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I don't know what there was not to enjoy.

None of the new characters were likable to me.

I found the first three quarters a real drag.

I found the Halloween atmosphere to be nonexistent and it had very little to zero flavor IMO.

There were some good kills I guess, but overall it felt like nothing I haven't seen before. Combine that with my above issues and I walked out with practically nothing positive to say about it.

Where is jye to back me up? :lol
 
Well I just watched H2O the other night and I found that it has not held up well... Way too much of that 90's feel.

I liked the new film and don't know what there was not to enjoy. It was a bit slow in the beginning with some of the Strode family stuff and like I said I hated the Dr twist but it was all very entertaining to me.

I like Halloween 2 but the Hospital setting got boring really quick and Laurie is basically wasted.

I also never realized how much the sibling thing did hurt the series until I watched this new one.

Once you remove the sister aspect H78 really boils down to Annie being responsible for him coming after them lol

None of the new characters were likable to me.

I found the first three quarters a real drag.

I found the Halloween atmosphere to be nonexistent and it had very little to zero flavor IMO.

There were some good kills I guess, but overall it felt like nothing I haven't seen before. Combine that with my above issues and I walked out with practically nothing positive to say about it.

Where is jye to back me up? :lol

JAWS will pick his teeth with your opinion lol
 
Well I just watched H2O the other night and I found that it has not held up well... Way too much of that 90's feel.

I liked the new film and don't know what there was not to enjoy. It was a bit slow in the beginning with some of the Strode family stuff and like I said I hated the Dr twist but it was all very entertaining to me.

I like Halloween 2 but the Hospital setting got boring really quick and Laurie is basically wasted.

I also never realized how much the sibling thing did hurt the series until I watched this new one.

I mentioned everything in a long novel on here, so I don't want to get into it again. But it was slow through out. The plot was a blatant copy of all the movies in one. H20 was way better and out dated, the funny thing is H2 was far better and that was over 30 years old. The movie had forgettable characters, laughable at how bad the characters decisions were. The whole movie had bad decisions. So, I don't know what their was to like other than having a great mask. But nothing was innovative. It brought nothing new to the franchise. They erased the movies to copy them. Wtf is that. So, what was so innovating and great about it. The fact that it was bar far one of the worst written stories ever in the franchise? The movie itself was just bad. Carpenter brought life into it in part 2 a true sequel. This was a wanna be sequel little to late. I grew up with the original so I am as big of fan as anyone. But for you to say it was entertaining, made me laugh a little bit. It was was poorly executed almost every scene. The girl in the bathroom was a joke, she could have escaped but dumb decision of just screaming and not even helping her buddy out. Then the blonde girl trips over he own sock, wow great writing. I mean apart from it being so slow, it was just not a good movie. Their was no great battle between Micheal and Laurie, LS didn't have a great performance like some are saying. A great performance is Edward Norton in American history x or Denzel in training day, this was at best okay. Every character was bad and bland. Again brought nothing new to this dying franchise. Not to mention the worst ending to a H movie ever. I mean it was so laughable all the sudden the daughter is like "I tricked you." Then shoots him. I mean it was just bad! Any thing else you want to know I can think of many things, but tired of typing. Anyways,

I found nothing nothing enjoyable, again atmosphere was horrible no tension in the movie, it wasn't scary. They said he was suppose to be more human, that was just so wrong. He was more of a robot in this than most Halloween movies. At least H2 was a cool movie with atmosphere and great score and kills with a great Myers, and H20 had one of the best endings to a movie. See 2015-2018 is the year of boring movies being labeled as good. Outdated movies are more entertaining then this will ever be. I not once had goose bumps in the movie. Every other Myers movie brought me to that. If their were better decisions and over all better tension and atmosphere and made it very dark movie I would have loved it but, nothing had innovation, I mean he escapes from a bus again. Pple can not think outside the box, it felt so rushed. Anyways, you got me going lol. Anything else you want to know about it that was bad I can talk for hours about it. I saw it 3 times, one in the theater two at home to see if I liked anything about it or missed something, I didn't I was bored every time I sat through it!
 
