If you do Kyle though you would still have to explain where the ring came from and the history of the ring. I would think they would explain why there is no longer a GL Corps. I think for any of the GL's, the story needs a lot of explanation.
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If you do Kyle though you would still have to explain where the ring came from and the history of the ring. I would think they would explain why there is no longer a GL Corps. I think for any of the GL's, the story needs a lot of explanation.
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You could just explain that it was Parallax that wiped out the Corps (which technically is what happened in the comics)
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I really wanted to like Green Lantern. If you’ve been a reader for any amount of time you’ll know that I was very much a champion of the film leading up to release, so when the movie ended up being not very good at all I was completely bummed out.
There was a lot wrong with the film, but there are three things that really stuck out to me. Now that some of you (judging by the box office it’s only some – this movie is currently tanking when you look at its budget) have seen the film we can talk about them.
1) Coast City. Or rather, where is Coast City? One of the great things about the DC Universe is that it’s filled with unique fictional cities. Gotham and Metropolis are as famous as their superheroic defenders. Most of the big DC heroes have their own fictional city, and Green Lantern is no different. His city is called Coast City, and it’s sort of DC’s version of San Diego. Green Lantern is so identified with Coast City that, when the town was destroyed by the alien villain Mogul, Hal Jordan went nuts in an attempt to use his ring to bring it back and ended up wiping out most of the Green Lantern Corps and becoming the villain Parallax (yeah, that’s the name of the baddie in the movie, but Hal was Parallax first. It’s complicated and filled with retcons).
I’m not even sure I heard the words ‘Coast City’ at any point in the film. Green Lantern, near as I could tell, was set in a generic town. This is indicative of the film’s incredibly generic qualities. Having Coast City established might have made Parallax’s threat at the end feel a little more personal – a hero’s city is very much an extension of himself. Instead the giant cloud is attacking Some City, USA.
2) Blowing Hector Hammond. I don’t know a whole lot about Hector Hammond in the comics, but he’s wasted in the movie. First of all, Peter Sarsgaard gives a great performance, one of the all-time wonderful weird performances, as Hector, and he’s ill-served by the film. But even beyond that, the character is ill-served – we’re told that Hector and Hal and Carol were old friends, but we never see that. The film only introduces Hector when it’s time to start turning him into a villain, and it’s only because of Sarsgaard’s performance that any of it works at all.
But what’s really dumb is the way the movie makes him just the precursor to Parallax. That leaves the whole second act hanging. When Hal quits the Corps and returns to Earth it should be a REAL threat from Hector Hammond that forces him to use the ring again, not a rinky-dink helicopter crash. As it stands Hal has to overcome his crisis of self-confidence via… pep talks from his girlfriend. It would have been much more satisfying if he had learned those lessons about courage while battling Hammond, and then had to put them to the test in the final battle. Also, making Hammond the threat in the second act would have made him feel more separate as a character and not just the precursor to Parallax (ie, a time-waster in act three).
3) Sinestro’s turn to evil was moronic. If you stuck around through the first set of credits you saw a sequence where Sinestro takes the yellow ring and puts it on. Why? What’s the point of this? How does it make any sense? There’s simply no motivation – Hal Jordan just effectively proved to Sinestro that there was no reason to wield the yellow power of fear by taking on Parallax single-handedly*. In fact it seems like the only reason Sinestro puts on the ring is because that’s what happens in the comic and because fans have come to expect post-credits surprises.
Apparently there was a draft of the script where we learn Sinestro’s home world was destroyed by Parallax and the Guardians wouldn’t help, so in that draft his change of heart might have been slightly motivated. But that isn’t what’s on screen, and so that final bit plays out like ____ty, depraved fan service.
These certainly aren’t the only problems – how about Hal quitting the Corps for little to no reason after being on Oa for about fifteen minutes, or the movie’s infuriating tendency to keep returning to Hal’s apartment for pep talks and exposition – but they’re the things that really stick out to me a week after seeing the film. And now, because nobody could bother to get Green Lantern‘s script right, the very future of the DC Universe on film seems doubtful.
* Just a side note: the fact that the other Lanterns don’t get involved until the very end of that fight makes them look completely like dicks.
I really wanted to like Green Lantern. If you’ve been a reader for any amount of time you’ll know that I was very much a champion of the film leading up to release, so when the movie ended up being not very good at all I was completely bummed out.
There was a lot wrong with the film, but there are three things that really stuck out to me. Now that some of you (judging by the box office it’s only some – this movie is currently tanking when you look at its budget) have seen the film we can talk about them.
