Hot Toys DX09 - BATMAN - Batman (Michael Keaton) - Specs & Pics

[guyver1]

I hope you bought a second one.

This is actually a second HS I received and bought and I still have another bats coming.

Oh believe me, there is no way I would've attempted this, much less, actually nick up the cowl if this wasn't a spare.

When my second Bats arrives, I'm going for the whole suit BD look, including the cape. Can't wait!

But for now, I'm happy swapping HS so I can have the two different versions to display.

Again I can't stress how great this figure is to work with.

 

[tommyh84]

Looking at this thread is the emotional equivalent of having a toothpick shoved in your urethra.

I wish I could say he didn't live up to the hype when I got him in hand but he really does. Hope you dont have too much longer a wait mate

 

[Batfreak]

Of course you left out the part where TDK is the 2nd highest grossing movie ever and made over a billion dollars. That's not alienating many.

Now I'm not sticking up for Nolan's version because I agree with you to a point -- I believe there should be an element of fantasy to the Batman world (although B&R is just inane to me). I also believe Nolan's Batman is a little too CSI at times considering there's a guy in a Batsuit running around. I don't believe the Nolanverse will be remembered 10 years from now quite as fondly as it is today. Not saying people won't like them, just mean the ecstatic reverence will soften. I think people will look back at these as somewhat dry, stilted and emotionless.

tthats what i think as well. i dont think there is anything "timeless" about the nolan movies like tim burtons were. burtons films have a classic old school quality that i do believe, aside from some hairstyles and music, has stood the test of time rather brilliantly. nolans already looks pretty dated with texting and all thattechnology thats used. even batmans SUV screams dated already, whereas the classic timeless design of the batmobole from 89 looks like it could exist during any period.

 

[jye4ever]

I might love the art design of the 89 batmobile but the Tumbler blows it away in the necessary performance criteria.

89 Batmobile looks out of place doing anything other than standing still or going straight thru the woods.

 

[DiFabio]

but the Tumbler blows it away in the necessary performance criteria.

Which is essentially just hopping around.


In that case, the Batman Forever Batmobile is the best, not only did it drive fast, cut extremely sharp turns with ease, but it could go side to side with the wheels magically turning inward. Oh, and it could drive up the sides of walls. Basically anything, it could hop too.

 

[Maglor]

i know what your saying, the new bat films are extremly different from the last ones. but see, that is what i do NOT like about them. they are too heavy on the realism and philisophical humdrum that i just dont care for. joker wasnt joker for me, just another killer pshycho trying to "prove" some kinda extisential belief or something heavy handed like that. same thing with Ras. just not into them, its all YAWN. i'd much rather watch tommy lee and carrey acting like hyper kids blowing stuff up and laughing like crazy, penguin spewing black stuff biting peoples noses or joker making "killer" commercials useing his smilex and not the brand XSSSSSSSSS. the older movies were fun, plain and simple. the new movies miss the fun and fantasy of batman, and i didnt experience the same feeling of excitement that the older movies had.

I didn't think there was anything "heavy handed" about Nolan's Joker. Yes he's a psycho killer (as Joker should be - and Nicholson's was as well), but it's not like he had some profound agenda like the League of Shadows. Joker is just emptiness and chaos. I know many are tired of "Heath Ledger Hype" but his character gives me chills.



“Some men just want to watch the world burn...”

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I get the sentiment about the Burton films being more whimsical and fun and I love them for it. But I also a love a film with real gravity and depth - yes even in a superhero movie with a guy dressed as a Bat.

Of course you left out the part where TDK is the 2nd highest grossing movie ever and made over a billion dollars. That's not alienating many.

Now I'm not sticking up for Nolan's version because I agree with you to a point -- I believe there should be an element of fantasy to the Batman world (although B&R is just inane to me). I also believe Nolan's Batman is a little too CSI at times considering there's a guy in a Batsuit running around. I don't believe the Nolanverse will be remembered 10 years from now quite as fondly as it is today. Not saying people won't like them, just mean the ecstatic reverence will soften. I think people will look back at these as somewhat dry, stilted and emotionless.