Well I just watched H2O the other night and I found that it has not held up well... Way too much of that 90's feel.

I liked the new film and don't know what there was not to enjoy. It was a bit slow in the beginning with some of the Strode family stuff and like I said I hated the Dr twist but it was all very entertaining to me.

I like Halloween 2 but the Hospital setting got boring really quick and Laurie is basically wasted.

I also never realized how much the sibling thing did hurt the series until I watched this new one.

I actually like the hospital setting but other than that

:goodpost: :lecture
 
None of the new characters were likable to me.

I found the first three quarters a real drag.

I found the Halloween atmosphere to be nonexistent and it had very little to zero flavor IMO.

There were some good kills I guess, but overall it felt like nothing I haven't seen before. Combine that with my above issues and I walked out with practically nothing positive to say about it.

Where is jye to back me up? :lol

Halloween has never been about the kills IMO... At least not the first film... Having said that I thought the kills in this film were fine overall. Personally I loved the girl who was baby sitting the black kid. Thought she was funny and very attractive :). I didn't like her boyfriend at first but he was fine by the end.

Only character I did not like at all was the fat friend... It was weird that the one "boy friend" never got killed.

All in all I thought the characters were fine.. Especially if we are talking about the Halloween movies. Other then the first film I would not say that the Halloween films have been rich in characters.. The 4th and 5th did have Jamie but it pretty much ends there.. Loomis was a bit too goofy in those. Part 2 had the nice boy who Liked Lorie but the rest were cannon fodder.

As for the Halloween night feel.. Hmmm.. I would have to watch it again. I don't think I thought much of it either so you may have a point there. However Non of the sequels or remakes really have that feeling either.

I do remember loving Michael's killing spree in Haddonfield on Halloween night in the new film.. Felt plenty like Halloween night them :)

Sorry you did not like it... I thought it was a quality Halloween Sequel.
 
Once you remove the sister aspect H78 really boils down to Annie being responsible for him coming after them lol

Not so sure about that... Michael seemed to get preoccupied by Laurie after she delivered the keys to her house. He sat outside her school and was following her around.. No question Annie added fuel to the fire :lol


JAWS will pick his teeth with your opinion lol

Nah.. Its not a good enough film to fully defend.. I will have to see if it gets better or worse with repeat viewings.
 
Not so sure about that... Michael seemed to get preoccupied by Laurie after she delivered the keys to her house. He sat outside her school and was following her around.. No question Annie added fuel to the fire :lol




Nah.. Its not a good enough film to fully defend.. I will have to see if it gets better or worse with repeat viewings.

Yeah I guess you’re right keys first then gasoline lol
 
But nothing was innovative. It brought nothing new to the franchise. They erased the movies to copy them. Wtf is that. So, what was so innovating and great about it. The fact that it was bar far one of the worst written stories ever in the franchise?

Lets not forget that H20 erased movies also... Why do these films keep erasing earlier sequels? Because non of them are that good. Part 2 gets a pass from me because it takes place on the same night and has all the same characters.. There is nothing scary or original about it. Its a continuation. Which for me was good enough. But its nowhere near the original.

The movie itself was just bad. Carpenter brought life into it in part 2 a true sequel. This was a wanna be sequel little to late. I grew up with the original so I am as big of fan as anyone. But for you to say it was entertaining, made me laugh a little bit.

Glad I gave you a chuckle :)

It was was poorly executed almost every scene. The girl in the bathroom was a joke, she could have escaped but dumb decision of just screaming and not even helping her buddy out. Then the blonde girl trips over he own sock, wow great writing. I mean apart from it being so slow, it was just not a good movie. Their was no great battle between Micheal and Laurie, LS didn't have a great performance like some are saying. A great performance is Edward Norton in American history x or Denzel in training day, this was at best okay.

All I can say my friend is

1. We are discussing the 11th film in a franchise. 10 if you don't count part 3. I am not looking for American History X type performances. Having said that Jamie Lee was very good and very solid. Other then the Dr. so was the rest of the cast IMO. Nothing great but as good as and better then most the other films.

