Hot Toys – MMS255 – Guardians of the Galaxy: 1/6th scale Star-Lord Collectible Figure

[Motuxmen]

I can see how that would apply if those figures were completely unavailable to Australia, but they are not. The standard versions are readily available, the exclusive versions are not. So in this situation, your theory does not apply.

Nice idea though, thanks.

It still applies. Even more so with exclusives. If it's a sideshow exclusive, there are ten or so different "exclusives" versions of hot toys, the area it's for sale is still controlled and governed by the lie cing agreement. They can sell a standard version in some areas, but not the sideshow exclusive because it makes an unfair advantage, or more appropriate, hinders other licensed sellers from competing with SS on a level field.

The licensing agreement from Hot Toys tells each licensed/authorized dealer what product they can and can not sell in what region. That's not theory. It's fact. The exact details behind that agreement are affected by many things, including the studios Hot Toys works with, and the agreements they have with other sellers.

The sideshow exclusive is not going to be availble in all areas. Not every figure will be available from every retailor in every area/region. It's not some crazy business move, or lack of thinking on the retailers part, nor is it some conspiracy or an act to stick it to any one or any region.

The places (regions) that each figure, and each version of that figure(IE exclusive) are made available for purchase are not controlled by the retailer (ie sideshow or any other authorized dealer) they are written into the contract they each have with Hot Toys, as well as the Licensing agreement Hot Toys has with the license holder (the studios like Sony and Marvel and owners of the IP like DC and hasbro).

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Just out of curiosity, and please forgive me if I'm behind on this news, but did sideshow send out a batch of the EX? I was under the impression that they were still stuck somewhere in here....

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I'm pretty sure SSC provided Comic Vine with the figure.

 

[DasFoster]

I'm pretty sure SSC provided Comic Vine with the figure.

Makes sense. Thanks, buddy!

 

[dominishin]

Lol @ email. I was on the edge on ordering the EX from SS... a REG is a definite NO.

 

[momaw]

It still applies. Even more so with exclusives. If it's a sideshow exclusive, there are ten or so different "exclusives" versions of hot toys, the area it's for sale is still controlled and governed by the lie cing agreement. They can sell a standard version in some areas, but not the sideshow exclusive because it makes an unfair advantage, or more appropriate, hinders other licensed sellers from competing with SS on a level field.

The licensing agreement from Hot Toys tells each licensed/authorized dealer what product they can and can not sell in what region. That's not theory. It's fact. The exact details behind that agreement are affected by many things, including the studios Hot Toys works with, and the agreements they have with other sellers.

The sideshow exclusive is not going to be availble in all areas. Not every figure will be available from every retailor in every area/region. It's not some crazy business move, or lack of thinking on the retailers part, nor is it some conspiracy or an act to stick it to any one or any region.

The places (regions) that each figure, and each version of that figure(IE exclusive) are made available for purchase are not controlled by the retailer (ie sideshow or any other authorized dealer) they are written into the contract they each have with Hot Toys, as well as the Licensing agreement Hot Toys has with the license holder (the studios like Sony and Marvel and owners of the IP like DC and hasbro).

Except that doesn't explain why one week and item is available to sell to a territory, the next it's not, then it is, then it isn't. I know for a fact the WS Black Widow figure changed 4 times. It either is available or it's not. The Ironman Mark VII Battle damage exclusive was never available. It sucked, but that was the licensing agreement. Things changing arbitrarily from week to week likely has nothing to do with the licensing agreement. They know what the agreement/contract is when it goes up for PO. That doesn't change.

 

[jedibear]

Nice look from comic vine there....thanks for posting that YankeesFanboy...

 

[Lawrence]

Except that doesn't explain why one week and item is available to sell to a territory, the next it's not, then it is, then it isn't. I know for a fact the WS Black Widow figure changed 4 times. It either is available or it's not. The Ironman Mark VII Battle damage exclusive was never available. It sucked, but that was the licensing agreement. Things changing arbitrarily from week to week likely has nothing to do with the licensing agreement. They know what the agreement/contract is when it goes up for PO. That doesn't change.

I think I've had this discussion with SSC before. They simply have a certain number allotted to some territories (I don't know if it's their choice, or HT's). Whether its time sensitive as well (having to pre order within a certain time), I'm not sure.

I don't even think it's limited to EX versions of figures. I think even regular versions of certain figures get limited after a certain quota is met.

Bummer for Ozzie's & Kiwi's sometimes.

I'm happy I got my EX pre order for this in on time.

 

[Sidewinder]

This restriction comes from HT, not SSC. If there is a quota to certain countries then how hard is it to say that in an email? All they have to tell you is that they have already sold all they are allowed to that territory and that's the end of the story. The SSC representative told me that they would still ship one to me if it became available. Now why would they do that if they had met their quota? That would be going against the agreement with HT.


