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Re: Gollum PF available NOW!, Link to buy in 1st post...

I say there will be plenty of cancels due to the learning curve with NRD. I think that:

1. Many still ordered out of habit. The $30 "pay to play" is nothing for some right now.

2. It feels as if Sideshow is still playing games with the low quantity alert bar, only in a more slow and calculated way.

yeah it makes me wonder also. one sure way to know is if the WL starts to convert prior to shipping. like you'd cancel and loose the NRD before the thing actually shippes:dunno
 
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I say there will be plenty of cancels due to the learning curve with NRD. I think that:

1. Many still ordered out of habit. The $30 "pay to play" is nothing for some right now.

2. It feels as if Sideshow is still playing games with the low quantity alert bar, only in a more slow and calculated way.

Unfortunately, your theory and many of the posts here and in the Hobgoblin thread seem to be in direct contradiction with one another. While there are numerous posts by collectors who held off or didn't order this PF at all because they just weren't sure they wanted it that badly, I have yet to see a single post by anyone to date who ordered it with the intention of deciding what to do later. I just don't see any evidence whatsoever where anyone is simply ordering out of habit, or is simply willing to throw away $30 for something they may or may not plan on keeping.

And the fact this PF took four days to sell out really doesn't do your theory any favours. This is a highly sought after LOTR character, one which had never been properly represented in statue form by any collectible company. Throw in two amazing sculpts as part of what has to be one of, if not the best excl. ever produced by SS. Then factor in a low ES of 500 with a 2/person limited and this piece never would have made to past Tues. if your theory held any water. :dunno
 
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Only time will tell. All we can do now is speculate. Besides, people here post Grail this and must buy that and in the end when the shipping notices for 5 items come all at once they sing a different tune. Take what you read now as an overall consensus with a grain of salt. Afterall, the LOTR line seems inconsistent and not as popular as some of the other licenses. When it comes time to choose Marvel or sexy pieces like Vampirella get picked over LOTR.

Just sayin'
 
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If I absolutely was forced to give up one of my preorders, Vampirella or Gollum, when shipping time came, Gollum would not get the axe. But that is me.
 
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Because it's in Gollum's stomach.......:lol



Nor was Gandalf walking down a flight stairs in the scene where his pose was taken from, or the ML weilding that horrific flaming sword on Pelennor Field....let's just call these screen accurate with some creative liberties thrown in for good measure. :)

Who's ML ?
 
Re: Gollum PF available NOW!, Link to buy in 1st post...

Only time will tell. All we can do now is speculate. Besides, people here post Grail this and must buy that and in the end when the shipping notices for 5 items come all at once they sing a different tune. Take what you read now as an overall consensus with a grain of salt. Afterall, the LOTR line seems inconsistent and not as popular as some of the other licenses. When it comes time to choose Marvel or sexy pieces like Vampirella get picked over LOTR.

Just sayin'

I don't think anyone living outside of a psych ward is going to compare LOTR's popularity to that of Marvel, SW, or soft porn [Vampirella]. Though with the amount of Marvel and SW items available for GC and 2nd chance opportunities one could hardly say those licences are thriving at the moment. And while the LOTR licence is extremely inconsistant in regard to item's produced [thank you SS! :rolleyes2], when SS does get around to producing PF's and statues the quality is usually excellent and sales pretty decent.
 
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I don't think anyone living outside of a psych ward is going to compare LOTR's popularity to that of Marvel, SW, or soft porn [Vampirella]. Though with the amount of Marvel and SW items available for GC and 2nd chance opportunities one could hardly say those licences are thriving at the moment. And while the LOTR licence is extremely inconsistant in regard to item's produced [thank you SS! :rolleyes2], when SS does get around to producing PF's and statues the quality is usually excellent and sales pretty decent.

while i agree with this, most of them piece are of course pre-NRD era. i don't think we'll be seeing much on the GC list anymore except for say some reg versions, but that's a differant cliental since they get mostly sold to retailers.

also i don't think any line that ssc has can compare to the LOTR line at it's peek. i mean 9500 ES's and sold out. :horrorthat's just amazing.
 
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I don't think anyone living outside of a psych ward is going to compare LOTR's popularity to that of Marvel, SW, or soft porn [Vampirella]. Though with the amount of Marvel and SW items available for GC and 2nd chance opportunities one could hardly say those licences are thriving at the moment. And while the LOTR licence is extremely inconsistant in regard to item's produced [thank you SS! :rolleyes2], when SS does get around to producing PF's and statues the quality is usually excellent and sales pretty decent.

