GI Joe: Rise of Cobra Discussion and Reviews [SPOILERS]

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Movie wasnt good, story was lame, etc etc etc. Bloodsort said it best "Its just pure mindless action. And the action wasnt that good". GI Joe has so many great characters and the movie didnt do them any justice. I'm surprised Baroness and Scarlet didnt have a make out scene.

I'd never buy this movie. I rented it for a $1 at Redbox and want my money back. lol

Valfar just reminded me of when they were flying to the Joe's secret base for the first time. the CGI for the plain was garbage and it didnt interact with sand at all. Thats just poor thinking.
 
Still haven't seen this, which is a bit hilarious as GI Joe is huge to me. When it was at the theaters I kept saying I would nab it on Blu-Ray when it hit. Now that is out I am thinking I may wait until they have on HD Ondemand... who knows maybe I will even skip it there. Gah... making a worthwhile joe movie wouldn't have been that hard... can't believe they screwed it up.

They should have let Hama go to town, the Origins book from IDW is ???? hot.
 
Seriously considering putting this in my Netflix queue. . .maybe I will one of these days. Probably won't, though.

Still haven't seen this, which is a bit hilarious as GI Joe is huge to me. When it was at the theaters I kept saying I would nab it on Blu-Ray when it hit. Now that is out I am thinking I may wait until they have on HD Ondemand... who knows maybe I will even skip it there. Gah... making a worthwhile joe movie wouldn't have been that hard... can't believe they screwed it up.

They should have let Hama go to town, the Origins book from IDW is ???? hot.


If you are a fan of GI Joe, it will only upset. The characters in the movie are just named after people from GI Joe. See it if you want to but dont be surprised. lol
 
it's on my Netflix list....the bottom.....below movies that have been at the bottom of my list for over a year because other movies get bumped in front of them.

EDIT: I took it off my list.
 
Lots of hyperbole being thrown around in this thread. Rise of Cobra isn't as bad as its being made out to be. Tatum and Wayans are stupid (Tatum much moreso) but the movie still had a lot of cool and fun elements. Way too many to deserve the ribbing its receiving here.
 
Lots of hyperbole being thrown around in this thread. Rise of Cobra isn't as bad as its being made out to be. Tatum and Wayans are stupid (Tatum much moreso) but the movie still had a lot of cool and fun elements. Way too many to deserve the ribbing its receiving here.

i just can't the preview clip with Wayans in his "suit" and falling over when he gets out of the vehicle, etc. out of my head. i just can't.
 
Lots of hyperbole being thrown around in this thread. Rise of Cobra isn't as bad as its being made out to be. Tatum and Wayans are stupid (Tatum much moreso) but the movie still had a lot of cool and fun elements. Way too many to deserve the ribbing its receiving here.

Sorry Khev, this moving deserves the bashing it is getting, yes TF2 was awful but this was worse. What makes it so bad, is the same as TF2, they just threw it together and didnt give a damn what came out.
 
Sorry Khev, this moving deserves the bashing it is getting, yes TF2 was awful but this was worse. What makes it so bad, is the same as TF2, they just threw it together and didnt give a damn what came out.

Thats basically what it was. They used the name "GI Joe" to get people to watch the movie. Yes the movie had some okay parts, like the nano missile and Scarlet's breasts, but thats about it.

Underwater fight scene was ridiculous.
 

The Cobra weaponry was cool

A ton of references to the toon and comic book

Ray Park's gun and swordplay were fantastic

The guy who played Storm Shadow did a good job as well

The giant underwater pulse cannon was flat out awesome (great sound effects, the "recoil" looked cool, etc.)

The Night Raven and USS FLagg

Snake Eyes instantly hopping on a sled to detonate a Nano-missile seconds after it takes off

The Apache pilots in the beginning actually flew Apaches in real life and it showed in their jargon (which they provided) and demeanor

Lots of cool practical effects (cars flipping, buildings exploding, etc.)