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[Chr0n0]

It still applies. Even more so with exclusives. If it's a sideshow exclusive, there are ten or so different "exclusives" versions of hot toys, the area it's for sale is still controlled and governed by the lie cing agreement. They can sell a standard version in some areas, but not the sideshow exclusive because it makes an unfair advantage, or more appropriate, hinders other licensed sellers from competing with SS on a level field.

The licensing agreement from Hot Toys tells each licensed/authorized dealer what product they can and can not sell in what region. That's not theory. It's fact. The exact details behind that agreement are affected by many things, including the studios Hot Toys works with, and the agreements they have with other sellers.

The sideshow exclusive is not going to be availble in all areas. Not every figure will be available from every retailor in every area/region. It's not some crazy business move, or lack of thinking on the retailers part, nor is it some conspiracy or an act to stick it to any one or any region.

The places (regions) that each figure, and each version of that figure(IE exclusive) are made available for purchase are not controlled by the retailer (ie sideshow or any other authorized dealer) they are written into the contract they each have with Hot Toys, as well as the Licensing agreement Hot Toys has with the license holder (the studios like Sony and Marvel and owners of the IP like DC and hasbro).

Except that doesn't explain why one week and item is available to sell to a territory, the next it's not, then it is, then it isn't. I know for a fact the WS Black Widow figure changed 4 times. It either is available or it's not. The Ironman Mark VII Battle damage exclusive was never available. It sucked, but that was the licensing agreement. Things changing arbitrarily from week to week likely has nothing to do with the licensing agreement. They know what the agreement/contract is when it goes up for PO. That doesn't change.

Yes indeed. As I said, Motuxmen is correct for other situations but not this one, as my Starlord Ex pre-order proves. Otherwise every time SSC randomly changed their mind about allowing purchases from Australia, they would be wilfully choosing to break their license agreement with HT and putting their ability to sell their products at risk.

 

[koon]

Just means you're within that quota. The std has not been available to NZ for a long time now.

 

[Chr0n0]

Just means you're within that quota. The std has not been available to NZ for a long time now.

Yes, I know what it means, thanks. I was saying that if Motuxmen's theory was applicable, I would not have been able to order the figure at all.

 

[Motuxmen]

I was not talking about a figure selling out. There's nothing crazy about that. There should be no question about that. I was Talking about the statements that one version was available to a region and another not, or one figure of a group (GotG) was not but other where.

If a figure goes up for sale, then is no longer up for sale that's a stock issue obviously. Even if it comes back up for order. If you read two pages on this forum you can explain that, it's people placing and canceling orders.

And yes that is why a region would have this happen. Sideshow is the distributor for Australia. Every authorized seller in the region gets their stock thru sideshow. Sideshow has an allocated stock level for each figure in that area. This includes their sales and the amount the offer to or thru other retailers. When a retailor has ordered cancled they cancled them with sideshow (sometimes depending on their own contract with sideshow and the time) so sideshow gets extra stock. When they get a certain number they reopen that regions orders thru their site, then when sold out they are closed again. That's how one person can have an order for a figure that another will see as unavailable to australia.

The only random part about it, and only part that "reeks" as was said is that people place a preorder and even though they know they are not 100% going to buy the figure. That's why sideshow is now doing more and more NRDs.

 

[Sidewinder]

So I understand that when it comes to the regular figures, however Australian retailers buying from SSC are not ordering the Exclusive because that is not available to buy in Australia.

SSC have too much of a monopoly over the western market imo. There should be other suppliers that can order product directly from HT.

I feel these allocations seem to be more prominent now as I never had issues in the past with items not shipping to Australia. I really don't have a problem with the regular figures as it is cheaper to buy locally now anyway. It's just the odd exclusive here and there that I really want and am disappointed that the only place I could by is on the aftermarket for an inflated price.

Anyway, it's not the end of the world, I'll pick up the StarLord regular at some stage.

I guess the best option is to watch the boards and preorder immediately to avoid a waitlist situation again.

 

[LipSmack]

Yeah Sideshow very rarely sells exclusives to retailers, reg versions are fair game. and I also agree Sideshow has too much on its plate, but it is what it is and likely will not change until they have a falling out with HT's or one of them goes bankrupt

 

[koon]

I'm saying I'm not able to order the figure at all.

 

[H1mcgdnrc]

Loading envelopes tonight, get in by tonight to be in the first batch.

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/...some-mix-vol-2-package-taking-payments-8.html

 

[Setalight]

Really tempted to get Starlord

 

[Motuxmen]

I'm saying I'm not able to order the figure at all.

And I'm saying that's because it's sold out in that area. It was available then it sold out. It's really not complicated. The allocated amount to your region has sold out, so now it says it's unable to ship to your region.

 

[Brainiac]

Really tempted to get Starlord

Figure came out great, I would definitely recommend grabbing one

 

[Setalight]

Might have to, found it for £170 at CollectiblesDirect.