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She sucked. So they wrote her off the show.

While true, also one has to remember that she was a tie to Micah's storyline which became irrelevant after Niki's death. Her and Micah both are probably just living life in New Orleans. She was just learning about her powers and his both of his parents dead and absolutely no knowledge of his aunt (Strauss) not to mention no way of getting around he'd have no real reason to continue forward.

One question though that kind just came to mind and if its been answered please reference to me here, Dr. Zimmerman told Tracy that she was part of triplets (Barbara, Niki and Tracy) to which powers were given. We had the Jekyll and Hyde thing with Niki/Jessica and Tracy is playing her part but in that same episode we see a picture of Barbara with "The German":

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We only presume its Barbara because Niki had no knowledge of any siblings and lived in Vegas with her abusive father, Tracy had no knowledge of this entire saga and Zimmerman cals her Barbara upon answering the door....was the connection to The German and how someone who was claimed to be so villainous that he was amazingly dangerous by HRG was in a photo smiling with Barbara, Zimmerman and his wife?
 
I agree with Screemingmetal. I loved the show when it first came out and even the second season, I felt like it was starting to venture some place strange but I was hanging cause strange can be good. But now I feel that They are trying Too hard to tell Too much. And my brain is hurting after every episode. Shifting sides , yes powers, no powers, dead dad that wasn't I mean can't we have a coheasive, story line. Im not sure what it is anymore.
 
Personally I don't feel like everyone's story has to play out to the fullest. Peter has no clue what happened to the Irish chick, so why should we? As for Monica if she doesn't have any relevence on this story arc and I think it would be foolish to bring her back and have to contrive a reason for her to be in it. She's probably still down in New Orleans working to get her and her family to a better place, which is going to be even more difficult now that Micah has probably been added to the family. Maybe at some point she'll be back again, I thought she was a pretty cool character so I think it would be cool to see her again. But not until the story calls for it.
 
Personally I don't feel like everyone's story has to play out to the fullest. Peter has no clue what happened to the Irish chick, so why should we? As for Monica if she doesn't have any relevence on this story arc and I think it would be foolish to bring her back and have to contrive a reason for her to be in it. She's probably still down in New Orleans working to get her and her family to a better place, which is going to be even more difficult now that Micah has probably been added to the family. Maybe at some point she'll be back again, I thought she was a pretty cool character so I think it would be cool to see her again. But not until the story calls for it.
Yes, Peter has no clue what happened to her, and doesn't seem to give a s--t. Some hero.
He'd at least be affected by it in some way.
I think for them to introduce a character like Monica and just discard her is sloppy writing. They obviously don't like the character, but some kind of closing as they did for Micah would've been enough.
It doesn't matter as I don't think the series will be around long enough for Monica to come back.
 
I liked Season 2 but I can't argue that the whole thing wasn't sloppy. A lot of what is going on in Season 3 are removing what occurred last season. None of the characters introduced in Season 2 are still around are they?
 
I've been going back and re-watching season 2 now that I've finished 1 one it definitely is still pretty lack luster. West just annoys the crap out of me. And Maya and her brother are annoying too. Monica never bothered me though.

Screaming, I understand your point about Monica now, I don't remember where she was when the season ended so if they didn't give a good closing to her then that is pretty sucky. Maybe they were intending to bring her back and decided not to since she was annoying. I also think it would be better if Peter felt guilty and was a bit bothered by what happened to the Irish girl. Maybe have a bit of Peter Parker style guilt.
 
All major characters save Maury, Adam Monroe and Maya were left open-ended in Season 2. Monica ran out of the building injured with Micah and that was that. Peter's girlfriend Caitlin was lost to the future. West helps Claire survive Elle and that was that. The thing is both Jeph Loeb and Tim Kring wrote many of the episodes in Season 2.

I'm surprised no one posted this:

Tim Kring Should Go Die in a Fire
Posted at 4:07 PM Nov 24, 2008

^^^^ Tim Kring. ^^^^ him right in his ear. First, Heroes has sucked at different levels since right before the end of the first season (the second season was boring, and the third season has been godawful. This is not an opinion, but scientific fact. I will brook no argument on the matter). Then he calls Heroes' viewers "saps and disp^^^^s," and, rather than shutting his damn face, he's still out there talking like an idiot to whomever will listen. As reported by AICN:

He told last weekend's audience at the 2008 Screenwriting Expo: "I was primarily fascinated by the origin story. Once the original story is over, and the character has no more questions about what's happening or existential drama, then the questions become just about plot, and then it becomes harder for me personally to connect to." No ^^^^? That's weird, because that's exactly when Heroes' started sucking. Perhaps if you don't want to make a show after the origin story, you should stop making the show and wasting everyone's ^^^^ing time.