Tatum's stuntman was a genuine badass who rushed the East Africa building as it exploded in an enormous real life fireball

Great intercutting between the underwater "space battle", SE/SS duel, and Night Raven

The Vipers with the visors looked awesome and had cool voice effects

All around cool set design (particularly the underwater base and lab where they "weaponize" the nano-warheads.)

Some actually impressive CGI from time to time

And it was never boring, great pacing from beginning to end

Some terrible casting in a couple of key roles and a few too many elements that just felt "rushed" will forever prevent ROC from being anything more than a serious mixed bag but there was still plenty to enjoy.

If I were making the sequel and had to use ROC as "Chapter 1" I'd immediately make it clear that SS was wrong in assuming that SE had taken a "vow of silence". Open with a flashback of SE getting scarred and saving Scarlett, reveal the Baroness to have faked being under "mind control" in order infiltrate GI Joe and kill Duke which she does successfully so a real actor can step in and lead the Joes in battle.

I'd have SE being all around more of a loose cannon than the subservient hero ROC made him out to be. I liked that in the comics he'd have a tendency to unload his Uzi into a valuable prisoner who looked at him crosseyed.

Recast Destro if Eccelston isn't under contract and replace Arnold Voslo with either Christian Bale or Billy Crudup as Zartan. For all we know Voslo could have been just another "disguise face" that he wore before becoming President.

Move Joe HQ to Staten Island (due to the Pit being compromised in Eqypt) and we're good to go!
 
I love the music in this. Best thing to come out of the movie.

But i'm biased. Anything NON CGI Zemeckis, Silvestri does,(aside from Beowulf, I do like that score)I love.
 
The Cobra weaponry was cool

A ton of references to the toon and comic book

Ray Park's gun and swordplay were fantastic

The guy who played Storm Shadow did a good job as well

The giant underwater pulse cannon was flat out awesome (great sound effects, the "recoil" looked cool, etc.)

The Night Raven and USS FLagg

Snake Eyes instantly hopping on a sled to detonate a Nano-missile seconds after it takes off

The Apache pilots in the beginning actually flew Apaches in real life and it showed in their jargon (which they provided) and demeanor

Lots of cool practical effects (cars flipping, buildings exploding, etc.)

Tatum's stuntman was a genuine badass who rushed the East Africa building as it exploded in an enormous real life fireball

Great intercutting between the underwater "space battle", SE/SS duel, and Night Raven

The Vipers with the visors looked awesome and had cool voice effects

All around cool set design (particularly the underwater base and lab where they "weaponize" the nano-warheads.)

Some actually impressive CGI from time to time

And it was never boring, great pacing from beginning to end

Some terrible casting in a couple of key roles and a few too many elements that just felt "rushed" will forever prevent ROC from being anything more than a serious mixed bag but there was still plenty to enjoy.

If I were making the sequel and had to use ROC as "Chapter 1" I'd immediately make it clear that SS was wrong in assuming that SE had taken a "vow of silence". Open with a flashback of SE getting scarred and saving Scarlett, reveal the Baroness to have faked being under "mind control" in order infiltrate GI Joe and kill Duke which she does successfully so a real actor can step in and lead the Joes in battle.

I'd have SE being all around more of a loose cannon than the subservient hero ROC made him out to be. I liked that in the comics he'd have a tendency to unload his Uzi into a valuable prisoner who looked at him crosseyed.

Recast Destro if Eccelston isn't under contract and replace Arnold Voslo with either Christian Bale or Billy Crudup as Zartan. For all we know Voslo could have been just another "disguise face" that he wore before becoming President.

Move Joe HQ to Staten Island (due to the Pit being compromised in Eqypt) and we're good to go!

What reference to the cartoon show (besides their names)?

Most of the Good Examples that you have stated are basically special effects. Special Effects dont make a movie good. Point is, the movie's story was weak and the action scenes were ridiculous. My accelerator suit doesnt do that many crazy things.
 