2. You might want to go and watch the other films again. If you are concerned about imaginative kills then you may want to look elsewhere in another franchise. Me personally I want some suspense and I got a bit of it in this film. I thought the only other Halloween sequel that offered true suspense was part 5 when Jamie was in the Laundry shoot. Other then that the Halloween sequels are pretty average in the kills and suspense department. I still enjoy them as a series. Mostly because they take place on Halloween night.


To your point about no good showdown.. Laurie and Michael never got a good stand off in Part 2 (god she was a wasted character in that one) and H20 has some moments but it really does take too long to get there. This film did it just fine and it took more then just Laurie to beat Michael.. Which was a good thing IMO.

As for the new film. I personally liked the bathroom scene as I thought it was brutal.. Yeah she could of screamed but that did not effect me in the least. I still thought the film brought some suspense because the scene was well executed. Also I thought as a whole these characters felt for the most part real and likable. I really liked the babysitter girl and the boy she was watching, her boyfriend turned out to be OK, Laurie was good, I thought her daughter was very realistic in her reactions to her. Only characters I did not care for where the Dr. and the fat friend who was hitting on Laurie's granddaughter.

Not to mention the worst ending to a H movie ever. I mean it was so laughable all the sudden the daughter is like "I tricked you." Then shoots him. I mean it was just bad!

Cant disagree with you anymore then this comment. I have yet to talk to anyone who did not think the "Gotcha" part was not great. IMO it was a great moment to show how evil and ******* Michael was... He comes out from hiding when he thinks he has a victim on his hands.. Sure Michael is pure evil but he is still just ****. Loved it. It went from a cliché scene of daughter crying she cant shoot the killer that has been done so many times (Hell even Laurie keeps throwing down the knife in the original) to shooting him like the little bad *** she was brought up to be.

Great stuff.

Again I think you should go revisit part 4,5,6, Resurrection and part 2 remake if you want to see some bad endings.

I found nothing nothing enjoyable, again atmosphere was horrible no tension in the movie, it wasn't scary. They said he was suppose to be more human, that was just so wrong. He was more of a robot in this than most Halloween movies. At least H2 was a cool movie with atmosphere and great score and kills with a great Myers, and H20 had one of the best endings to a movie. See 2015-2018 is the year of boring movies being labeled as good. Outdated movies are more entertaining then this will ever be. I not once had goose bumps in the movie. Every other Myers movie brought me to that. If their were better decisions and over all better tension and atmosphere and made it very dark movie I would have loved it but, nothing had innovation, I mean he escapes from a bus again. Pple can not think outside the box, it felt so rushed. Anyways, you got me going lol. Anything else you want to know about it that was bad I can talk for hours about it. I saw it 3 times, one in the theater two at home to see if I liked anything about it or missed something, I didn't I was bored every time I sat through it!

We are just going to have to disagree.. I liked Michael in this film and thought he was as close to being like the original Michael then any of the other films. Again much of that has too do with the fact that he came across as just evil. My above example is a good way to show how he was more human other then a robot (like 2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 who did not worry if he was shot, stabbed, or if a glass door was in the way, or if he was on fire, or whatever in all the sequels..

Having said all this.. While I like Michael he is not a horror hero to me like say Jason is... I like the characters too much in the original and this new one to root for him.. and other then part 2 the other films are not well made enough for me to care about the character of Michael who is, in those films, Michael in name and poorly done mask only.

Sorry you did not like the film... At least you have 10 others. :)
 
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JAWS is heavyweight champion when it comes to movie knowledge and breakdowns. He would take on Khev and jye in the TLJ threads with his hands behind his back for Pete's sake. :lol
 
Damn JAWS really making me reconsider :lol

Everything JAWS just said about all the sequels is 100% accurate for me.


