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[HottoyzJoker]

I like the normal name plate stands that come with these... How are people supposed to know its Joker Bank Robber Ver... Without the stand??? An that the movie its form is the Dark Knight... Yes there are people out there who see Joker and get confused about what movie he's from...

 

[wookster]

I like the normal name plate stands that come with these... How are people supposed to know its Joker Bank Robber Ver... Without the stand??? An that the movie its form is the Dark Knight... Yes there are people out there who see Joker and get confused about what movie he's from...

I don't mean to be rude... but are you serious or joking?

I guess it's horses for courses but the thing that has kept me away from so many statues is the bloody great logo's and nameplates they put on things. If someone doesn't know what they are looking at, then perhaps they aren't worth bothering with.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Just a heads-up - James Cameron's episode of Inside the Actors Studio is on Bravo tonight at 7pm in the US. With Bravo UK, I have nothing. I'll have to find it somewhere on the net!

Stephen 'Quaritch' Lang is in the front row!

 

[HottoyzJoker]

It was a joke... I do like the stands though... I dont know why but I think they complete the figure whenever I display figure without them I think they look kind of uncomplete thats just me though... Like somethings missing for some reason...

 

[wookster]

It was a joke... I do like the stands though... I dont know why but I think they complete the figure whenever I display figure without them I think they look kind of uncomplete thats just me though... Like somethings missing for some reason...

That's fair enough... but you had me worried there!

 

[shakesnake]

I can't remember where, but i heard that the regular stands for hot toys messes up the rubberised skin and i guess that the figures will have rubberised skin.

 

[Hydeous]

probably like abe saphien

 

[The Entity]

It was a joke... I do like the stands though... I dont know why but I think they complete the figure whenever I display figure without them I think they look kind of uncomplete thats just me though... Like somethings missing for some reason...

I agree completely. I think the stands look great and I have posed all my figs with the stand. Also for that bit of extra stability.

 

[Maglor]

Maybe they will provide an environmental stand like the P1 stand or JCFB stand. Thus more of us wouldn't mind using those stands.

Actually, when I am forced to use a stand I much prefer it to be basic and black. My favorite stands are the plain ones that come with the plain TT figures. I don't even like the name plate. IMHO environmental stands make action figures look like statues and I don't want that.

It was a joke... I do like the stands though... I dont know why but I think they complete the figure whenever I display figure without them I think they look kind of uncomplete thats just me though... Like somethings missing for some reason...

I agree completely. I think the stands look great and I have posed all my figs with the stand. Also for that bit of extra stability.

No skin of my nose if that's what you guys prefer, but I gotta say I can't personally comprehend this thinking.

I like to make it look like there are actually 1/6 scale people standing on my shelf. More dynamic poses sell that more. And more dynamic poses are possible when you don't use a stand. Also, generally speaking real people don't have big metal wires around their waist or pushing up into their crotch, so it makes a 1/6 scale person look less real. I'm just sayin'.

I used stands at first because I was afraid they would take a tumble. But they limited my posing options so stopped using them so I could just get better poses. Whether its stood differently, stepping of a base (like predators base) or mid action poses like Darth Maul or Iron Man. Some look better just stood there all intimidating, like Batman, but some really look best when theres some movement implied.

Once find the centre of balance then its no problem. Way I test if its stable enough is get it posed and then blow on it as hard as I can from all directions to see if its off balance. Works for me. Sounds daft but does work. Only time anything has taken a bit of a tumble is when I've been a clumzy klutz and knocked the shelf or figure or what ever, causing it to lose its balance. But then I've been there to scream like a girl and catch it.

+1

I agree with all of that. I have a similar method for testing my figures. I will gently tap them from each direction, and if I feel the same sturdiness from each direction then I know that I have gotten the center of gravity right. If a figure doesn't fall from a direct touch like that then certainly walking by them isn't going to make them fall. I will even jump up and down in front of my figures to see if that king of movement will effect them. Talk about 'sounding daft'!

Unfortunately some Sideshow figures have week joints or no flat foot surface (e.g. the Monty Python, Holy Grail figures) and that can mean being forced to use a stand. However there are tricks to make ankles more sturdy: I like to jam folded up electrical tape in their shoes! It works really really well!

But none of my HT figures have joints that are so weak they would require a stand. So right now none of mine use them.

 

[Mongoleone]

I use stands 1: because they are on an open shelf above my computer desk and 2: I have most of them posed in a dynamic half-step walking pose and the stand not only allows them to stay upright like that when they otherwise couldn’t, but also allows the front foot to be planted on the stand while the back foot is on the shelf surface giving the legs even more bend. I don't like them standing straight up with their legs together.