Don't expect Peter to ever again reference his season-two love interest, whom the super-compassionate male nurse abandoned to a nightmarish alternate future. From IGN.com's report on the presentation: When the fan asked if Peter would ever acknowledge Caitlin or express any grief over what seems to be her dire fate, Kring replied, "No, we passed it. We leapfrogged it." He added that when the idea of returning to Caitlin was brought up, they asked, "Really? Are we going to risk that? We have enough stuff to [deal with]."
So Heroes' main hero has abandoned a barmaid in one of Heroes' half-dozen dark, apocalyptic futures. Awesome. As a barely professional nerd writer, I think the best thing to do with loose ends and inconsistencies in your story is to just ignore them. That way you don't have to ever think about the plot you're writing, or the characters, or common sense, or decency.

And though Kring employs time travel constantly in the series, he advises others to avoid it: "It's a minefield that will make your mind explode. It will just drive you crazy. That's been something we've tried to use with a certain amount of rules - Not being able to change the future unless you go back. That device has been one of those that's just been so complicated for us."
^^^^ you, Kring. Don't pretend for a second you have any rules, especially with regards to time-travel, which you have used constantly and incoherently. You've shown a dark future three out of three seasons. People come from the future to be dark and mysterious several times a season. You had Hiro in 16th century Japan for half of season 2, for ^^^^'s sake. And then, you had Hiro arbitrarily decide that he couldn't go back in time to stop the formula from being stolen by Daphne "swearing he'd never do it again," only to have him travel back a few episodes later to try and get the jump on the African Isaac. And then you sent Hiro on a vision of the past through some peyote bull^^^^...even though HE'S THE ^^^^ING TIME TRAVELER.

Die. In. A. Fire.
 
If I remember correctly, wasn't Heroes originally going to feature different sets of Heroes every season but the cast was so popular they decided to keep them? I know I had to have heard that somewhere because I'm not clever enough to come up with it on my own. :lol Anyways, I guess Kring wanted to do that since he has a hard time connecting to characters after the origin.

Sometimes I almost feel like a moron for enjoying the show. But damn I do love it flawed or not.
 
At this rate Im gonna forget the HEROES- and start rooting for the villians to come and wipe them out. :lol Hiro is the only one worth saving, he's never boring.
 
Really? I've lost my patience with Hiro. I've had enough of "Wesa Heroes we musa stop ze billan." Future Hiro from four years from Genesis which would be essentially at least two years from now if not less spoke perfect English....let's get some character development already.

Its like Peter, talk about tons of wasted potential. Nathan who by all intents and purposes came off as Peter's Robin is more interesting at this point. Let's not get into Claire....stuck in the same ol' mindset as two years ago.

The only character getting any real development from the beginning is Sylar, Matt has a bit but it feels really rushed and Mohinder went completely left.

I still love the show but it really needs to kick off the training wheels and move forward and the fact that Tim Kring calls fans of Heroes dip^^^^s for obsessing too much in public and feels its uninteresting past the origins doesn't really fill me with much hope...
 
Thats the only funny thing about him. If he starts speaking goood english whats the piont? He's the comedy relief. :lol Now for actual entertainment I agree Syler is getting interesting. I don't believe for one second he is good- just wait he's gonna go on a killin' spree any moment.:naughty
 
Hiro isn't funny anymore, he's annoying. The comedy was cute in the first season, but he shouldn't still be the character he was in the first season with everything's that happened to him.

The writing for the characters is very poor, and reading Tim Kring interviews sure doesn't fill me with any hope that it will improve.
 
I think the show should just focus on the trio of Claire, Elle and Daphne searching for answers wearing nothing but string bikinis with at least one make-out session per episode. It would rule the airwaves. :lecture
 
This season's been awful for me too, but I still think Hiro is funny. I'm not leaving alot of hope for many of the other characters, but if I can get a laugh or two It's worth keeping Hiro NOT speaking english. I don't see it lasting if they keep this horrible writing up. it's putting me to sleep.
 
Is there a new episode tonight? What time does it air on the east coast? Ive been downloading them and have yet to watch one live, but ive nothing to do tonight.
 
I think the show should just focus on the trio of Claire, Elle and Daphne searching for answers wearing nothing but string bikinis with at least one make-out session per episode. It would rule the airwaves. :lecture

Can there be a guest appearance by Kristen Kreuk in a few episodes of this? :naughty:naughty
 
Should be on at 9PM EST. They air these like all regular shows. They all air at 9PM on all 4 times zones on the US.

It's Midnight on the East Coast when I'm sitting down to watch it on the West Coast.
 
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