Firebird
Super Freak
That is a great mod. The figure looks excellent. May have to try the string mod soon. I never did like how the arrow quiver set on the back of the figure.
Hot Toys – MMS172 - Avengers: Hawkeye
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Recently set up a new display area, so thought posting my hawkeye again.
Also to share some mods that I done. Do not do this if you are not confident to do.
1. the collar was cut shorter.
2. the 2 black buckles at the waist was shifted closer.
3. the sliver buckle on the left thigh is placed in wrong direction. I restitched the inner side at the pant & turned the buckle over.
4. arrow quiver firmly secured with a black sting around the body.
Can you see the string?
Lookin' good! Little tweaks make a big difference
Finally ahve this figure on the way, fortunately I got it at a reasonable price, not of the ridiculous jokers on ebay
What really frustrates me about the sellers of this figure on eBay is the complete lack of justification for the price increase
I understand that collectibles generally increase with value over time for various different reasons, the original Mark 1 was out of stock for a long time and so it's price increase with it's continuing scarcity (sp?) made sense
But this has pretty much only just come out and it's clear that the increase is only to rip off collectors, for lack of a better term. And that's really all it is, a rip off.
If it were 3 years down the line and there were only a few left, that would be acceptable, but this is like going into Burger King and paying double for a whopper because it's the last one on the shelf
Clipperking will understand!
I'm just venting here, but it really frustrates how situations are exploited.
ah well
Why do you accept appreciation if it happens over a long period of time as opposed to it happening early on in the release? If one figure takes 3 years to become scarce and the other takes 2 months they will both reach a similar level of scarcity regardless of how long it takes.
Actually in a way it makes more sense for the figure that sells out super fast to skyrocket. It's blowing off of the shelves because it's either that popular or that underproduced. Either way you slice it if it's scarce on the market (and there's a demand for it), it will appreciate no matter where it is in its life cycle.
We saw this instantaneous boom happen with Fury and Hawkeye not because they're the most popular but probably because they were very underproduced. We're seeing the same thing happen right now with the DX12 and I'm sure they made PLENTY of those but it's just ridiculously popular. Same thing is starting to happen with Widow and Bane. You can expect the same to happen with Hulk as he's down to "under 40" on SS and he's not even close to the release date.
galmando
Super Freak
The reason i accept the former is that it's expected that collectibles rise in value over time as they become rarer and rarer.
Before the Mark 1 2.0, you could only find a limited number of Mark 1's on eBay, and they were from collectors who no longer wanted them so were putting them up for sale
The difference now is that Hawkeye has sold out from 'official' vendors, but I would regard some eBay sellers as somewhat official in that they are not collectors simply selling off figures, they are stockiing up and selling from online stores and then when you have no place else to go - boom! - smacking the price up - that's exploiting collectors in my opinion
Hawkeye is not rare, it is not scarce, you find plenty of them, it's just only available from eBay sellers from Hong Kong who are unjustifiably jacking up the price
That's the difference, and it makes me wanna hulk out!!! Grr!
Folks had their chance. This figure was up for pre-order for <$200, folks held off, and now are paying the price. It happens. But ultimately, sellers do not set prices, buyers do. If buyers didn't want it bad enough, they wouldn't pay what sellers ask. If a seller truly had a monopoly on these somehow, then I would have more sympathy for your argument. But it isn't like these were store exclusives that these HK sellers gobbled all these up from when others didn't have an opportunity. For whatever reason, collectors didn't get while the getting was good and now they have to deal with the markups. Best for folks to just learn that's the way it is, and buy early if you think you might regret later. I had to learn that lesson myself, but now I hardly really regret anything because if I pass, it is because I am pretty dang confident I won't want it later.
galmando
Super Freak
I absolutely agree with you that buyers run the risk of having to pay more later, i myself paid more for this figure than i would have had i got it on pre-order, fortunately i didn't have to pay the crazy eBay prices
but that doesn't make what the guys in Hong Kong are doing right, obviously i'm not going to change the world with this post and i don't expect anything to change, i'm simply venting about how all this operates now, but the point i'm making is that morally it's wrong
And i would go so far to say that i slightly disagree with you in that i think it's unfair that if someone isn't sure about a figure that less than a year later they should pay over £100 more for it, in some cases upto £150
i just can't get my head around it.