99% of the time we agree.. I guess H18 is part of the 1% :lol

JAWS is heavyweight champion when it comes to movie knowledge and breakdowns. He would take on Khev and jye in the TLJ threads with his hands behind his back for Pete's sake. :lol

You just feel that way because you agree with me.... But your right :lol

Yeah JAWS is da man :lol

Aw shucks... Imagine if my writing skills were better :lol

Khev and Jye rule in that department.. They dissect things and do a great job of getting their point across.... As well as others (Wor Gar and Difabio come to mind)

I reread my stuff and I have to laugh as they sound like the ramblings of a mad man. :lol
 
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Lets not forget that H20 erased movies also... Why do these films keep erasing earlier sequels? Because non of them are that good. Part 2 gets a pass from me because it takes place on the same night and has all the same characters.. There is nothing scary or original about it. Its a continuation. Which for me was good enough. But its nowhere near the original.



Glad I gave you a chuckle :)



All I can say my friend is

1. We are discussing the 11th film in a franchise. 10 if you don't count part 3. I am not looking for American History X type performances. Having said that Jamie Lee was very good and very solid. Other then the Dr. so was the rest of the cast IMO. Nothing great but as good as and better then most the other films.

2. You might want to go and watch the other films again. If you are concerned about imaginative kills then you may want to look elsewhere in another franchise. Me personally I want some suspense and I got a bit of it in this film. I thought the only other Halloween sequel that offered true suspense was part 5 when Jamie was in the Laundry shoot. Other then that the Halloween sequels are pretty average in the kills and suspense department. I still enjoy them as a series. Mostly because they take place on Halloween night.


To your point about no good showdown.. Laurie and Michael never got a good stand off in Part 2 (god she was a wasted character in that one) and H20 has some moments but it really does take too long to get there. This film did it just fine and it took more then just Laurie to beat Michael.. Which was a good thing IMO.

As for the new film. I personally liked the bathroom scene as I thought it was brutal.. Yeah she could of screamed but that did not effect me in the least. I still thought the film brought some suspense because the scene was well executed. Also I thought as a whole these characters felt for the most part real and likable. I really liked the babysitter girl and the boy she was watching, her boyfriend turned out to be OK, Laurie was good, I thought her daughter was very realistic in her reactions to her. Only characters I did not care for where the Dr. and the fat friend who was hitting on Laurie's granddaughter.



Cant disagree with you anymore then this comment. I have yet to talk to anyone who did not think the "Gotcha" part was not great. IMO it was a great moment to show how evil and ******* Michael was... He comes out from hiding when he thinks he has a victim on his hands.. Sure Michael is pure evil but he is still just ****. Loved it. It went from a cliché scene of daughter crying she cant shoot the killer that has been done so many times (Hell even Laurie keeps throwing down the knife in the original) to shooting him like the little bad *** she was brought up to be.

Great stuff.

Again I think you should go revisit part 4,5,6, Resurrection and part 2 remake if you want to see some bad endings.



We are just going to have to disagree.. I liked Michael in this film and thought he was as close to being like the original Michael then any of the other films. Again much of that has too do with the fact that he came across as just evil. My above example is a good way to show how he was more human other then a robot (like 2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 who did not worry if he was shot, stabbed, or if a glass door was in the way, or if he was on fire, or whatever in all the sequels..

Having said all this.. While I like Michael he is not a horror hero to me like say Jason is... I like the characters too much in the original and this new one to root for him.. and other then part 2 the other films are not well made enough for me to care about the character of Michael who is, in those films, Michael in name and poorly done mask only.

Sorry you did not like the film... At least you have 10 others. :)


No you made your point. I just felt the movie failed at to many things than bringing something new to the genera. It was very slow. This film just fits in with all the sequels. So, that is why I put it like this H1,H2, H4 H20, then Halloween 2018. Now if they brought innovation I would have liked it, and if it was dark. I just found nothing to like. Anyways, it is what it is. I agree about poorly done mask in all of them after H2. Even though I liked 6 because I went back east for Halloween and saw it in the theater and it hit the atmospheric part. The production cut was well done, but the movie has some bad flaws. Anyways, those can all be over looked to me if it was entertaining, and I found H2018 not to be. But again everyone is different. I wanted it to be over after h20, it should have. Now we are going to get more useless Halloween sequels. Anyways, the true movies to me are one and two all others, can vanish. Anyways, no worries. I just am trying to understand what was so great about it. I just can not find anything. Anyways, Peace bud! At least you can have an adult conversation, some others get personal about it to those who dislike it. So, I thank you for acting like a man!

