1/6 Hot Toys - BvS: Dawn of Justice - Batman

[Azrael23]

I wouldn't say that exactly. Particularly when two of the Trinity are sooooo off model. Batman's a (major) killer, so is Supes. Supes is depressed, deep in thought and almost mopey. We'll see how they portray WW.

Superman being "deep in thought" isn't necessarily what I consider any sort of mischaracterization. If anything
he tends to be wary, not depressed. Infact his old fashion idealism within a modern setting is what kept him at odds with
Perry White throughout the film. Also his disposition within the context of the film is somewhat justifiable given how divisive
the world is regarding his existence. I definitely didn't see him as a major killer though.

 

[sj2106]

Supes is hardly a major killer. He killed Zod who was about to wipe out every human being on the planet. No jury would convict him for that lol.

 

[halbert]

You can just take the boots off. It's attached on a ball joint.

You might have to reattach the wrists.

Study how the mechanism works and go from there. Not hard and no need to worry.

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The feet are removable, just ball joints, and the boots are removable as well. If you are talking about the plastic that his lower legs/boots come wrapped in, you can just carefully peel the tape or carefully cut it off. Some HTs will have wrist pegs issue, but that's from the outfit/guantlet making it hard to get a snug fit.

OK thanks guys.

 

[halbert]

Feel silly asking about the ankles now after trying it out, piece of cake!

Gotta say, absolutely love this figure. Keeps growing on me. Just holding it your hand it feels like high quality. Just a fantastic figure

 

[SilverStar17]

Again this is all perspective and opinion but I appreciate the debate as it takes my mind off politics and news.

The civil war premise of registration was a good nod to the comic. I thought.

Tony's parents being murdered and him watching the tape and then trying to kill Bucky out of revenge was pretty real for me. Raw and real.

Yes Cap is a sap.

And for the record I'm a fan of the DCEU - really liked MoS and really liked BVS UE - I like my super man to be human and conflicted. I like my batman to be a brood and headstrong at times.

I do wish the doomsday thing wasn't forced in but they way the handled with nod to the comics I enjoyed.


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Agree with this. Good analysis.

My favorite MCU movies are actually TWS and CW, and that's because they feel more grounded in reality than any of the other ones as far as dealing with relatable, real issues and integrating these characters into them, as well as dealing with real consequences.

I personally didn't mind how Doomsday was handled also. I like how Lex introduced him as "your Doomsday" rather than actually naming him Doomsday. I personally think people think he is more of a major villain than what he actually is, and that's simply because he kills Superman. That's what makes him a "major" villain in the canon. Outside of that, he's not really any sort of mastermind. Simply a mindless brute that only knows destruction. So in essence, he served his purpose and did the task that makes the character a major villain: kill Superman. Or in the words of Nucelar Man, "Destroy, Superman."

In CW in the MCU, Crossbones did serve a purpose to the plot of the film in his very short lived appearance, but as far as canon goes, he didn't serve his purpose, which is kill Captain America. Doomsday served his purpose and killed Superman.

Superman being "deep in thought" isn't necessarily what I consider any sort of mischaracterization. If anything
he tends to be wary, not depressed. Infact his old fashion idealism within a modern setting is what kept him at odds with
Perry White throughout the film. Also his disposition within the context of the film is somewhat justifiable given how divisive
the world is regarding his existence. I definitely didn't see him as a major killer though.

Agreed. "Major killer" I think is a bit hyperbolic.

 

[Lee in MI]

Superman being "deep in thought" isn't necessarily what I consider any sort of mischaracterization. If anything
he tends to be wary, not depressed. Infact his old fashion idealism within a modern setting is what kept him at odds with
Perry White throughout the film. Also his disposition within the context of the film is somewhat justifiable given how divisive
the world is regarding his existence. I definitely didn't see him as a major killer though.

Batman's the major killer...Supes is a killer. I put that in parentheses..."major" referred to Batman. But Supes also killed that guy in the first scene when he smashed him through that concrete wall to save Lois. Clark was at odds with PW cause he wouldn't do his job. :Lol

To each his own...Supes being conflicted and detached really took the wind out the sails of the final scene...just didn't care that he was dead. The animated Death of Superman was honestly better imo.

 

[Lee in MI]

Agree with this. Good analysis.

My favorite MCU movies are actually TWS and CW, and that's because they feel more grounded in reality than any of the other ones as far as dealing with relatable, real issues and integrating these characters into them, as well as dealing with real consequences.