The Cobra weaponry was cool

A ton of references to the toon and comic book

Ray Park's gun and swordplay were fantastic

The guy who played Storm Shadow did a good job as well

The giant underwater pulse cannon was flat out awesome (great sound effects, the "recoil" looked cool, etc.)

The Night Raven and USS FLagg

Snake Eyes instantly hopping on a sled to detonate a Nano-missile seconds after it takes off

The Apache pilots in the beginning actually flew Apaches in real life and it showed in their jargon (which they provided) and demeanor

Lots of cool practical effects (cars flipping, buildings exploding, etc.)

Tatum's stuntman was a genuine badass who rushed the East Africa building as it exploded in an enormous real life fireball

Great intercutting between the underwater "space battle", SE/SS duel, and Night Raven

The Vipers with the visors looked awesome and had cool voice effects

All around cool set design (particularly the underwater base and lab where they "weaponize" the nano-warheads.)

Some actually impressive CGI from time to time

And it was never boring, great pacing from beginning to end

Some terrible casting in a couple of key roles and a few too many elements that just felt "rushed" will forever prevent ROC from being anything more than a serious mixed bag but there was still plenty to enjoy.

If I were making the sequel and had to use ROC as "Chapter 1" I'd immediately make it clear that SS was wrong in assuming that SE had taken a "vow of silence". Open with a flashback of SE getting scarred and saving Scarlett, reveal the Baroness to have faked being under "mind control" in order infiltrate GI Joe and kill Duke which she does successfully so a real actor can step in and lead the Joes in battle.

I'd have SE being all around more of a loose cannon than the subservient hero ROC made him out to be. I liked that in the comics he'd have a tendency to unload his Uzi into a valuable prisoner who looked at him crosseyed.

Recast Destro if Eccelston isn't under contract and replace Arnold Voslo with either Christian Bale or Billy Crudup as Zartan. For all we know Voslo could have been just another "disguise face" that he wore before becoming President.

Move Joe HQ to Staten Island (due to the Pit being compromised in Eqypt) and we're good to go!
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Seriously Khev . . . tell us how you really feel about the movie.

:)

With all due to respect . . . I know there are people who enjoyed and actually liked this film, but . . . for me . . . the film was a serious disrespect to a childhood icon/memory for me. Yes. I know this sounds totally retarded and silly@$$. Yes. I went in with the same attitude about TRANSFORMERS, but was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it. I just don't have the same attitude about GI JOE: ROC.

Sure, I picked up a few of their figures based on characters I like. I have no plans on buying the DVD to add it to my film collection. I respect other people enjoyed it and liked, but I did not care for the film because they got it wrong on many levels while trying to pay respects to the cartoon, comic series, and the original 3.75" toys.
 
The Cobra weaponry was cool

Not really. Realistically, the Joe team should've been obliterated with it.

A ton of references to the toon and comic book

Through god-awful, GOD AWFUL one-liners, like the "kung-fu grip" or "Real American Heroes," the latter completely irrelevant to the film considering the international foundation of the team. Further exemplified after that very scene when Hawk comes in and tells them that they've all been ordered back to their countries of origin. :monkey4

Ray Park's gun and swordplay were fantastic

Don't remember. I was too distracted by the Power Ranger bull**** they did, ruining his look.

The guy who played Storm Shadow did a good job as well

Which is so accurate considering Storm Shadow was Korean, right? :rolleyes: Hollywood pulled a "they all look alike" card and you fell for it. Congrats! There were no qualified Japanese actors?! :dunno

The giant underwater pulse cannon was flat out awesome (great sound effects, the "recoil" looked cool, etc.)

Sure, if you completely remove any sense of reality/physics from the equation. I suppose ice sinks too, right? :lol

The Night Raven and USS FLagg

Those two, I give you. But they don't redeem the movie.

