Economic Plan/Crisis of each candidate

[The Ween]

check out this "unbiased" newstory from CNN. Give me a frickin' break.



and it goes on to praise and bless Obama.

When asked about McCain's contribution, you get this...



Jesus! It's almost comical how geared the media is towards Obama. This may be the first election where the media elects a president for us.

Mesa, they each have their share of the media. McCain has Fox to praise him. Each side has beefs with the media. They both think the media is out to get them. No, they're out for themselves and whatever story they can get.

 

[The Ween]

Oh yeah, someone please tell letterman to quit crying that McCain chose to work on a solution to economic crisis in Washington rather than be a guest on the Letterman show.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_letterman;_ylt=At5_ZVyvUr1KF1Jr7FqJjv4DW7oF


Is lettermen really that full of himself that he thinks his shows take priority over this. I haven't watched that show in years. When I have flipped it on, it's awful

I have to ask you this, if Obama said he didn't want to do the debates and instead wanted to work on the economic crisis, would you feel the same way as you do about McCain doing it? What can McCain do about the economic crisis, NOW?

IMO, it's all political razzle dazzle.

And no, I'm not lib, or a dem or a Obama lover. I don't like any of them, but, like Brodie, Palin is tops on my dislike list.

 

[Malice]

I have to ask you this, if Obama said he didn't want to do the debates and instead wanted to work on the economic crisis, would you feel the same way as you do about McCain doing it? What can McCain do about the economic crisis, NOW?

IMO, it's all political razzle dazzle.

And no, I'm not lib, or a dem or a Obama lover. I don't like any of them, but, like Brodie, Palin is tops on my dislike list.

i like that! you want to razzle dazzle?

 

[Mesa]

I have to ask you this, if Obama said he didn't want to do the debates and instead wanted to work on the economic crisis, would you feel the same way as you do about McCain doing it? What can McCain do about the economic crisis, NOW?

IMO, it's all political razzle dazzle.

And no, I'm not lib, or a dem or a Obama lover. I don't like any of them, but, like Brodie, Palin is tops on my dislike list.

Obama has turn downed numerous requests by McCain to debate. LINK But now that Obama can use it to make McCain look weak or unable to multi-task, he's making the most of it. McCain isn't scared in the slighest. Obama doesn't do too well without the words printed in front of him. Obama gives a great speech when it's written for him.


What can McCain do about the economic crisis now??? If congress and senate don't come to some sort of an agreement within the next day or two, more banks will start to fall under. It's all over the news. As much as I hate to see irresponsible home owners get a free ride for buying what they couldn't afford, it needs to be done. And as much as I hate to see unethical stock traders and Managers/CEO's get bailed out for making poor business decisions, it needs to be done. McCain went back to Congress to work out the details of a solution. While Obama wants to show boat and look pretty and continue to hypnotize the public. When asked what Obama was going to do about the economic bail out plan, Obama said he'd he helpful if he could. Doesn't sound like much of a leader or decision maker to me.

"I've told the leadership in Congress is that if I can be helpful then I am prepared to be anywhere at anytime," he said.

Maybe he should just vote "present" on whatever is put in front of him like he did 100+ times during his 2 years in Congress.

Edit: Sorry, looks like his present vote count was more like 100+

 

[Malice]

Obama has turn downed numerous requests by McCain to debate. LINK But now that Obama can use it to make McCain look weak or unable to multi-task, he's making the most of it. McCain isn't scared in the slighest. Obama doesn't do too well without the words printed in front of him. Obama gives a great speech when it's written for him.


What can McCain do about the economic crisis now??? If congress and senate don't come to some sort of an agreement within the next day or two, more banks will start to fall under. It's all over the news. As much as I hate to see irresponsible home owners get a free ride for buying what they couldn't afford, it needs to be done. And as much as I hate to see unethical stock traders and Managers/CEO's get bailed out for making poor business decisions, it needs to be done. McCain went back to Congress to work out the details of a solution. While Obama wants to show boat and look pretty and continue to hypnotize the public. When asked what Obama was going to do about the economic bail out plan, Obama said he'd he helpful if he could. Doesn't sound like much of a leader or decision maker to me.



Maybe he should just vote "present" on whatever is put in front of him like he did 250+ times during his 2 years in Congress.

hell no!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mesa]

John Edward's on Obama's "present" vote record during democratic debates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD3CWIh-UP0

NY Times article on Obama's "present" vote record:

Although a present vote is not unusual in Illinois, Mr. Obama’s use of it is being raised as he tries to distinguish himself as a leader who will take on the tough issues, even if it means telling people the “hard truths” they do not want to hear.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html


That's the problem with this candidate. He won't take a side. He just promises rainbows, sunshine, miracles and lollipops to everyone. And so far, it's worked VERY well for him. That's what most people want to hear right now in these difficult times. "Everything is going to be okay."

