Heroes- Now with spoilers!

[Darklord Dave]

We haven't had real confirmation what Angela's power is - she dreams the future, but perhaps there are more aspects and she's somehow controlling Sylar. How does she get a woman to just sacrifice herself for Sylar to eat?

 

[Cocoboloboy]

I assumed the girl didn't have a clue what was going on.

 

[Agent0028]

That the girl didn't know she was a sacrificial lamb was my assumption as well. But some sort of power over others could be a possiblity and would make for an interesting character.

 

[The Mike]

After I saw baker Sylar I looked at my wife and said I hate where they're taking Sylar's character. So yeah, I hope they don't totally screw up what a great bad guy he is.

I'm leaning to some sort of Mind control for that, one of the telepaths getting in there and trying to rewire. Its obviously not a change that'll stick because he was in Angela's vision as a villain but having your mother be privy to screwing with your head in Sylar's mind would classify her as equal to his adoptive mother and really push him over the edge.

We haven't had real confirmation what Angela's power is - she dreams the future, but perhaps there are more aspects and she's somehow controlling Sylar. How does she get a woman to just sacrifice herself for Sylar to eat?

The only clue that we got about Angela is that she is Precognitive Dreamer. Which is why her images of the future do not change as fast as Isaac or Usutu (the African visionary). The thing is she doesn't need a catalyst to make it happen like they do. Usutu needs the music to focus where as Angela just sees it but only while sleeping.

The woman was just an agent that had a power that she felt Sylar would benefit from. The woman "Bridget" had no clue what she was in for. Its like feeding a mouse to a cat, the mouse has no clue until its too late.

But some sort of power over others could be a possiblity and would make for an interesting character.

Angela has shown no signs of Empathic mimicry which is what Peter has as an ability. I would wager that her powers are just as a precog and that her "hold" of Sylar is part emotional on his part and mostly willingness to go along with it as well.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

Speaking of Usutu and his walkman, why did Parkman get the white eyes when he put it on? I didn't get that part.

 

[The Mike]

He took the homemade drugs and then used the walkman to focus into the vision but how he obtained that power isn't really told or makes any sense. As a telepath he could enter into Usutu's mind while he was having a vision and see it but he essentially shouldn't be able to do it independently. Unless....all of the Africa stuff isn't actually occurring and its all a mind game by Future Peter. Matt's dad did something similar in Season 2

 

[Agent0028]

I was thinking that the music on the walkman is something special, and that the combination of it and the drugs is what induced the trance. Maybe a recording of a tribal chant or ritual or something.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

If it is a combo of the drugs and music then that sure cheapens that ability. That would mean anybody could do it with the right stuff. I guess they'll explain all that next week.

 

[galactiboy]

We haven't had real confirmation what Angela's power is - she dreams the future, but perhaps there are more aspects and she's somehow controlling Sylar. How does she get a woman to just sacrifice herself for Sylar to eat?

I was thinking they eluded to her being able to influence people as well... maybe not control, but be able to push people in a particular direction.

 

[Kuzeh]

Last night was kind of lame for me...
I don't like what their doing to Sylar either...
Claire's story on the other hand is getting interesting...
let's see what happens...

 

[CAhobbit]

Of course they're going somewhere cooler and darker with Claire. Or did everyone forget Future Claire already?

True, but couldn't Future Claire 'disappear' with the change of the time line? So cooler/darker Claire won't exist and we'll continue with annoying/angst ridden Claire. Of maybe we'll finally get a more mature Claire by the time the season is over.

 

[Batty]

When Claire and Meredith were in the storage container, why was Claire affected by the loss of oxygen and not Meredith?

 

[EVILFACE]

When Claire and Meredith were in the storage container, why was Claire affected by the loss of oxygen and not Meredith?

Bad writing.

Show is very uneven so far.

 

[Darklord Dave]

When Claire and Meredith were in the storage container, why was Claire affected by the loss of oxygen and not Meredith?

Because she's actually a fire elemental that doesn't need to breath.

Because she's getting her oxygen from the oxygen that the fire is sucking up.

Because it's really her heavy perfume that's choking Claire, not the lack of oxygen.

Lighten up! It's television!

 

[Batty]

Because she's actually a fire elemental that doesn't need to breath.

Because she's getting her oxygen from the oxygen that the fire is sucking up.

Because it's really her heavy perfume that's choking Claire, not the lack of oxygen.

Lighten up! It's television!

Geez Dave, it was just a question. When I was watching that scene I wondered about it. Sorry for asking. From now on I'll know better.

 

[The Mike]

Its because she was focusing the flames on Claire. The heat was removing the oxygen from Claire in the immediate sense not fully, that is why she brought up the idea of Water Boarding where the prisoner feels as if they are going to drown even though there is no threat. She made Claire think she was sufficating even though there was no danger not because of her ability but also because if you watch the episode again you'll see the storage container changing from dark to red move towards Claire and immediately change from fiery red and follow Claire along with the flames in her hand. If she were actually removing the oxygen completely, she would have fainted before Claire. It was to show that not all fighting is physical but like Sylar many of the villains will fight psychologically and it can be as physically damaging as a straight forward attack. The Storage Container was increasing in temperature because the "sizzle" when Claire touched it but if it were hot enough to really cause damage it would have burned off the skin of her hands when she touched it, she wouldn't have felt it but it would have stopped her from escaping immediately. It was getting hot to increase the feeling of temperature because she would sweat along with the immediate oxygen burn made the mindgame that much worse.

Many ask how she could teach Claire how to fight when she is a firestarter.....she taught her a really valuable lesson that the mindgame is more important than the direct fight. Think about the preview where she has the scalpel with Peter in the future scenario. He can feel pain but cannot die because he can mimic her powers, which means any repeated damage would take a mental toll more than a physical one.

Excellent question.

 

[The Mike]

True, but couldn't Future Claire 'disappear' with the change of the time line? So cooler/darker Claire won't exist and we'll continue with annoying/angst ridden Claire. Of maybe we'll finally get a more mature Claire by the time the season is over.

Not necessarily. Time is like a tapestry where different threads combine to make one solid line. The changes that Future Peter is making could change Claire to be the happy go lucky Claire from the very beginning or the Angst ridden Claire we know now or an even darker version then she was originally in the Future glimpse. In reality we won't know the ramifications until Peter returns to his time for good, which is why Angela told him that we should screw with time.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Just got to watch this episode. Good up until the ending with the cop getting the crazy eyes and then Nate reading the Bible. Not very cool. Next weeks looked damned good though!!!!

 

[Batty]

Thanks for the answer, Mike.

 

[The Mike]

Its what I do.