I personally didn't mind how Doomsday was handled also. I like how Lex introduced him as "your Doomsday" rather than actually naming him Doomsday. I personally think people think he is more of a major villain than what he actually is, and that's simply because he kills Superman. That's what makes him a "major" villain in the canon. Outside of that, he's not really any sort of mastermind. Simply a mindless brute that only knows destruction. So in essence, he served his purpose and did the task that makes the character a major villain: kill Superman. Or in the words of Nucelar Man, "Destroy, Superman."

In CW in the MCU, Crossbones did serve a purpose to the plot of the film, but as far as canon goes, he didn't serve his purpose, which is kill Captain America. Doomsday served his purpose and killed Superman.



Agreed. "Major killer" I think is a bit hyperbolic.

I didn't say Supes was a major killer. Try rereading my post. "Major" referred to Batman...but Supes was and is a killer. Regardless of his reason, it flies in the face of who the character has been flushed out traditionally to be.

Glad you guys enjoy the films but like it or not they don't really measure up to the MCU for most folks. The DCU is about as good as the MCUs average run of the mill movie. More on par with their mildly successful films but nowhere near MCUs best movies.

Maybe they'll get better but the signs so far would lead me to believe they still don't know how to right the ship.

 

[SilverStar17]

I didn't say Supes was a major killer. Try rereading my post. "Major" referred to Batman...but Supes was and is a killer. Regardless of his reason, it flies in the face of who the character has been flushed out traditionally to be.

Glad you guys enjoy the films but like it or not they don't really measure up to the MCU for most folks. The DCU is about as good as the MCUs average run of the mill movie. More on par with their mildly successful films but nowhere near MCUs best movies.

Maybe they'll get better but the signs so far would lead me to believe they still don't know how to right the ship.

I never said you stated he was a major killer? I was just agreeing with Azrael's post where he stated that he doesn't see DCEU Supes as a major killer. I think referring to him as such would be a bit hyperbolic, as I mentioned.

And that's fine. For my personal tastes in a superhero film though (which is all that matters to me), I prefer the DCEU to the MCU and I think as an aggregate whole, the DCEU's first offerings in phase 1 are better films than the MCU's first offerings in phase 1. Even though there's nothing "realistic" about the physical abilities of the characters, I feel the DCEU is a little more complex, grounded in reality, explores real ramifications to a decision made or an action done and is a bit more emotional.

 

[ArtDamage]

I like them both and see really no reason to continue this never ending debate here


In getting back to the figure does anyone have a shot of this figure with the tony mei cape? How do you like it?

 

[SilverStar17]

I like them both and see really no reason to continue this never ending debate here


In getting back to the figure does anyone have a shot of this figure with the tony mei cape? How do you like it?

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[ArtDamage]

yeah saw that. Was hoping there was more first hand experience and in hand shots. I've heard the TM capes are hitting stateside now.

 

[dario2739]

I didn't say Supes was a major killer. Try rereading my post. "Major" referred to Batman...but Supes was and is a killer. Regardless of his reason, it flies in the face of who the character has been flushed out traditionally to be.

Glad you guys enjoy the films but like it or not they don't really measure up to the MCU for most folks. The DCU is about as good as the MCUs average run of the mill movie. More on par with their mildly successful films but nowhere near MCUs best movies.

Maybe they'll get better but the signs so far would lead me to believe they still don't know how to right the ship.

Batman is not a 'Major' killer – he does kill, not denying it - but not to the extent has been highlighted... it is, as POTUS would say, 'Fake News'.
I remember the video that came out, with a BvS body count for Batman – if you actually watch the video, over half of the count are not actually 'real'... the first count for example sites the car Batman smashes into the portakabin... watch the movie again - the car is empty!
And sure – Superman kills Zod, but he was left with little choice and it absolutely destroyed him to do it.... but nearly every Avenger has killed in the 'child-friendly' MCU movies – why are they exempt from criticism... in the first 5 minutes of AoU the body count is shocking!