1) Coast City. Or rather, where is Coast City? One of the great things about the DC Universe is that it’s filled with unique fictional cities. Gotham and Metropolis are as famous as their superheroic defenders. Most of the big DC heroes have their own fictional city, and Green Lantern is no different. His city is called Coast City, and it’s sort of DC’s version of San Diego. Green Lantern is so identified with Coast City that, when the town was destroyed by the alien villain Mogul, Hal Jordan went nuts in an attempt to use his ring to bring it back and ended up wiping out most of the Green Lantern Corps and becoming the villain Parallax (yeah, that’s the name of the baddie in the movie, but Hal was Parallax first. It’s complicated and filled with retcons).
I’m not even sure I heard the words ‘Coast City’ at any point in the film. Green Lantern, near as I could tell, was set in a generic town. This is indicative of the film’s incredibly generic qualities. Having Coast City established might have made Parallax’s threat at the end feel a little more personal – a hero’s city is very much an extension of himself. Instead the giant cloud is attacking Some City, USA.
2) Blowing Hector Hammond. I don’t know a whole lot about Hector Hammond in the comics, but he’s wasted in the movie. First of all, Peter Sarsgaard gives a great performance, one of the all-time wonderful weird performances, as Hector, and he’s ill-served by the film. But even beyond that, the character is ill-served – we’re told that Hector and Hal and Carol were old friends, but we never see that. The film only introduces Hector when it’s time to start turning him into a villain, and it’s only because of Sarsgaard’s performance that any of it works at all.
But what’s really dumb is the way the movie makes him just the precursor to Parallax. That leaves the whole second act hanging. When Hal quits the Corps and returns to Earth it should be a REAL threat from Hector Hammond that forces him to use the ring again, not a rinky-dink helicopter crash. As it stands Hal has to overcome his crisis of self-confidence via… pep talks from his girlfriend. It would have been much more satisfying if he had learned those lessons about courage while battling Hammond, and then had to put them to the test in the final battle. Also, making Hammond the threat in the second act would have made him feel more separate as a character and not just the precursor to Parallax (ie, a time-waster in act three).
3) Sinestro’s turn to evil was moronic. If you stuck around through the first set of credits you saw a sequence where Sinestro takes the yellow ring and puts it on. Why? What’s the point of this? How does it make any sense? There’s simply no motivation – Hal Jordan just effectively proved to Sinestro that there was no reason to wield the yellow power of fear by taking on Parallax single-handedly*. In fact it seems like the only reason Sinestro puts on the ring is because that’s what happens in the comic and because fans have come to expect post-credits surprises.
Apparently there was a draft of the script where we learn Sinestro’s home world was destroyed by Parallax and the Guardians wouldn’t help, so in that draft his change of heart might have been slightly motivated. But that isn’t what’s on screen, and so that final bit plays out like ____ty, depraved fan service.
These certainly aren’t the only problems – how about Hal quitting the Corps for little to no reason after being on Oa for about fifteen minutes, or the movie’s infuriating tendency to keep returning to Hal’s apartment for pep talks and exposition – but they’re the things that really stick out to me a week after seeing the film. And now, because nobody could bother to get Green Lantern‘s script right, the very future of the DC Universe on film seems doubtful.
* Just a side note: the fact that the other Lanterns don’t get involved until the very end of that fight makes them look completely like dicks.
intothevoid
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I really enjoyed the film but I have to agree with this analysis - every point is spot on and had the movie addressed these points, it would have been a classic. As it is, it's just a fun popcorn flick which, for longtime fans, is a joy to behold simply to see these characters in a live action movie. But I don't think i'll be watching it on DVD/BluRay too much in the future.
Also - what in the world happened to the 'bar scene' where we were supposed to have seen a John Stewart cameo? Was that just a made up rumour / a dream I had / simply removed from the final cut??
Also - what in the world happened to the 'bar scene' where we were supposed to have seen a John Stewart cameo? Was that just a made up rumour / a dream I had / simply removed from the final cut??
jye4ever
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I'll have to admit that I really felt nothing for those Coast City Residents as they were scurring around like scared little ants, I wanted to see them all get squished.
They were just there as fodder to show that Parallax had Fear Food to munch on.
I like that...Fear Food
The funny part is, the movie can be ripped apart for everything it did wrong.......but I still had fun watching it, so it's a must own for me, definately will be in my movie collection
intothevoid
Super Freak
Oh I will own it for sure, just don't know how much i'll be rewatching it haha
hairlesswookiee
PALPATINE CRUSADER!!!!
I'd have to disagree with the Sinestro going evil part. We don't know that he will immediately turn evil once he puts the ring on. The Sinestro in the movie was definitely becoming obsessed with enforcing the Corps with any means necessary so yes, I do think he would be tempted to try the yellow ring on without the Guardian's permission.
intothevoid
Super Freak
Well I do think a subplot where paralax destroys sinestro's world (and sinestro is also shown to be a dictator on his own world) would have helped setup his story a lot better.
Of course if there is a sequel they could still do that via flashback.
