Heroes- Now with spoilers!

[TheObsoleteMan]

When Claire and Meredith were in the storage container, why was Claire affected by the loss of oxygen and not Meredith?

She said something about waterboarding and tricking Claire's brain into thinking she's suffocating when she's actually not. Something like that.

 

[EVILFACE]

Well I do think a small box on fire would suck up the oxygen quickly.

 

[CAhobbit]

Not necessarily. Time is like a tapestry where different threads combine to make one solid line. The changes that Future Peter is making could change Claire to be the happy go lucky Claire from the very beginning or the Angst ridden Claire we know now or an even darker version then she was originally in the Future glimpse. In reality we won't know the ramifications until Peter returns to his time for good, which is why Angela told him that we should screw with time.

But it's not out of the realm of possibility. Of course the future keeps blowing up each season so there's been little change on the front of that particular issue (within the time line).

 

[Cocoboloboy]

Its because she was focusing the flames on Claire. The heat was removing the oxygen from Claire in the immediate sense not fully, that is why she brought up the idea of Water Boarding where the prisoner feels as if they are going to drown even though there is no threat. She made Claire think she was sufficating even though there was no danger not because of her ability but also because if you watch the episode again you'll see the storage container changing from dark to red move towards Claire and immediately change from fiery red and follow Claire along with the flames in her hand. If she were actually removing the oxygen completely, she would have fainted before Claire. It was to show that not all fighting is physical but like Sylar many of the villains will fight psychologically and it can be as physically damaging as a straight forward attack. The Storage Container was increasing in temperature because the "sizzle" when Claire touched it but if it were hot enough to really cause damage it would have burned off the skin of her hands when she touched it, she wouldn't have felt it but it would have stopped her from escaping immediately. It was getting hot to increase the feeling of temperature because she would sweat along with the immediate oxygen burn made the mindgame that much worse.

I was wondering the same thing. This is a great explanation.

 

[galactiboy]

I was wondering the same thing. This is a great explanation.

Yep, that works for me too. Although I hadn't thought about it being a problem

 

[The Mike]

Well I do think a small box on fire would suck up the oxygen quickly.

She didn't light the container on fire. She was heating the steel walls to create heat. She was focusing the heat near Claire and then moving it as Claire did. Being Pyrokinetic she could focus the flames and heat where she wanted meaning she could have easily transferred the energy outwards and made the outside amazingly hot but kept the inside managable.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Geez Dave, it was just a question. When I was watching that scene I wondered about it. Sorry for asking. From now on I'll know better.

Geez, if you couldn't guess from my answers - I was kidding!

Its because she was focusing the flames on Claire. The heat was removing the oxygen from Claire in the immediate sense not fully, that is why she brought up the idea of Water Boarding where the prisoner feels as if they are going to drown even though there is no threat. She made Claire think she was sufficating even though there was no danger not because of her ability but also because if you watch the episode again you'll see the storage container changing from dark to red move towards Claire and immediately change from fiery red and follow Claire along with the flames in her hand. If she were actually removing the oxygen completely, she would have fainted before Claire. It was to show that not all fighting is physical but like Sylar many of the villains will fight psychologically and it can be as physically damaging as a straight forward attack. The Storage Container was increasing in temperature because the "sizzle" when Claire touched it but if it were hot enough to really cause damage it would have burned off the skin of her hands when she touched it, she wouldn't have felt it but it would have stopped her from escaping immediately. It was getting hot to increase the feeling of temperature because she would sweat along with the immediate oxygen burn made the mindgame that much worse.

Many ask how she could teach Claire how to fight when she is a firestarter.....she taught her a really valuable lesson that the mindgame is more important than the direct fight. Think about the preview where she has the scalpel with Peter in the future scenario. He can feel pain but cannot die because he can mimic her powers, which means any repeated damage would take a mental toll more than a physical one.

Excellent question.

See - there you go. Good explanation.

 

[darthviper107]

I like the show but just some things to think about--

-Why does someone in the future keep coming back to tell them things need to change so the future isn't bad? In the present they try so hard to make things good it seems impossible for the future to get bad.
-Also, if someone from the future went back in time to change something (like Peter stopping the virus outbreak) then there would be no virus outbreak in the future meaning he wouldn't have a reason to go back in time--meaning he wouldn't go back in time to stop the virus outbreak which means he can't go back in time to change anything. Get it?

Essentially:

Present->Virus Outbreak->Peter goes back in time

Present->Peter stops outbreak->Peter doesn't go back in time because there's no outbreak->Peter doesn't stop outbreak

 

[Batty]

Geez, if you couldn't guess from my answers - I was kidding!

I didn't think you had a sense of humor.

 

[Agent0028]

Ya know if one day in the future people have the ability to time travel we could be living with people from the future right now.

 

[IrishJedi]

Ya know if one day in the future people have the ability to time travel we could be living with people from the future right now.

True, unless some of the scientific theories are correct that suggest time travel may indeed be possible, but that only moving FORWARD (the future) could really be achieved.

 

[Agent0028]

Gee, just take all the fun outta my ponderings.

 

[Kuzeh]

I was rewatching the season 2 finale last night, and I have a question...
sorry if it has been discussed already, lots of posts here...
If Niki died in the explosion...how the hell is her body in perfect condition during the wake...we can see her perfectly when Tracy arrives...did they drop the ball here?...

 

[Darth Caedus]

I was rewatching the season 2 finale last night, and I have a question...
sorry if it has been discussed already, lots of posts here...
If Niki died in the explosion...how the hell is her body in perfect condition during the wake...we can see her perfectly when Tracy arrives...did they drop the ball here?...

Never really thought of that, but it's a valid point.

 

[IrishJedi]

I was rewatching the season 2 finale last night, and I have a question...
sorry if it has been discussed already, lots of posts here...
If Niki died in the explosion...how the hell is her body in perfect condition during the wake...we can see her perfectly when Tracy arrives...did they drop the ball here?...

I noticed a touched-up burn scar on her face in the coffin. At least in HD, it was quite obvious.

 

[darthviper107]

I noticed a touched-up burn scar on her face in the coffin. At least in HD, it was quite obvious.

That's what it looked like to me--funeral homes are pretty good at making dead people look normal.

 

[Agent0028]

Plus if they had the corpse in really bad shape so she is unrecognizeable people may still think Tracey and Niki are the same person. This pretty much puts that to rest.

What I want to know is...how much time has passed with her in the house?

 

[IrishJedi]

Anyone watching tonight? If so, HOLY CRAP.

They've really taken off all the chains this season.

 

[Agent0028]

I love this show, its so much fun to watch. But this episode seemed like a variation on the same theme.

 

[IrishJedi]

Huh? This might have been the wackiest episode yet... in several ways.

The show is definitely back.