However, I never said H4 H5 and H6 had good endings but they were fan more entertaining. Like I said none were truly good other than H1 and H2. I could really break down this movie like you did, but what is the point we disagree, plus I hate cheesy movies, and I found many scenes cheesy. If you want me to go further I can about what was bad. But it takes forever and I did it previously, but had more to say, but I just don't want to go down that road any more.
 
No you made your point. I just felt the movie failed at to many things than bringing something new to the genera. It was very slow. This film just fits in with all the sequels. So, that is why I put it like this H1,H2, H4 H20, then Halloween 2018. Now if they brought innovation I would have liked it, and if it was dark. I just found nothing to like. Anyways, it is what it is. I agree about poorly done mask in all of them after H2. Even though I liked 6 because I went back east for Halloween and saw it in the theater and it hit the atmospheric part. The production cut was well done, but the movie has some bad flaws. Anyways, those can all be over looked to me if it was entertaining, and I found H2018 not to be. But again everyone is different. I wanted it to be over after h20, it should have. Now we are going to get more useless Halloween sequels. Anyways, the true movies to me are one and two all others, can vanish. Anyways, no worries. I just am trying to understand what was so great about it. I just can not find anything. Anyways, Peace bud! At least you can have an adult conversation, some others get personal about it to those who dislike it. So, I thank you for acting like a man!

However, I never said H4 H5 and H6 had good endings but they were fan more entertaining. Like I said none were truly good other than H1 and H2. I could really break down this movie like you did, but what is the point we disagree, plus I hate cheesy movies, and I found many scenes cheesy. If you want me to go further I can about what was bad. But it takes forever and I did it previously, but had more to say, but I just don't want to go down that road any more.

I said in an earlier post that its not that I think this film is all that great. I liked it.. But IMO its not like it has that much competition in the series. Other then H2 and H18 I find all others to be average to below average. The one thing that I found the new film to do that no other sequel did was to make Michael scary and suspenseful again.. It may not have worked for you but it did for me.

I also like the music in this one. I was glad that they got away from using just Halloween music.. Sometimes that ruins the effect as it has become a bit cliché over all these years.
 
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JAWS is on the right track here.

Depends what 18 is being compared to.

Outside of 78/81 18 is better I guess than all the others although RZ are a guilty pleasure of mine just because they’re brutal slasher movies not so much good Halloween movies.

But 18 is no 78 and maybe i’ll tie it with 81 although the kills in 18 are far superior than even 81.

My head hurts Halloween is over right lol
 
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JAWS is on the right track here c

Depends what 18 is being compared to.

Outside of 78/81 18 is better I guess than all the others although RZ are a guilty pleasure of mine just because they’re brutal slasher movies not so much good Halloween movies.

But 18 is no 78 and maybe i’ll tie it with 81 although the kills in 18 are far superior than even 81.

My head hurts Halloween is over right lol

I get they needed to hype the movie, but part of me feels like all the ‘78 traits they did bring back, should have been a secret and a surprise in the theater. We were set up to go in looking for a ‘78 style film because of all the talk before release, almost like all the Godzilla 2014 press kept talking about roots, and the result is when the final product doesn’t match your anticipation, you tend to think the final product is no good simply because it’s not what you expected. Once you set that aside, you can start appreciating what you got.
 
Yep, JAWS is the man. :exactly:

But no one top's jye's enthusiasm for a great theatrical experience.

ajp's SW commentary is first rate.

Junkion and karamazov are the funniest roasters around, even at the expense of film's I love, lol.

a-dev is as likable as I wish I was.

cerealkeller, rushmore, Wor-Gar, Prime Clone, Bravomite, Neal136, punisher1974, xipotec, and more. Just a great group right now. :duff

I even miss SNIKT.

And a shout out to Snoop of course for holding down the fort. :rock
 
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