Also did anyone else feel the scene where Sinestro leads his group of corps to attack paralax was severely underdeveloped? It just kind of came and went and couple of lanterns died ... i thought they could have added at least a few more minutes to that scene, accentuated the danger and drama
Of course if there is a sequel they could still do that via flashback.
Also did anyone else feel the scene where Sinestro leads his group of corps to attack paralax was severely underdeveloped? It just kind of came and went and couple of lanterns died ... i thought they could have added at least a few more minutes to that scene, accentuated the danger and drama
jye4ever
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I feel the same way, he presented enough of a frustration against the old farts on screen that I could buy him doing what he did.
Maybe he was just using Parallax as the excuse to have the ring be given to him anyways, he would go defeat the beast and then become the beast himself.
I don't know why this writer is shocked that a powerful person would want even more power.
Welcome to the real world pal, Absolute Power Corrupts....Absolutey!
Even for aliens
jye4ever
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Most definately, more battles would've been cool and that's one of them that should've definately been expanded upon.
I said from the beginning before this movie came out, I wanted to see a full on battle royale with all rings on deck!
Maybe the filmakers were afraid of showing a huge battle before Hal fought Parallax because they didn't want to diminish his heroics.
I see it differently though, I would've respected and been in awe of Hal even MORE if he kicked Parallax's ass after Parallax had kicked all their asses.
Or just have the GLC join Hal for an all out battle at the end, that's the one I really wanted to see
intothevoid
Super Freak
I guess that's what they were planning for a sequel but it doesn't really get much bigger than paralax in terms of GL villains requiring the full force of the GLC.
Perhaps they were (are) planning a larger scale war with the Sinestro Corps...
Perhaps they were (are) planning a larger scale war with the Sinestro Corps...
jye4ever
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Good Point.
Maybe the GLC will battle the mortgage crisis in the next movie, that's just as formidable an opponent as Parallax was, my house is worth ____ nowadays....help GLC
intothevoid
Super Freak
Hahahahah - ouch! Well as long as you don't have to sell the house, you're good 
The super hero summer continued with the third comic book film of the season debuting at number one as Green Lantern shot to the top of the box office with a less-than-stellar opening weekend of $52.7M, according to studio estimates. The pricey Warner Bros. release averaged $13,806 from 3,816 theaters including ones offering the PG-13 film in 3D with extra surcharges. Although the amount of the weekend take would be welcomed by most films, Lantern carried a reported pricetag of about $200M plus was backed by one of the most expensive marketing campaigns of any summer movie so far.
Directed by Martin Campbell (Goldeneye, Casino Royale), Green Lantern starred Ryan Reynolds as the title character and was panned by critics across the board. Moviegoers also were not impressed as the CinemaScore grade was only a B. Generally, a B+ or better indicates that a large segment enjoyed a film. Poor reviews and bad buzz led to instantly negative word-of-mouth which hurt ticket sales immediately.
Opening day Friday delivered a solid $21.6M including $3.35M from Thursday night's post-midnight shows. But Saturday fell a disturbing 22% to $16.8M and the studio is optimistically projecting a slim 15% Sunday decline to $14.3M helped in part by Father's Day. This summer's well-reviewed super hero films Thor and X-Men: First Class both fared better with audiences. Each dipped by only 8% on Saturday and scored a B+ CinemaScore. More students were out of school for Lantern's opening day, but the Saturday fall was still very troubling.
With bad reviews, an alarming Saturday decline, and a low audience score, it seems that Green Lantern will burn out quickly at the box office. Even 3D did not help too much as only 45% of the weekend gross came from those screens. That was a lower rate than Thor's 60% and The Green Hornet's 61% and more in line with the 46% of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. The Hal Jordan film played as expected to the demographic most familiar with the character - adult men. Males made up 64% of the crowd while 63% were over 25. Generating true excitement with teens and younger adults has been a consistent problem for all Hollywood studios this year.
For the Friday-to-Sunday opening weekend, Green Lantern managed to fall behind the $55.1M of the recent X-Men reboot from just two weeks ago and was far from the $65.7M bow of Thor from the first weekend of May. Moviegoers may only have an appetite for so many comic book flicks and three big ones within seven weeks may have been too much. Lantern had arguably the biggest character among the three and certainly the most starpower with Blake Lively, Tim Robbins, and the voice of Geoffrey Rush all in the same package. Next month's Captain America will face challenges of its own being another 3D introduction of a new big-screen hero.
Warner Bros. was keen on developing Green Lantern as a franchise that could spawn lucrative sequels in the years ahead. Those hopes, however, were not crushed this weekend as super hero films are designed to be rebooted over time. Superman, Batman, and The Hulk all saw their movie franchises crash and burn, only to be resurrected later with new directors and lead actors.
Overseas, Green Lantern debuted in a dozen or so markets - many small - and grossed a moderate $17M with about half of that coming from the U.K. and Russia. As a very American super hero character, it may not generate the types of numbers overseas that recent summer action tentpoles have.