Glad we agree on where LOTR collectibles stand in relation to other licenses so you can see where I am coming from with my theory on how this Gollum PF has actually sold regarding NRDs. I just don't buy that 500 sold in 4 days without a little help from the low quantity alert bar fairy creating some sort of urgency. Even then...how many of those "I gotta get it because it's a hot item and it's ALMOST GONE" will be kept in the end? What happens when you throw in the yet to be determined International ES?

There is a "learning curve" here and Gollum it's an experiment. Meaning that when it comes time to decide what to keep people will pay $30 to be reminded why they don't collect certain lines. LOTR seems to get more passes than the entire NFL line of receivers even with reasonable edition sizes AND decent quality compared to some Marvel stuff. Probably more passes across all it's product lines (PFs, dios, LSBs, etc) as most it's very much available and dead in the aftermarket.
 
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Glad we agree on where LOTR collectibles stand in relation to other licenses so you can see where I am coming from with my theory on how this Gollum PF has actually sold regarding NRDs. I just don't buy that 500 sold in 4 days without a little help from the low quantity alert bar fairy creating some sort of urgency. Even then...how many of those "I gotta get it because it's a hot item and it's ALMOST GONE" will be kept in the end? What happens when you throw in the yet to be determined International ES?
There is a "learning curve" here and Gollum it's an experiment. Meaning that when it comes time to decide what to keep people will pay $30 to be reminded why they don't collect certain lines. LOTR seems to get more passes than the entire NFL line of receivers even with reasonable edition sizes AND decent quality compared to some Marvel stuff. Probably more passes across all it's product lines (PFs, dios, LSBs, etc) as most it's very much available and dead in the aftermarket.

No doubt the low quality alert bar prompted some who were on the fence to "go for it" prior to the PF selling out. The fact that SS's been using it for years is a pretty good indication that it is an effective marketing tool. Still, no one put a gun to anyone's head and those who ordered Gollum did so of their own volition. As to how many of those last minute purchasers will end up keeping their order I cannot say, but I can guarantee that all those who cancel prior to shipping will be $30 poorer....and I don't think it's going to take people too long to figure out that ordering item's they're not 100% sold on is going to have negative financial consequences.

As for the International edition, I don't see how this is going to have any effect whatsoever on the US edition. First off, since there is nowhere else for US collectors to purchase this PF, other than directly through SS, it's a pretty safe bet that the overwhelming majority of buyer's are American. Secondly, I don't see International buyer's who have ordered Gollum directly through SS cancelling their orders unless they can save enough money in doing so to warrant the NRD penalty. Thirdly, I don't even know yet if the US and International editions are even the same. Dusty's comment on the two editions makes me wonder if the International edition includes the Smeagol torso, just as the International edition of PZ didn't include the switch-out hand. :dunno

Think of it as the Domestic Exclusive basically being the Sideshow Exclusive, and the International Edition being like a 'regular edition' which we don't actually sell on our site because it's specifically for our distributors. (unless there are a few left over after the distributors' sales orders are filled, like with the Patient Zero PF)
 
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I say there will be plenty of cancels due to the learning curve with NRD. I think that:

1. Many still ordered out of habit. The $30 "pay to play" is nothing for some right now.

2. It feels as if Sideshow is still playing games with the low quantity alert bar, only in a more slow and calculated way.

Learning curve with NRD? It's right there....$30 NRD. What's to learn?

I don't know what is so hard about believing this could sell out in a few days. The low ES, the fact that no outside seller other than SS in the US will have it, that some ordered 2 for two displays, Gollum being a baddie and The Hobbit starting production soon. All that factors in.
 
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Yeah NRD is fine with me. I feel that so, so many people actually just order any SS exclusive with no real intention of keeping their orders. They only do it because of the edition sizes mainly and then when it is ready to come out, they either cancel or re-sell in the aftermarket.

I'm fine with this system because it lets the true fans get what they want. You only pre-order if you truly want it.

Unless of course, one happens to be oversea's and has to deal with exchange rates and 9 month order-to-shipping time frames.

Lets say I order now, when our exchange rate is around even and I pay the NRD.
Then, come shipping notice, the exchange rate has dropped 30-40% (it can happen). One then either has to take the extra hit in cost or loose the NRD. So yes, it's all fine for people in the US, but makes for significant harder choices for international customers.
 
