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The sign of a popular and well conversed thread is constant derailings. Since there is no new information or photos to discuss, what else are we supposed to do? History shows that once something new is posted we all get back on track.........like good little children. 
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EVILFACE
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Are you trying to tell us Hot Toys is going to make the Back to the Future Train????
Oh well, since everyone else is doing it...
Strictly comic-based superhero movies:
1. Superman ('78)/Superman II
2. Iron Man
3. Spider-Man 2
4. X2
5. Batman Begins (the final act keeps this from being in the Top 3)
I have a feeling that TDK and Watchmen will make this list. If Watchmen is even halfway competent or halfway as good as it's looking so far, it might just shoot right to the top of the list.
I think The Incredible Hulk is good, but a tad overrated already. To me it's nowhere near as good as the 5 on this list.
Strictly comic-based superhero movies:
1. Superman ('78)/Superman II
2. Iron Man
3. Spider-Man 2
4. X2
5. Batman Begins (the final act keeps this from being in the Top 3)
I have a feeling that TDK and Watchmen will make this list. If Watchmen is even halfway competent or halfway as good as it's looking so far, it might just shoot right to the top of the list.
I think The Incredible Hulk is good, but a tad overrated already. To me it's nowhere near as good as the 5 on this list.
How can you even think about rating X2 over BB? Not to mention you didn't include Sin City, Road to Perdition, History of Violence, V for Vendetta or even 300.
And yes, I know it's just your opinion but....
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Shai, look at what we started! 4-5 pages of derailment!
EVILFACE
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If you notice, these are top lists. Just cause Incredible Hulk is new, doesn't make it a top movie.
How can you even think about rating X2 over BB? Not to mention you didn't include Sin City, Road to Perdition, History of Violence, V for Vendetta or even 300.
You missed that I stated my list was for super hero movies only, not ALL comic book adaptations. I love all of those others you mentioned, and some would indeed be ranked higher than some of the super hero flicks... but I'm keeping my ranking more specific to the genre.
And I do think X2 is better than BATMAN BEGINS overall. BB falls apart in the final act. If it was a great as the first 2/3 of the movie it'd be way up there, no brainer. But the whole train and vaporized water supply sequence was so over-the-top and more like Burton/Schumacher crap than what Nolan was doing for the majority of the film. Oh, and it loses points for Katie Holmes and the Rachel character, too. The final scene between Bats and Gordon redeems it somewhat, but ultimately BB is not as solid as it could/should have been. I'd still rank it above the original Spider-Man, X-Men, or Hulk though.
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Superman: The Movie is almost ruined by the ridiculous premis that Supes can rewind time by sending the earth spinning backwards...'tarded.
Otherwise its a GREAT movie, but with that forementioned fatal flaw it can't be considered the best comic book movie for me.
Otherwise its a GREAT movie, but with that forementioned fatal flaw it can't be considered the best comic book movie for me.
That is so very classic Superman, though.
And I don't understand how people can stomach a baby surviving interstellar travel inside a comet made of crystal and a guy who can fly in the first place but it's the whole Earth spinning backwards that is unrealistic. Superman has always been about completely impossible, outlandish stuff. The very nature of the character itself has been that way from the beginning.
Read some of the original Supes comics. Watch the Fleischer toons. Read the John Byrne revival. Nothing Donner did in the original movie betrayed the tone and theme of those... not even the Earth-spinning.
And I don't understand how people can stomach a baby surviving interstellar travel inside a comet made of crystal and a guy who can fly in the first place but it's the whole Earth spinning backwards that is unrealistic.
Superman has always been about completely impossible, outlandish stuff. The very nature of the character itself has been that way from the beginning.Read some of the original Supes comics. Watch the Fleischer toons. Read the John Byrne revival. Nothing Donner did in the original movie betrayed the tone and theme of those... not even the Earth-spinning.
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Eh. Just seemed like a cop out to me. Supes can make a mistake at anytime now and just as long as he doesn't die he can always correct it by rewinding time...
It just makes him too strong of a character and imo doesn't fit. What else, psychic ability?
It just makes him too strong of a character and imo doesn't fit. What else, psychic ability?
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This is true. Before the Byrne rebooting Superman was too powerful, god like. It was after this point that they started to depower him and make him more accessible, it still continues today although adding a thousand "survivors" from Krypton whether from this dimension or not is weak IMHO but they are still doing it today. Puzo's Superman was true to the older comics and is a good film but dated and aged. Routh's look is close enough to Reeve's to keep that in line and John Williams' score could be used again....unfortunately Singer will put those two great additions in modern time into the ground.
I think Singer is more than capable of making a great Superman movie. With SR, he was probably to keen to show reverence to what Donner had created. The result was a movie that was too self-aware and plodding.
He's promising a streamlined follow-up that will be about action first, as it should be. I wanna see Supes punch something, dammit, not just lift up increasingly heavier objects.
Oh, and Lois will have to be recast too. Bosworth blows. I like Routh as Clark/Superman, though.
He's promising a streamlined follow-up that will be about action first, as it should be. I wanna see Supes punch something, dammit, not just lift up increasingly heavier objects.
Oh, and Lois will have to be recast too. Bosworth blows. I like Routh as Clark/Superman, though.
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I'm not to jazzed about Perry White's casting either...losing House was a huge loss IMHO. I will give Singer a shot with Man of Steel but my breath isn't held. I'm just hoping that the script is better penned. Even though Millar will probably never get a shot at it, his script ideas at least included Krypton, Superman using his powers a lot and a lot of homages to the real mythos. They really need a Superman fan to pen this script to make it soar, even the best director can't make gold out of a ^^^^ script.
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I think Iron Man is overrated. I don't know what it was but there was something about it that didn't wow me like it seems to have done for others.
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