Directed by Martin Campbell (Goldeneye, Casino Royale), Green Lantern starred Ryan Reynolds as the title character and was panned by critics across the board. Moviegoers also were not impressed as the CinemaScore grade was only a B. Generally, a B+ or better indicates that a large segment enjoyed a film. Poor reviews and bad buzz led to instantly negative word-of-mouth which hurt ticket sales immediately.
Opening day Friday delivered a solid $21.6M including $3.35M from Thursday night's post-midnight shows. But Saturday fell a disturbing 22% to $16.8M and the studio is optimistically projecting a slim 15% Sunday decline to $14.3M helped in part by Father's Day. This summer's well-reviewed super hero films Thor and X-Men: First Class both fared better with audiences. Each dipped by only 8% on Saturday and scored a B+ CinemaScore. More students were out of school for Lantern's opening day, but the Saturday fall was still very troubling.
With bad reviews, an alarming Saturday decline, and a low audience score, it seems that Green Lantern will burn out quickly at the box office. Even 3D did not help too much as only 45% of the weekend gross came from those screens. That was a lower rate than Thor's 60% and The Green Hornet's 61% and more in line with the 46% of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. The Hal Jordan film played as expected to the demographic most familiar with the character - adult men. Males made up 64% of the crowd while 63% were over 25. Generating true excitement with teens and younger adults has been a consistent problem for all Hollywood studios this year.
For the Friday-to-Sunday opening weekend, Green Lantern managed to fall behind the $55.1M of the recent X-Men reboot from just two weeks ago and was far from the $65.7M bow of Thor from the first weekend of May. Moviegoers may only have an appetite for so many comic book flicks and three big ones within seven weeks may have been too much. Lantern had arguably the biggest character among the three and certainly the most starpower with Blake Lively, Tim Robbins, and the voice of Geoffrey Rush all in the same package. Next month's Captain America will face challenges of its own being another 3D introduction of a new big-screen hero.
Warner Bros. was keen on developing Green Lantern as a franchise that could spawn lucrative sequels in the years ahead. Those hopes, however, were not crushed this weekend as super hero films are designed to be rebooted over time. Superman, Batman, and The Hulk all saw their movie franchises crash and burn, only to be resurrected later with new directors and lead actors.
Overseas, Green Lantern debuted in a dozen or so markets - many small - and grossed a moderate $17M with about half of that coming from the U.K. and Russia. As a very American super hero character, it may not generate the types of numbers overseas that recent summer action tentpoles have.
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Parallax never destroys Korugar. Sinestro being a dictator there is a fact and helps introduce Katma Tui but it's only a foil for the fall of him and really nothing more to note. He was fixated on preserving order in the his sector no matter what which could still be used. The modern Sinestro is obsessed with controlling Parallax, controlling the yellow power of Fear and becoming a ruler of it, showing it's strength, wanting to master it and utilize it to create harmony in the galaxies. Showing Krona as wanting to do the same and fail being overcome by Parallax and seeing Sinestro tempted to do the same is enough set up for a sequel. It's cleaner and more direct then having to explain Quard, having to explain the complex battle of Khund invasion where he was found out by the Guardians especially since they didn't really show off his strength in this.
None of that is essential for the Green Lantern version of Sinestro. It is very important for the Sinestro who is trying to prove that Fear is more powerful that Will despite recent events.
I'm telling you guys, light and dark side of the Force, easiest way to digest what the differences is.
jye4ever
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Parallax, Korugar. Sinestro, Katma, Tui, Krona, Quard, Khund, Guardians.
I just mentioned these 9 words to my wife and she shook her head and walked away with the laundry baskey saying something to the effect that now that I dragged her to go see GL with me last weekend, it's time for a girlee movie
Please please almighty god, please don't let it be the penguin movie
Why...why did I have to throw all these funny names at her...why
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From what I've read the jury isn't out on whether or not GL will continue. Warner Bros planned for this to be a third franchise tentpole to take the place of the expiring Harry Potter franchise and go along the Batman franchise which is coming to a close. They were hoping that Superman would do the same as well as the new reboot Batman to continue that angle. The Flash is nowhere near completion, it seems like Wonder Woman has been thrown to the back of the line. They may continue with one more film in the franchise just to try and save their investment it seems unless it really does horrible in the International Markets.
This will go the Tron: Legacy route it seems with Warners really waiting on DVD and merchandising releases to make a final decision.
If it doesn't, I fully expect a reboot after the next rebooted Batman which is tentatively looked at for 2014 or 2015 which which would mean somewhere in 2016 at the earliest. Five years to cleanse the general public palette and bring back something to compete against whatever Marvel is doing then.
Either way this isn't the last time you'll see a Ringslinger on screen, mark my words.
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