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Unless of course, one happens to be oversea's and has to deal with exchange rates and 9 month order-to-shipping time frames.

Lets say I order now, when our exchange rate is around even and I pay the NRD.
Then, come shipping notice, the exchange rate has dropped 30-40% (it can happen). One then either has to take the extra hit in cost or loose the NRD. So yes, it's all fine for people in the US, but makes for significant harder choices for international customers.

really that's a chance we all take as international customers.
 
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Unless of course, one happens to be oversea's and has to deal with exchange rates and 9 month order-to-shipping time frames.

Lets say I order now, when our exchange rate is around even and I pay the NRD.
Then, come shipping notice, the exchange rate has dropped 30-40% (it can happen). One then either has to take the extra hit in cost or loose the NRD. So yes, it's all fine for people in the US, but makes for significant harder choices for international customers.

I wonder if SS will let people pay now up front when the exchange rate is good? :pray: If that were the case - then :clap Correct me if i'm wrong but Weta Collectibles has allowed this?

Either way - I ordered this because there are only two characters two me that scream Hobbit and LotR and that is Gollum/Smeagol and Gandalf. With such a low Ed size I wanted to make sure I got Gollum and I think this is a Home Run for SS. Two torsos that when switched out totally change the tone of the piece - I think it's masterful.
 
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really that's a chance we all take as international customers.

Sure... but in the past, if it was much more then one expected or hoped for, you just cancelled when the shipping notice came.

Now, you can still do that, but it's going to cost you $30.
 
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One things for sure, Sideshow just made a cool $15,000.00 no matter what.
 
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Plus the $16,500 from Vampirella too, and whatever on the Hobgoblin so far...
 
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.....As for the International edition, I don't see how this is going to have any effect whatsoever on the US edition. First off, since there is nowhere else for US collectors to purchase this PF, other than directly through SS, it's a pretty safe bet that the overwhelming majority of buyer's are American. Secondly, I don't see International buyer's who have ordered Gollum directly through SS cancelling their orders unless they can save enough money in doing so to warrant the NRD penalty. Thirdly, I don't even know yet if the US and International editions are even the same. Dusty's comment on the two editions makes me wonder if the International edition includes the Smeagol torso, just as the International edition of PZ didn't include the switch-out hand. :dunno

IF this turns out to be the case I will be cancelling one of the 2 ordered given that I ordered it on the understanding I would be getting what was advertised. An edition of 500 with switch out torso, base etc. I would expect a full refund if this turns out to be how SS has planned to be a bit 'creative' in how it markets it's popular lines :dunno
 
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As for the International edition, I don't see how this is going to have any effect whatsoever on the US edition. First off, since there is nowhere else for US collectors to purchase this PF, other than directly through SS, it's a pretty safe bet that the overwhelming majority of buyer's are American. Secondly, I don't see International buyer's who have ordered Gollum directly through SS cancelling their orders unless they can save enough money in doing so to warrant the NRD penalty. Thirdly, I don't even know yet if the US and International editions are even the same. Dusty's comment on the two editions makes me wonder if the International edition includes the Smeagol torso, just as the International edition of PZ didn't include the switch-out hand. :dunno
IF this turns out to be the case I will be cancelling one of the 2 ordered given that I ordered it on the understanding I would be getting what was advertised. An edition of 500 with switch out torso, base etc. I would expect a full refund if this turns out to be how SS has planned to be a bit 'creative' in how it markets it's popular lines :dunno

I'm afraid you lost me there. If you've ordered two of these directly from SS then you already know exactly what you are getting...namely two torso's, two bases, and two nameplates. Why would you cancel one of those if the International version differs from the US version? :confused:

really that's a chance we all take as international customers.

Exactly, and it's a two way street. There are just as many times when I've ordered something from SS where the exchange rate was more favourable [to me] when I was billed than when I first ordered it....and I've yet to ever hear anyone complain when that's happened. :lol That is a gamble we as international customers all take, and SS can hardly be held responsible for fluctuations in global currencies. The bottom line is people have been ordering and cancelling SS item's for year's and the only thing that has accomplished is higher ES's, lower secondary market values, and a SS warehouse full of item's available for 2nd chance opportunities. If SS's new policy means lower ES's and more favourable secondary values then I'm all for it.
 
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