Will be interesting to see...

tthats what i think as well. i dont think there is anything "timeless" about the nolan movies like tim burtons were. burtons films have a classic old school quality that i do believe, aside from some hairstyles and music, has stood the test of time rather brilliantly. nolans already looks pretty dated with texting and all thattechnology thats used. even batmans SUV screams dated already, whereas the classic timeless design of the batmobole from 89 looks like it could exist during any period.

I don't get how anyone could think that Nolan's Batman is more dated than Burton's. I think they are actually both pretty timeless. But the songs in '89 surely push it a little further into the dated category.

 

[Batfreak]

well thats your opinion which is all well and fine, but im sticking with mine. frankly im just tired of all the fanboyism and pompousness surrounding nolans films, which is why i rarely say anything about those movies. it almost always gets out of hand and lots of nasty things said on both sides. so i will in this case just agree to disagree.

 

[Maglor]

The difference is I like both for what they are.


No "fanboyism and pompousness" here so...

 

[Batfreak]

i tried likeing the nolan movies. i really tried. i remember being excited when begins came out as i was leaving high school. but.......i was dissapointed. i thought things would improve with TDK but i was even MORE then dissapointed, i was downright pissed at what they did to joker. thats a character i wished they HADNT changed so drastically. burtons penguin i thought was a great change simply because in the comics, he is a BORING character. but joker? hes never boring. so i didnt feel they should have changed him into a greasy painted up dirty harry scorpio-ripoff. i understand the need to do something "different" with the character, but they could have gone in many differen directions then the painted up emo bum they went with who burns money and no classic joker gags at all. and please dont get me started on his "scarecrow". ha. burlap bag man. i have since renamed him SINO.

but that is just how i feel about nolans "changes". just not crazy about them.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Believe me, Burton's films have their flaws too. For the most part, they are unfocused, skit-driven "moments" where the major star gets a chance to really ham it up and have a ball. Both Nicholson and DeVito seemed at times like they were just adlibing the whole thing. The first Batman movie started with some focus, lost it in the second act, and regained it in the finale. I'm not certain what the heck the driving story was in "Returns"...it was all over the place, and then just ended... badly (the Penguin would say).

From a storytelling POV, Nolan hands down wins the fight. From a visual POV, I believe Burton wins that round with his amazing envisioning, which Nolan even nods to with his first suit.

 

[Batfreak]

i thinkt he big difference between us is that i love burton films BECAUSE of those so called "imperfections". thats what makes the movies fun and entertaining. i was never a critic. i dont go "OO JEE WIZ WAS THIS MOVIE ACTUALLY WELL MADE? LET ME THINK ABOUT DIS" and then attempt to critique it. i go by how i felt watching it, how it effected me emotionally. when i watch a comic book movie i want to see exciting visuals, not everyday boring stuff i can watch on an episode of CSI or NYPD. i still love those original films far more then anything that came later. i feel the new ones while perhaps better made STORY wise, just lost the emotional impact for me. i just felt the new movies were boring, in every aspect practically.

 

[Eamon]

Believe me, Burton's films have their flaws too. For the most part, they are unfocused, skit-driven "moments" where the major star gets a chance to really ham it up and have a ball. Both Nicholson and DeVito seemed at times like they were just adlibing the whole thing. The first Batman movie started with some focus, lost it in the second act, and regained it in the finale. I'm not certain what the heck the driving story was in "Returns"...it was all over the place, and then just ended... badly (the Penguin would say).

From a storytelling POV, Nolan hands down wins the fight. From a visual POV, I believe Burton wins that round with his amazing envisioning, which Nolan even nods to with his first suit.