 

[a-dev]

And more dynamic poses are possible when you don't use a stand.

In my experience more dynamic poses are the very poses that need the stands most!

I will even jump up and down in front of my figures to see if that king of movement will effect them. Talk about 'sounding daft'!

Ha ha yeah I do that if I don't have any stands available. In my old room I had wonky floorboards and a freestanding shelving unit - not a good combination.

 

[Maglor]

I use stands 1: because they are on an open shelf above my computer desk and 2: I have most of them posed in a dynamic half-step walking pose and the stand not only allows them to stay upright like that when they otherwise couldn’t, but also allows the front foot to be planted on the stand while the back foot is on the shelf surface giving the legs even more bend. I don't like them standing straight up with their legs together.

Just to be clear: when I use the word "stand" I don't mean base. I do like a plain black base occasionally but I don't like to use the stand.

Example:

Notice that marcus has his foot up on the base just like you said.

Here is another example of a 'foot up' pose:

This is a piece of wood painted gloss black.


Both of these examples are totally different than "stands."


I will post an example of what I mean regarding more dynamic poses without a stand...

 

[Maglor]

I will post an example of what I mean regarding more dynamic poses without a stand...

It seems like stands tend to keep a figure restricted to this kind of pose from the waist down:

photo credit: Fremen


Whereas the abandonment of a stand allows a pose like this:

Besides the dynamic nature of this pose, wouldn't it detract from the realizm of the figure to have a black post going up behind its butt with metal wires pressing up into his crotch and possibly effecting the way the jaket lays?
[Notice that I am using the DX base in this pic, but that is quite different than using a stand which has the metal thing in the crotch.]

I realize that this is an over generalization and that there are examples of dynamic poses that are only possible with a stand. As Mongoleone says:

I use stands 1: because they are on an open shelf above my computer desk and 2: I have most of them posed in a dynamic half-step walking pose and the stand not only allows them to stay upright like that when they otherwise couldn’t, but also allows the front foot to be planted on the stand while the back foot is on the shelf surface giving the legs even more bend. I don't like them standing straight up with their legs together.

Basically, the only time a stand is necessary in terms of dynamic poses is when you want to take a figure out of it's center of gravity (i.e a motion pose such as walking). These poses often look goofy to me. Not always but often.

 

[Eamon]

Just to be clear: when I use the word "stand" I don't mean base. I do like a plain black base occasionally but I don't like to use the stand.

Example:

Notice that marcus has his foot up on the base just like you said.

Here is another example of a 'foot up' pose:

This is a piece of wood painted gloss black.


Both of these examples are totally different than "stands."


I will post an example of what I mean regarding more dynamic poses without a stand...

You ain't looking to sell one of those Marcus' are ya?

 

[Maglor]

LOL, no, I have patiently been waiting for parts to be shipped from Hong Kong so that I could build 2 complete figures. The last thing I am waiting for is a second set of hands. (As you can see the Marcus with the blue coat has one gloveless TT hand right now.)

I just love both head sculpts so much I had to display both, plus I really wanted to show of the damaged muscle arms and the awesome blue jacket!



Also, having both on display kind of tells the story of T:S.

 

[Mongoleone]

It seems like stands tend to keep a figure restricted to this kind of pose from the waist down:

Not at all, I'll snap a pic when I get home. Be warned, my camera SUX.

I use the base like you to do for the one foot up thing, dig that Vader by the way, but I use the stand as well so they don't topple and shatter.

Ideally, I wouldn't need a stand, but I don’t trust them to stay up by themselves. That's just the difference between figures and statues to me.

 

[Maglor]

Not at all, I'll snap a pic when I get home. Be warned, my camera SUX.
I use the base like you to do for the one foot up thing, dig that Vader by the way, but I use the stand as well so they don't topple and shatter.

Ideally, I wouldn't need a stand, but I don’t trust them to stay up by themselves. That's just the difference between figures and statues to me.

No worries about the camera! I look forward to it!.

I hope you read my whole post because I do acknowledge that at lease motion poses are better with a stand. I once saw a great walking pose done with the DX Joker using the stand. But usually motion poses look a bit doppy to me. I like my figures to be either kind of looking still and tough ( like the Vader above) or poised for action (like the Cop Joker above) rather than in action/motion.


I have an open mind though and hope you can expand it!

 

[Johnny Utah]

Jesus lock this thread until we get pics...........

 

[Centrocal]

Jesus lock this thread until we get pics...........

This is me waiting for Avatar pics :

 

[ironwez20]

love that show, but ive been saying this for since the freaking things were announced