GOTHAM - BATMAN Prequel TV Series

[dw316]

Cool! Don't suppose you can find out if there's anyone making figures of the show?

That, unfortunately, I have no idea about. [emoji51] Probably marketing department.

 

[Jameson Rook]

How was tonight's episode? I'm gonna watch it later.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Episode 7 was better, but tonight's episode had some good moments. It was ok.

 

[JonWes]

I thought the most recent episode was pretty entertaining, really. One of the better ones overall. I hope Barbara keeps on walking...

 

[Scareb]

So we got both Roman Sionis AND Thomas Elliot tonight. That was interesting although it looks like they've changed up the relationship between Thomas Elliot and Bruce Wayne.

 

[EVILFACE]

Bruce, slapping like a girl.

 

[dw316]

I thought the most recent episode was pretty entertaining, really. One of the better ones overall. I hope Barbara keeps on walking...

Don't worry, Gordon's getting a new love interest soon...

 

[dw316]

So we got both Roman Sionis AND Thomas Elliot tonight. That was interesting although it looks like they've changed up the relationship between Thomas Elliot and Bruce Wayne.

Yep. Liked that Hush name drop. I think that was Roman's father, but I'm not 100% sure.

 

[The Ween]

Bruce, slapping like a girl.

Until later. What a difference a watch makes.

 

[JonWes]

Until later. What a difference a watch makes.

I was actually really confused about this. If Alfred would have taught him a few moves before hand, I'd get it. But why didn't he bust that out before?

Also, I found that whole scene a bit disturbing. While I generally like the characterization of Alfred here, I will say there's something slightly uncomfortable about having a rich kid have his manservant drive him to some guys house so he can beat him up. And then his manservant takes him out of ice cream. LOL. Now, don't get me wrong, we are clearly on Bruce's side, right? I mean, the other kid was making light of his parent's death and insulting his mom. And the other kid was clearly rich, too. But there was just something a bit creepy about that last scene in some way. I think partially because it highlights that, although what happened to Bruce was a tragedy, he also has all this power and wealth and resources at his disposal. He's not an underdog, really, by any stretch.

 

[Michael Crawford]

The scene with Bruce and Alfred was easily my favorite of the episode - another excellent episode overall - and maybe so far the best with Bruce period. They could go the route where Bruce wants to become a badass and Alfred whines about it, but instead, we see him stepping up to give Bruce the tools, at least to get started. A key aspect to Batman's persona is that Bruce realizes that its not just important for him to be able to kick butt, but that they also should fear him. He has to kick butt less if the world fears the Bat. Alfred planted that seed last night with his speech to Elliot.

This isn't Superman. There's a dark side to Bruce, and seeing that some of that comes from Alfred makes this a whole lot more interesting than some predictable situation where Alfred tells him he needs to go to anger management classes and learn to solve his problems with appropriate conflict resolution techniques.

 

[Darth Madden]

The scene with Bruce and Alfred was easily my favorite of the episode - another excellent episode overall - and maybe so far the best with Bruce period. They could go the route where Bruce wants to become a badass and Alfred whines about it, but instead, we see him stepping up to give Bruce the tools, at least to get started. A key aspect to Batman's persona is that Bruce realizes that its not just important for him to be able to kick butt, but that they also should fear him. He has to kick butt less if the world fears the Bat. Alfred planted that seed last night with his speech to Elliot.

This isn't Superman. There's a dark side to Bruce, and seeing that some of that comes from Alfred makes this a whole lot more interesting than some predictable situation where Alfred tells him he needs to go to anger management classes and learn to solve his problems with appropriate conflict resolution techniques.

I was kind of going back and forth with this. At first it did kind of bug me that Alfred would drive Bruce there and watch him kick the kids *** but then after thinking about it its probably what I would hope would happen if I was Alfred. We see bad situations all the time and everyone talks a good game “Oh, I would have kicked that dudes *** if I was there” and now we see somebody actually do it and it kind of feels good to finally see the punk get his and not just this “I forgive him” crap that happens way too much. I agree with you in that Alfred is starting to "plant a seed" of fear and I kind of like it.

 

[batfan08]

Honestly, I friggin' love this Alfred. This seems like a guy who would enable Bruce's war on crime. As much as I love comic Alfred, when you think of a man as proper and reasonable as he is, from a logical standpoint, Bruce never would have became Batman. He probably would've been ferrying him back and forth to the best psychiatrists in the world until he was a well adjusted young billionaire. This guy, though, he's proper, but there's a brutishness to him; just enough that I could see him manning the Batcave while Bruce pummels the ever living **** out of would-be rapists and muggers.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Honestly, I friggin' love this Alfred. This seems like a guy who would enable Bruce's war on crime. As much as I love comic Alfred, when you think of a man as proper and reasonable as he is, from a logical standpoint, Bruce never would have became Batman. He probably would've been ferrying him back and forth to the best psychiatrists in the world until he was a well adjusted young billionaire. This guy, though, he's proper, but there's a brutishness to him; just enough that I could see him manning the Batcave while Bruce pummels the ever living **** out of would-be rapists and muggers.

I think Gotham's Alfred, Penguin, and Falcone are the best live action versions of those characters that I've seen. I hated Falcone in Batman Begins, but the TV show version, really looks, sounds, and acts like a true Godfather. He seems smart, calculated, and classy, unlike the Begins version.

 

[gypsycatcha]

I hated Alfred at first. thought They had took him a step beyond Nolans Alfred and edging more towards Ray Winstone lol but he has really grown on me.

But if I do hear him say " where's ya tool ? " to Bruce, I will turn it off and go straight to bed!

 

[batfan08]

I think Gotham's Alfred, Penguin, and Falcone are the best live action versions of those characters that I've seen. I hated Falcone in Batman Begins, but the TV show version, really looks, sounds, and acts like a true Godfather. He seems smart, calculated, and classy, unlike the Begins version.

I don't know. Wilkinson's a first class actor, and I think his Falcone was great, but, ultimately, Falcone wasn't as integral to the plot of Begins as he is on Gotham. I think you hit the nail on the head with "The Godfather," though. Wilkinson went to the Soprano school of mobstering; all of the gangsters in the Nolan trilogy, really. Hell, the Chechen looked like he shopped at the same place, too.

They were more modern, I think. Maroni was more Gotti than Capone, if you will. Gotham has that "timelessness" that the Burton films had, so, you can have cops from the '70s, tech from the '90s, and mobsters from the '40s, and that whole criminal landscape lends itself well to that old school style.

 

[Mister Ski]

That kid who played Tommy Elliot deserved to be smacked even before he opened his mouth. That is great casting if you can hate a character just by looking at them.

 

[EVILFACE]

Wilkinson's Falcone speech to Bruce is what makes him awesome.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Way to go Bruce for punching Tommy Elliot with a watch. Ah, the memories of high school.. and the detention.

 

[batfan08]

Wilkinson's Falcone speech to Bruce is what makes him awesome.

QFT!

"You think, 'cause your mommy and your daddy got shot, you know about the ugly side of life, but you don't."