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I'm still hooked. Hiro in ancient Japan doesn't interest me at all though. His story has a kind of Hurcules/Xena vibe to it for me right now. Too hokey.:monkey4 But the rest is great, even Claire's story.
And yeah, what's up with crispy Nathan? I haven't figured that out yet.

Crispy Nathan kinda reminds me of two face.
 
I'm still hooked. Hiro in ancient Japan doesn't interest me at all though. His story has a kind of Hurcules/Xena vibe to it for me right now. Too hokey.:monkey4 But the rest is great, even Claire's story.
And yeah, what's up with crispy Nathan? I haven't figured that out yet.

I'm curious to see how Hiro's story plays out because I really think it is going to collide with the present day plots.

Is that Crispy Nathan? I thought Nathan was seeing Crispy Peter.

And what's happened to the virus storyline? I know it's been mentioned here and there, but this is supposedly a massive chunk of Season 2's storyline!! Seems as though it should have been more predominant.
 
Crispy Nathan kinda reminds me of two face.

Got that right. I assume he got burnt in the explosian but the fact his crispy side is only seen by him in the mirror and his battle with his crispy counterpart while being influenced by the nightmare man has got me really confused.

I'm curious to see how Hiro's story plays out because I really think it is going to collide with the present day plots.

Is that Crispy Nathan? I thought Nathan was seeing Crispy Peter.

I'm pretty sure it's Nathan and not Peter.
 
What is the big deal with Kristen Bell???

I agree, don't get it either... but don't really care. She so far seems like another fairly cheesey character. But maybe we'll at least get some good battles out of her.

I did like the episode last night more than the previous ones... at least there were some interesting parts. I especially thought the nightmare battle sequence was pretty good.
 
I'm curious to see how Hiro's story plays out because I really think it is going to collide with the present day plots.

Is that Crispy Nathan? I thought Nathan was seeing Crispy Peter.

And what's happened to the virus storyline? I know it's been mentioned here and there, but this is supposedly a massive chunk of Season 2's storyline!! Seems as though it should have been more predominant.


It is Nathan why he keeps seeing himself like that I don't know. Maybe some guilt complex about most likely dropping peter.

crispynathan.jpg
 
If Nathan caught that much of Peter exploding how did he heal? Does his mother have the same power as Linderman maybe?

And the appeal of Kristen Bell was that she was Veronica Mars - she's smart, sexy and cute without the "better-than-thou" attitude of SMG.
 
If Nathan caught that much of Peter exploding how did he heal? Does his mother have the same power as Linderman maybe?

And the appeal of Kristen Bell was that she was Veronica Mars - she's smart, sexy and cute without the "better-than-thou" attitude of SMG.

She (Kristen) kinda played herself from Veronica Mars, same attitude but with an evil slant...I'm about 1/4th of the way through season two of Veronica Mars and while its pretty good, I don't think it can hold a candle to Buffy.

Last nights episode of Heroes needed to go a bit quicker, is it me or is every vignette about 5 minutes long then commercial, it's pretty annoying. I like the show but the multiple characters are starting to get to me.

Another thing my wife and I couldn't figure out if Parkman's father is really the evil guy or just a weasel on the run.


Evan
 
She (Kristen) kinda played herself from Veronica Mars, same attitude but with an evil slant...I'm about 1/4th of the way through season two of Veronica Mars and while its pretty good, I don't think it can hold a candle to Buffy.

Last nights episode of Heroes needed to go a bit quicker, is it me or is every vignette about 5 minutes long then commercial, it's pretty annoying. I like the show but the multiple characters are starting to get to me.

Another thing my wife and I couldn't figure out if Parkman's father is really the evil guy or just a weasel on the run.


Evan

I normally watch it on Netflix or NBC.com. Netflix is great no commercials at all. NBC.com has commercials but they are not that bad.

Parkman's old man I think is just a sleazy weasel on the run and knows his number is up.
 
Parkman's dad seems to be truly evil. He trapped Matt and Nathan in nightmares and Molly had said that he made Sylar look like a *****cat. I think we've found at least part of the season's big bad.

And Kristen did play Veronica, but that's probably what they told her to do.
 
I was actually a little bored with last nights episode, but I may have just been really tired. Parkman and Nathan fighting each other was really cool. They did something like that in a Star Wars book. I'm thinking that crispy Nathan may be something like Niki and her alter, Two-Face is a good possiblity too.

I have a hard time seeing Parkman's dad as the big bad guy. Like a couple others said, he strikes me much more weasely. But Molly seems to think he's the nightmare man so I'm not sure how she could be wrong...
 
Parkman's dad seems to be truly evil. He trapped Matt and Nathan in nightmares and Molly had said that he made Sylar look like a *****cat. I think we've found at least part of the season's big bad.

And Kristen did play Veronica, but that's probably what they told her to do.


I think Molly's main fear of Parkman's dad is he gives her nightmares and he knows when she is looking for him and he can see her. For a little girl who can find anybody in the world without them knowing but that one guy powers trump hers that's pretty freaky. I am not saying he is a nice guy by any stretch but I don't think he is going to turn out to be the guy behind the killings.
 
