Heroes- Now with spoilers!

[IrishJedi]

And my wife is hung up on the fact that if Future Peter has healing powers, then he shouldn't have that scar. That's bugging her...

Tim Kring stated in the SDCC '07 Q&A that there is a reason that he has a scar despite his healing ability and that it will be explained at some point.

 

[galactiboy]

THANK YOU. I knew he did but I couldnt remember how!

I forgot about that scene too...

 

[Agent0028]

Peter was able to make his scar disappear (or at least not be visible to others) could he make Peter look like Jesse without actually mind swapping?

BTW Ever notice how we tend to overanalyze things?

 

[Sick Boy 82]

BTW Ever notice how we tend to overanalyze things?

Seriously. It's just a TV, a form of entertainment. Sometimes it gets so broken down and analized that it's no longer fun to watch.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Seriously. It's just a TV, a form of entertainment. Sometimes it gets so broken down and analized that it's no longer fun to watch.

LOL. I said something like this a page ago back, but I deleted it because I didn't want to elaborate, but basically, for the sake of the show being enjoyable you need to not worry about theories of time and what not.

Yeah, Future Peter could have gone back to the first episode and prevented everything, but that would make for a pretty short tv series wouldn't it?

 

[Darklord Dave]

The writers care more about the drama and how the characters interact more than than the mechanics of time travel or continuity issues. But I think that having too many WTF moments takes the audience out of the drama and spoils the experience. However I'm sure they'll build in explanations for the most glaring things - like what's with the scar and where's Peter's body.

 

[Darth Caedus]

Tim Kring stated in the SDCC '07 Q&A that there is a reason that he has a scar despite his healing ability and that it will be explained at some point.

Maybe Peter injured himself, like Present-Peter slashed Future-Peter, since he did it himself, he couldn't heal...but I doubt it.

LOL. I said something like this a page ago back, but I deleted it because I didn't want to elaborate, but basically, for the sake of the show being enjoyable you need to not worry about theories of time and what not.

Yeah, Future Peter could have gone back to the first episode and prevented everything, but that would make for a pretty short tv series wouldn't it?

This is one of those shows that almost invites you to over analyze it. And as for Future Peter going back to the first episode and preventing everything, he didn't know that even that would help. It could have been worse, damn that butterfly effect.

 

[Josette]

Agreed. Heroes has always given me the impression they want you to analyze and think about things.

 

[Hulksmashed]

Seriously. It's just a TV, a form of entertainment. Sometimes it gets so broken down and analized that it's no longer fun to watch.

The only leeway that a sci-fi or fantasy movie/show should get is the initial underlying concept forgiveability.

For example. Marvel Universe is full of individuals with abilities that break laws of phsyics, are unrealistic and could never exist in the real world. The idea that those individuals can exist is the underlying concept of the Marvel Universe so you can forgive the unrealistic nature.

Just because those powers exist does not mean that you can break rules that exist within the Universe itself without a really good explaination. Wolverine is nearly immortal, has adamantium lined bones, claws, and felion like senses and agility. People know this, and as illogical and impossible as it is, they accept it. However, if Wolverine starts flying around, shooting laser beams from his eyes and turning into living metal, he better damn well be a skrull or it makes no sense.

Long story short, Even if a universe has unrealistic laws, it still has to have laws, or it becomes too random. heroes, for me is on the verge of proving that it has no laws or universe definition.

 

[The Mike]

Maybe Peter injured himself, like Present-Peter slashed Future-Peter, since he did it himself, he couldn't heal...but I doubt it.

Nope. Claire has mamed herself multiple times to test her abilities and heals every time.

 

[The ill Jedi]

Should've kept up with this thread the night of the premier, too much crap to read thru now.

Loved the first two episodes, well all except the Mohinder stuff , Maya is smokin' hot though.

Everything else is right about where I expexted it to be and it seems like it's gonna be a fun season.

 

[ProgMatinee]

The only leeway that a sci-fi or fantasy movie/show should get is the initial underlying concept forgiveability.

For example. Marvel Universe is full of individuals with abilities that break laws of phsyics, are unrealistic and could never exist in the real world. The idea that those individuals can exist is the underlying concept of the Marvel Universe so you can forgive the unrealistic nature.

Just because those powers exist does not mean that you can break rules that exist within the Universe itself without a really good explaination. Wolverine is nearly immortal, has adamantium lined bones, claws, and felion like senses and agility. People know this, and as illogical and impossible as it is, they accept it. However, if Wolverine starts flying around, shooting laser beams from his eyes and turning into living metal, he better damn well be a skrull or it makes no sense.

Long story short, Even if a universe has unrealistic laws, it still has to have laws, or it becomes too random. heroes, for me is on the verge of proving that it has no laws or universe definition.

Wolverine flying is a big difference from making sure time travelers follow Einstein rules or whatever. To some extent you have to let go of real world rules and accept that writers need to bend those rules to tell the story.

 

[lcummins]

True that, he did do it in the end I suppose. I would just think a guy with his powers would just obliterate everything and not allowing himself to get touched. But then again, maybe he was just playing with her and wasn't really expecting her to attack him. Like she said, all she can do is heal, he wasn't expecting her to even put up a fight, there was no Peter there to protect her.

Didn't Sylar state in the episode that he could kill her and take what he wanted, but that he didn't want to do that? Isn't that why he "toyed" with her and didn't use all his available powers to just overpower her quickly?

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Didn't Sylar state in the episode that he could kill her and take what he wanted, but that he didn't want to do that? Isn't that why he "toyed" with her and didn't use all his available powers to just overpower her quickly?

No, he said she can't be killer and now neither can he. "She's different"

He said that as he was walking out the door before he put the top of her head back on.

 

[The Mike]

No. He said he couldn't kill her even if he wanted. Then he said she was not like the rest of them that she was special. That is what prompted the further angst of Claire to feel less human. He did remark about her nerve endings so I think what he did was cut those so she wouldn't feel the pain. I'm assuming its the natural progression of what happened with Adam Monroe last season that eventually after so many regenerations that the cells stop breaking down and you become essentially immortal but it might a different twist that Claire is actually a higher evolved super. Remember she is a third generation super because Nathan's stock of Angela and Arthur were also empowered.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I'm not sure I like giving Claire so much weight in the story. She already provides the means of curing people, how much more "special" does she need to be?

 

[lcummins]

No, he said she can't be killer and now neither can he. "She's different"

He said that as he was walking out the door before he put the top of her head back on.

No. He said he couldn't kill her even if he wanted. Then he said she was not like the rest of them that she was special. That is what prompted the further angst of Claire to feel less human. He did remark about her nerve endings so I think what he did was cut those so she wouldn't feel the pain. I'm assuming its the natural progression of what happened with Adam Monroe last season that eventually after so many regenerations that the cells stop breaking down and you become essentially immortal but it might a different twist that Claire is actually a higher evolved super. Remember she is a third generation super because Nathan's stock of Angela and Arthur were also empowered.

Ok, I mistyped when I said "kill" her, but I am pretty sure that when he is walking around the house talking to her (well before catching her) that he makes a comment about not wanting to "harm" her or something to that effect. If someone still has it recorded, go back and review the scenes and let us know...

 

[Darth Loki]

As much as I love Syler as a bad guy, he's an awesome good guy too

 

[Darth Loki]

As much as I love Syler as a bad guy, he's an awesome good guy too

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God I love this show

 

[Agent0028]

Me too Loki, me too.