing while fixing the ship or whatever was a better entrance to his character than Princess Leia sticking a floppy disc in him before he veers off course and rolls into a wall off camera.

You think you know a guy. . .

 

[Khev]

lol kara.

 

[Wor-Gar]

All I know is that whatever Snoke is -- and its not Plagueis -- he too has some mysterious master that all fanboys will be certain is behind the evil of the next trilogy.

 

[Khev]

All I know is that whatever Snoke is -- and its not Plagueis -- he too has some mysterious master that all fanboys will be certain is behind the evil of the next trilogy.

"They grab the directors, they move them over there and they immobilize them to be hosts for more of these spin-off movies. Which would mean that there would have to be a lot of these stand alone films, right? One for each year. That's over a hundred at least."

"Yes, that follows."

"But each one of these Sith comes from a Supreme Leader, right? So who's in charge of the Leaders?"

"I'm not sure. It must be something we haven't seen yet."

 

[Darth Snoopy]

All I know is that whatever Snoke is -- and its not Plagueis -- he too has some mysterious master that all fanboys will be certain is behind the evil of the next trilogy.

According to some we already know who the "evil" is.