Oh, Bob, that answers my question of how she could be wrong. Parkman's dad can use his power to unlock people's nightmares (like Nathan's Crispy Alter and Parkman being locked in jail after abandoning his baby), so when Molly looks for him, he protects himself by unlocking her biggest fears and she attributes the scary things she sees as being a part of him, but in reality its her own imagination. After all, aren't the scariest things in the world inside ourselves?
 
Oh, Bob, that answers my question of how she could be wrong. Parkman's dad can use his power to unlock people's nightmares (like Nathan's Crispy Alter and Parkman being locked in jail after abandoning his baby), so when Molly looks for him, he protects himself by unlocking her biggest fears and she attributes the scary things she sees as being a part of him, but in reality its her own imagination. After all, aren't the scariest things in the world inside ourselves?


Thank you for getting that from my post that is what I was trying to say LOL
 
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That theory does make sense! I think he could be a pretty cool badguy... especially since he is so unassuming looking.
 
Entertainment Weekly is not enjoying season two:

This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week.

NBC's once-inventive series is in a creative sinkhole. Frenetic but bizarrely repetitive, the drama bores from myriad worldwide locales that all look like the backlot of M*A*S*H. Season 2 sees previous standout heroes — unkillable Claire, time-freezing Hiro — gone solo in their own painful, stagnant story lines. Claire is living undercover in California, her now saintlike dad (Jack Coleman) repeatedly warning her not to be interesting. Mission accomplished! Claire's been saddled with a laser-eyed beau (Rocket Science's Nicholas D'Agosto) who also has powers — he can fly, with the aid of mediocre special effects. (The writers think we should be dazzled by this ''flying'' business, forgetting that people took to the air repeatedly last season.) In an even more labored plot, Hiro has landed in 17th-century Japan, where he finds his idol, the samurai Kensei (Alias' David Anders), and falls in love with an anachronistically spunky heroine (a must in the time-travel genre). That's right, Hiro — the most neutered TV character since Screech — is remaining in feudal Japan to ogle a babe. Stripped of any genuine mission, he now has little to do but smile like an adorable, gassy baby. It's increasingly unbearable.

Which is a good phrase to describe Heroes itself. With its larger mythology shunted to the side (no, a mysterious recurring symbol doth not a uniting backstory make), Heroes feels less like Heroes than a horrid combination of T.J. Hooker and Charlie's Angels: Peter Petrelli (Milo Ventimiglia) commits holdups in Ireland; another extraneous new hero, New Orleanian Monica (The Nine's Dana Davis) is roundhouse-kicking robbers; serial-killing Sylar (Zachary Quinto) has gone fugitive with the weeping twins. What happened to...saving the planet? Like the endangered Earth that's oft alluded to, Heroes is degrading at a remarkable pace: The dialogue has gone from comic-book cool to Dick-and-Jane obvious, the stylistic angles have turned flat, entire scenes are devoted to Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) and Parkman (Greg Grunberg) bickering around their shared apartment like maiden aunts. It's a sad day for superheroes when you find yourself actually rooting for the end of the world. C-
 
another extraneous new hero, New Orleanian Monica

The GREATEST description of her that I've heard.

Friends and I are almost to the end of the show, it's just so BAD! And they prompt the scrumptous Kristen Bell for her to be in it for 2 minutes.......

Read this, thought it was pretty good..

if they had better writers. All the ideas are good but the execution is mind bogglingly bad. Micah's power could be cool. Showing him stealing cable twice (let alone once) is an incredible waste of valuable air time. Visual mimicking as a power is a good idea. Making roses out of vegetables and doing double dutch as a means of telling us her power is beyond dumb. Giving the all powerful Peter amnesia is a good idea. Making a big deal about that stupid box and stretching that bad idea over several shows is a storytelling crime. Self healing is an awesome super power. Having Claire acting like a really dumb teenager and giving her atrocious dialog is painful. The Kensei storyline is a unique twist but they've stretched that out way more then it should've been. And so on and so on. They're focusing too much time on small and/or non-essential things instead of moving the story forward with big events. Also, personally I think they wasted the best opportunities for making a great, big epic show by sort of killing off Sulu and Linderman and doing very little with The Company but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have something big planned... Heroes is filled with exciting, cool ideas and great opportunities to make an awesome show but they just can't seem to deliver. The awkward/lame situations, the dialog, the pacing are all hurting the show. For a show that has more characters than it needs all with their own complex story lines, they shouldn't be wasting the limited 45-ish minutes or so allotted to each episode on nonsense. All the unnecessary "filler" is one of the reasons why it feels like nothing is happening. The acting can be bad at times but is within the bounds of being forgivable if the writing weren't so bad. Please. Someone. Please fix this. Please.
 
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The GREATEST description of her that I've heard.

Friends and I are almost to the end of the show, it's just so BAD! And they prompt the scrumptous Kristen Bell for her to be in it for 2 minutes.......

Read this, thought it was pretty good..

That quote was pretty interesting. Where did it come from?
 
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