But when you stop and think about how he's actually going to accomplish all these, you see it's just simply not practical without putting the US further in debt.

The worse kind of leader is one who won't make a decision. Even the unpopular ones.

 

[OSCORP]

I'm with Bodie Republicans suck! (too much right-wing neoconservative love in here)

Not trying to start anything, i just wanna get that off my chest....carry on!

 

[nash]

Making a decision is NOT the same as making it happen. Talk is cheap man, no matter how much you "take a side".

 

[hoodonit00]

I'm with Bodie Republicans suck! (too much right-wing neoconservative love in here)

Not trying to start anything, i just wanna get that off my chest....carry on!

Yea, what a game we play. I think Democrats suck REALLY bad, and you smell funny.(to much liberal, pacifist Democratic love in here) Heres a video about stupid Bush and McCain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0

 

[teemu]

Republicans/Democrats = Organized Crime

 

[Mesa]

Making a decision is NOT the same as making it happen. Talk is cheap man, no matter how much you "take a side".

Talk IS cheap, which is basically all I've seen Obama do. Thanks for proving my point.

Yea, what a game we play. I think Democrats suck REALLY bad, and you smell funny.(to much liberal, pacifist Democratic love in here) Heres a video about stupid Bush and McCain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0

EVERYONE should view this video.

Our current economic crisis is the result of promising the world to everyone. Poor and only make $6 an hour? Sure, you can afford a $300,000 home. Well, now look at the outcome. bankrupt banks because they loaned money out to unqualified people that couldn't pay it back and just bailed. And now Obama wants to make sure they get free healthcare without having to work for anything.

I guess I was just raised differently. I was taught, "Work hard and be rewarded." I've never received a handout from anyone and I'm not looking to get any. I wish more people felt this way rather than looking for the government to nurse them through life.

 

[hoodonit00]

Republicans/Democrats = Organized Crime

Ron Paul = crazy isolationist.

 

[Darklord Dave]

check out this "unbiased" newstory from CNN. Give me a frickin' break.

and it goes on to praise and bless Obama.

When asked about McCain's contribution, you get this...

Jesus! It's almost comical how geared the media is towards Obama. This may be the first election where the media elects a president for us.

For every positive report on CNN there's 2 negative on Fox News - if you survey the dial, there's more of a balance of coverage.

And there appears too much bashing in here - this thread is on notice.

 

[monkeydad16]

I would just like to say thank you to: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barney Frank. Thanks for the upcoming Depression. Thanks for thinking it was every one's right to own a home, regardless of if they had any money. I'm sure the next few years will be swell.

 

[Anzik]

According to this UCLA study the media leans left.
https://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

 

[Mesa]

For every positive report on CNN there's 2 negative on Fox News - if you survey the dial, there's more of a balance of coverage.

And there appears too much bashing in here - this thread is on notice.

What's bashing Dave? Nobody's done any direct name calling with a few exceptions.

I'm presenting credible links from a multitude of sources supporting why I like the candidate I do and don't find the other candidate credible. I was hoping someone would counter with other facts to counter and show support for their candidate, rather than just staements like "McCain sux" or "Obama sux."

Maybe political threads should not be allowed, because we don't seem to be able to have them progress before being shut down.

Say the word, make it a board rule, and I'll do my best at halting all further political opinions.

 

[Mesa]

I would just like to say thank you to: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barney Frank. Thanks for the upcoming Depression. Thanks for thinking it was every one's right to own a home, regardless of if they had any money. I'm sure the next few years will be swell.

I wasn't even aware of this until I started looking into the cause of the problem. And I didn't start doing that until I started losing thousands in my 401k account. Glad I'm not nearing retirement.

 

[Darklord Dave]

I would just like to say thank you to: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barney Frank. Thanks for the upcoming Depression. Thanks for thinking it was every one's right to own a home, regardless of if they had any money. I'm sure the next few years will be swell.

Actually it was Reagan that shepherded in the deregulation that made the mortgage mess possible.

 

[Mesa]

Actually it was Reagan that shepherded in the deregulation that made the mortgage mess possible.

show me. I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to see how this all came to be.


And the derugulation that was done that allowed this to happen is exactly what is being undone with this bailout. I really don't like the idea of government having control of commercial businesses. Goes against the free market system that had helped to make America so successful in business.

Edit: having thought about it, deregulation and less government is the conservative stance, so yes, Reagan is partly to blame if he did deregulate oversite of Wall Street. Which is exactly why the situation we find ourselves in is EVERYONE'S fault, not just republicans, and not just liberals, which is why Congress needs to come together and cross partisan lines to reach a good and fair solution for the future of the economy.

 

[Anzik]

https://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullp...sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
2003 Republicans tried to regulate Freddie and Fannie and the Democrats stopped it.
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''