I completely agree! I watched Burton Batman a few weeks and ago and found it all a bit dull. It looks great, still resonates and I will always love it but it's just one scene after another and you just watch top actors having a whale of a time.

 

[DiFabio]

I don't understand how anyone who likes the Burton films could hate the Nolan ones and vice versa. There's nothing bad or boring about either of them. Nothing.

 

[Karnis]

The difference is I like both for what they are.


No "fanboyism and pompousness" here so...

You sir have one of these:

Congratulations.

 

[Batfreak]

well again thats your opinion. if you like them, even love them, good for. but i myself just dont like them. i find them dull and visually drab, and the stories cliched and boring. but thats just me, and i know im not alone in thinking that. for those who are exicted for these newer films, good for you. but im waiting for the next series for a dirctor who hopefully will go back to the comic book style of the original films. until then, im fine with my oldschool batman. i am well aware right now i am in the minority, but im fine with that. i just want others to accept that i just did not like the new ones, and not go "WHAAAT??" reactions. it gets old, and thats why i left SSH. too much nolanism going on there, and no acceptance of others opinions or feelings about things.

 

[Maglor]

i tried likeing the nolan movies. i really tried. i remember being excited when begins came out as i was leaving high school. but.......i was dissapointed. i thought things would improve with TDK but i was even MORE then dissapointed, i was downright pissed at what they did to joker. thats a character i wished they HADNT changed so drastically. burtons penguin i thought was a great change simply because in the comics, he is a BORING character. but joker? hes never boring. so i didnt feel they should have changed him into a greasy painted up dirty harry scorpio-ripoff. i understand the need to do something "different" with the character, but they could have gone in many differen directions then the painted up emo bum they went with who burns money and no classic joker gags at all. and please dont get me started on his "scarecrow". ha. burlap bag man. i have since renamed him SINO.

but that is just how i feel about nolans "changes". just not crazy about them.

Das cool. Just want to be clear your the opinionated one in this conversation.

Believe me, Burton's films have their flaws too. For the most part, they are unfocused, skit-driven "moments" where the major star gets a chance to really ham it up and have a ball. Both Nicholson and DeVito seemed at times like they were just adlibing the whole thing. The first Batman movie started with some focus, lost it in the second act, and regained it in the finale. I'm not certain what the heck the driving story was in "Returns"...it was all over the place, and then just ended... badly (the Penguin would say).

From a storytelling POV, Nolan hands down wins the fight. From a visual POV, I believe Burton wins that round with his amazing envisioning, which Nolan even nods to with his first suit.

Nice balanced post there.

 

[preeny101]

Can you like both? I mean, I prefer blondes. Doesn't mean I dislike redheads.

 

[Batfreak]

for me this is more like comparing a fat chick and a thin chick. i see nolans movies as unattractive in that way (ie, a "fat" chick). maybe some people love chubby women, but i myself do not.


also, im naturally going to be the opinionated one since im probably one of the only people on this board who heavily dislike the nolan movies whereas most here do like them.

 

[Maglor]

i thinkt he big difference between us is that i love burton films BECAUSE of those so called "imperfections". thats what makes the movies fun and entertaining. i was never a critic. i dont go "OO JEE WIZ WAS THIS MOVIE ACTUALLY WELL MADE? LET ME THINK ABOUT DIS" and then attempt to critique it. i go by how i felt watching it, how it effected me emotionally. when i watch a comic book movie i want to see exciting visuals, not everyday boring stuff i can watch on an episode of CSI or NYPD. i still love those original films far more then anything that came later. i feel the new ones while perhaps better made STORY wise, just lost the emotional impact for me. i just felt the new movies were boring, in every aspect practically.

Exactly.

I feel the Nolan Bat movies on a deep level. I am emotionally effected by them. They give me chills (literal goose-bumps), and even bring me to tears. The Burton films don't. And neither does CSI.

 

[Eamon]

I think it's kinda hard to dislike anything Batman really!