Snake Eyes instantly hopping on a sled to detonate a Nano-missile seconds after it takes off

:lol No. He could've just fired it from the sled IN the cave instead of wasting precious time driving out 100 yards to shoot at it.

The Apache pilots in the beginning actually flew Apaches in real life and it showed in their jargon (which they provided) and demeanor

And? What's so special about that? I can get that from watching the Military Channel.

Lots of cool practical effects (cars flipping, buildings exploding, etc.)

Not practical, CGI. And it LOOKED like CGI. BAD CGI, like those horrible Block Buster Exclusive movies ala Transmorphers, Dragons, etc.

Tatum's stuntman was a genuine badass who rushed the East Africa building as it exploded in an enormous real life fireball

Scores fail points for being Channing's stunt man. He should've PLAYED Duke!

Great intercutting between the underwater "space battle", SE/SS duel, and Night Raven

If you say so. Cutting between two horrible scenes to "intensify" the action doesn't change the fact that it's cutting turds in half.

The Vipers with the visors looked awesome and had cool voice effects

But they didn't look like Vipers. :lol

All around cool set design (particularly the underwater base and lab where they "weaponize" the nano-warheads.)

For a SyFy movie, maybe. NOT for G.I. Joe.

Some actually impressive CGI from time to time

Need to get your eyes checked. I've seen better CGI in video games. :lol

And it was never boring, great pacing from beginning to end

If you say so. I was too annoyed by what I was being force fed to pay attention to the slaughtered source material.

Some terrible casting in a couple of key roles and a few too many elements that just felt "rushed" will forever prevent ROC from being anything more than a serious mixed bag but there was still plenty to enjoy.

Add just about everything else, poor director, ****** of a producer, etc., etc....

If I were making the sequel and had to use ROC as "Chapter 1" I'd immediately make it clear that SS was wrong in assuming that SE had taken a "vow of silence". Open with a flashback of SE getting scarred and saving Scarlett, reveal the Baroness to have faked being under "mind control" in order infiltrate GI Joe and kill Duke which she does successfully so a real actor can step in and lead the Joes in battle.

Doesn't change things. You can't write your way out of that without pulling a Dallas. The Baroness still loves Duke, they made that ABUNDANTLY clear, and Snake Eyes was still named for the single mole on each cheek. :monkey4

I'd have SE being all around more of a loose cannon than the subservient hero ROC made him out to be. I liked that in the comics he'd have a tendency to unload his Uzi into a valuable prisoner who looked at him crosseyed.

They pretty much ruined that aspect of the character. He was too "chummy" in the flick.

Recast Destro if Eccelston isn't under contract and replace Arnold Voslo with either Christian Bale or Billy Crudup as Zartan. For all we know Voslo could have been just another "disguise face" that he wore before becoming President.

Destro wasn't bad casting at all, just a poor script, a worse director and an incompetent producer who felt compelled to add in elements of Iron Man and RoboCop. As for Zartan, that was nothing short of a prison ass rape of the character. There's no way of digging out of that hole.

Move Joe HQ to Staten Island (due to the Pit being compromised in Eqypt) and we're good to go!

Not gonna happen. Remember, there's no such thing as "A Real American Hero" anymore in the Joe franchise. :monkey4




What reference to the cartoon show (besides their names)?

Most of the Good Examples that you have stated are basically special effects. Special Effects dont make a movie good. Point is, the movie's story was weak and the action scenes were ridiculous. My accelerator suit doesnt do that many crazy things.

What do you expect for $49.95 from Adam & Eve? You're lucky it has "tugging" action! :p
 
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What do you expect for $49.95 from Adam & Eve? You're lucky it has "tugging" action! :p


I meant my 1:1 Accelerator suit that I wear to combat evil. It does nothing like that what was shown in the movie. (it was a failed joke)

And I agree with the points you made replying to what Khev said. I hate it when they take things with years of back story and history and just say "Nah, lets not use any of this". Which is why the Dragonball: Evolution movie and Chun Li: Legend whatever , were so bad.
 
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