Well, all I can say is--be glad you're not trying to play catch up with Rainman figures 
The HK sellers may give you a bad taste in their mouth, but on the other hand, guys who hoard up HT figures actually do contribute to the hype and demand level that keeps HT going.
The HK sellers may give you a bad taste in their mouth, but on the other hand, guys who hoard up HT figures actually do contribute to the hype and demand level that keeps HT going.
"Resistance is Futile"
galmando
Super Freak
Well, all I can say is--be glad you're not trying to play catch up with Rainman figures
The HK sellers may give you a bad taste in their mouth, but on the other hand, guys who hoard up HT figures actually do contribute to the hype and demand level that keeps HT going.
this i 100% agree with
saw the Lebowski figure, that's a LOT of cash for a figure, a lot
I get where you're coming from but I have to agree with everything that KM80 just said (as I usually do
). I think that you’re a little stuck on the idea that time makes things rise in value and it has to be somewhat vintage to earn its worth. As I first posted I really I do view time as a factor, but a much smaller one than supply and demand. Actually right now Hawkeye IS rare as there are only 14 figures available on the Bay right now. Guaranteed there would be next to none if they were all priced at $350 instead of $450.
I also don't really think that the collectors that sell off their MISB figures down the road for market value are doing anything more altruistically then the retailers of who's morals you question.
Like Sam said you gotta strike while the iron's hot in this game. People want to wait for in hand pics to make a decision but that's just not a realistic approach for the more popular or under produced figs. Right now the DX11 EX is sold out and there will be a lot of broken hearts and people paying the vig on the Bay. I ordered mine last June.
I just accept this part of collecting I guess. I know I like to see things that I own appreciate and Lord knows I've paid the secondary market price on many different collectibles from comics to 6",7",10",12" figures to prop replicas to Hallmark ornaments and beyond.
galmando
Super Freak
I get where you're coming from but I have to agree with everything that KM80 just said (as I usually do
I think i'm just having a hissy fit, moaning a lot
I'm not arguing BTW. It's all just convo
It has happened to all of us...the initial product is not that impressive and we wait for in hand pics and then we change our mind...and there is a cost to that....but...if you do some real seaching and are patient sometimes you can find a deal...
DrQ2
Super Freak
Finally ahve this figure on the way, fortunately I got it at a reasonable price, not of the ridiculous jokers on ebay
What really frustrates me about the sellers of this figure on eBay is the complete lack of justification for the price increase
I understand that collectibles generally increase with value over time for various different reasons, the original Mark 1 was out of stock for a long time and so it's price increase with it's continuing scarcity (sp?) made sense
But this has pretty much only just come out and it's clear that the increase is only to rip off collectors, for lack of a better term. And that's really all it is, a rip off.
If it were 3 years down the line and there were only a few left, that would be acceptable, but this is like going into Burger King and paying double for a whopper because it's the last one on the shelf
Clipperking will understand!
I'm just venting here, but it really frustrates how situations are exploited.
ah well
Do you really know how much a whopper cost to make? Do you go into burger King and say hay it costs you under $1.00 from start to finish. So you should only be charging $1.10.
Really it's worth the price to someone. Let them make the money, next ime po it.
Btw pizzas no matter what is on them only cost under $1.00 to make.
galmando
Super Freak
The whopper was probably the worst comparison in history.
I actually like Burger King more than Maccies.
I feel bad for bringing BK into this
Viking Spawn
Super Freak
What's the easiest way to clip the quiver on is back??? It's frustrating the f__k outta me
This argument makes me think of this:
https://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103454/the-chewbacca-defense
That's just good business.
If i could make a product for less than a dollar and sell it for 6, i'd be laughing all the way to the bahamas.