As for measuring up 'for most folks' – Marvel/Disney have hit a formula that works, it has become increasingly a Disney film with real actors for me personally, and I think the fact the movies are aimed at kids and teens helps their popularity – nothing wrong with that, but I do feel that the increasing similarity in the movies will be ultimately detrimental to the franchise.
As for DCEU's best being on par with Marvel's run-of-the-mill... now you're just trolling! If i'm honest, MoS is my all-time favourite Superhero movie – Superman is treated seriously, his powers are treated seriously – the damage caused is a reflection of what would happen if beings that powerful fought in a built-up City – I appreciated that. Marvel's run-of-the-mill movies don't exist for me – they are either good, or mediocre –*take both Thor movies, Ant-Man, AoU, the first Hulk movie and Dr. Strange... they're terrible movies that I would skip past on TV... yet MoS, BvS and movies like Watchmen, the Hellboy films and the last Dredd movie to me are all vastly superior –*for me, it's because those movies treat the characters with respect and stick close to their comic book roots –*something Marvel sacrificed.

 

[dario2739]

Again this is all perspective and opinion but I appreciate the debate as it takes my mind off politics and news.

The civil war premise of registration was a good nod to the comic. I thought.

Tony's parents being murdered and him watching the tape and then trying to kill Bucky out of revenge was pretty real for me. Raw and real.

Yes Cap is a sap.

And for the record I'm a fan of the DCEU - really liked MoS and really liked BVS UE - I like my super man to be human and conflicted. I like my batman to be a brood and headstrong at times.

I do wish the doomsday thing wasn't forced in but they way the handled with nod to the comics I enjoyed.

In regards to the highlighted bit – the end fight between IM, Cap and Bucky was lauded by a lot of people at the time –*I found it laughable.
Let's face it, we've seen IM's armour in action many times – the suit is capable of taking multiple targets... tanks etc. etc., yet the fight consisted of Cap having a go at IM, passing the shield to Bucky and him having a go... and repeat! Why not both just attack him at the same time instead of taking turns? And why didn't IM - if he really wanted to kill Bucky, just take him out with a few missiles...

...the scene was visually great, but (for me at least) was not raw or real.... Compare that to Superman fighting Faora and Nam-Ek in Smallville.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

Same here – for the money these figures cost, I don't have the bottle to do anything to them... however I do like the look of the Unreal Toys cape replacement... just wish they'd do a properly 'scalloped' version.

a good cheapish alternative scalloped cape could be the sideshow batman cape ,ive got a blue one sprayed black ,ill dig it out and give it a spin
pictures to follow if it looks any good

 

[dario2739]

I wouldn't say that exactly. Particularly when two of the Trinity are sooooo off model. Batman's a (major) killer, so is Supes. Supes is depressed, deep in thought and almost mopey. We'll see how they portray WW.

Agreed. But the BvS premise was absurd. Jolly Rancher Lex pulling the strings to get the two to fight to the death

The manipulation, by Lex, is very subtle - and superbly done, his dialogue and wordplay are superb too... both things unfortunately were too subtle for most people to grasp!

As for the trinity being off model... have you read a comic recently? All three are pretty damn-near spot on... if anything the only criticism you can level at Snyder is that he is too faithful to the subject material!
Again, compare that to the MCU – Tony Stark/IM is so completely off model – they literally changed the character for the movie. Is Ant-Man a comedian in the comics... always a serious guy in the one's i've read!?!

 

[dario2739]

a good cheapish alternative scalloped cape could be the sideshow batman cape ,ive got a blue one sprayed black ,ill dig it out and give it a spin
pictures to follow if it looks any good

Did you spray black to get a certain result? I'm thinking the black cape off the black/grey Sideshow figure could work... and I also have a spare cape off TDK Batman, which i'd forgot about - i'll give that a try too.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

okay ,yeah i dont have the sideshow black bats ,but from what i understand ,black is cut from the same pattern but is a different type of fabric with less drape and flow . so i sprayed a blue one black with watered down fabric paint .worked out okay ,there is a little show through ,but not as visible in hand as in the picture and another coat would probably eliminate it

so the pictures ,well not too everyones taste im sure , but then again what is

but not completely horrible

poor picture alert

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

couple more

like i say not everyones piece of toast but could work for a cheap over the shoulder option

 

[dario2739]

couple more

like i say not everyones piece of toast but could work for a cheap over the shoulder option

Thanks for the photos –*the cape works very well - it's a really good size, and I always love to see Batman's cape drape down at the front - one thing I wish Snyder had included in BvS... fingers crossed we see that pose in JL.

 

[halbert]

That look with the cape draping in front of his shoulders like that is just such a classic look, you did a great job!