Hot Toys MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Did he portray a playboy, business like guy to you..I didn't see it

 

[Jokes & Bats]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Did he portray a playboy, business like guy to you..I didn't see it

No - but that was deliberately done by Keaton and Burton.

In my opinion, the scene with Keaton sitting alone, in the dark at the start of Returns, just waiting for the Bat signal, is the real Bruce Wayne - regardless of any playboy partying, business guy stuff.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

No - but that was deliberately done by Keaton and Burton.

In my opinion, the scene with Keaton sitting alone, in the dark at the start of Returns, just waiting for the Bat signal, is the real Bruce Wayne - regardless of any playboy partying, business guy stuff.

With that conclusion, Bale showed that nature to Wayne as well.

I thought that was a look at Burton's mindset with having Keaton sitting there in the dark waiting for the signal

I kept thinking man..is he that odd?

But I guess he is

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

To be honest I'm looking to see how Affleck portrays Wayne..I never thought Wayne was represented well in any of the batman films.

Bale..boring as Bruce
Kilmer..boring
Keaton..good, but too serious
Believe or not I think Clooney captured the true fake persona of Bruce Wayne the best..but by far the worst Batman

After watching several Batman films recently, I'm convinced that Val Kilmer was easily the best Batman, but the film wasn't as good as the other ones. He had the best voice too, and although his Bruce was boring, he looked more like Bruce Wayne than any of the other actors, with the exception of Affleck. I don't think Batffleck's voice is as good as Vilmer.

I like Keaton's Bruce, he seemed odd and out of place around people, but his Batman was just ok. The cool costume helped him a lot, imo.

Bale's Bruce was pretty good overall and he got to play Bruce at different stages of his life, unlike the other actors. His Batman is pretty good too, considering he had more dialogue than any of the other actors and more emotions to convey with his voice while in costume. I think he might have been the first Batman who had to raise his voice and scream.

My Ranking

Best Batman - 1.Kilmer 2.Bale 3. Keaton (coolest looking though)

Best Bruce- 1. Bale 2. Keaton 3.Kilmer

Best costume 1. Keaton (Returns) 2. Bale (both) 3. Kilmer

 

[Jokes & Bats]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

With that conclusion, Bale showed that nature to Wayne as well.

I thought that was a look at Burton's mindset with having Keaton sitting there in the dark waiting for the signal

I kept thinking man..is he that odd?

But I guess he is

I think in the Dark Knight Rises making of (could be wrong) they said that Bale's performance is the best because he represents THREE sides of Wayne:

1, Dark, lonely and upset
2, Batman
3, 'The public persona' where he acts like a playboy billionaire

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I'm convinced that Val Kilmer was easily the best Batman, but the film wasn't as good as the other ones. He had the best voice too.

My Ranking

Best Batman - 1.Kilmer

Best Bruce- 2. Kilmer


"Chicks dig the car."
"Are you trying to get under my cape doctor."
"Try Fireman, less to take off."

 

[CloudN]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

With that conclusion, Bale showed that nature to Wayne as well.

I thought that was a look at Burton's mindset with having Keaton sitting there in the dark waiting for the signal

I kept thinking man..is he that odd?

But I guess he is

lol That scene was a really true Batman moment where you see that all the business man/ playboy life style is just an act. In his own mansion he's just alone, waiting for his true calling. In the original script and in the novel, after Bruce Wayne see's the Batsignal shining, he smiles.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

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I know, the dialogue sucked. I mean his first line in the film is, "I'll get drive-thru", but that's not Kilmer's fault though. His voice sounded natural, unlike all the other actors, he wasn't trying to be Batman. He kind of sounded like Kevin Conroy. If you put Kilmer in both the Burton or the Nolan films, he'd blow those guys out of the water...as Batman, not sure about Bruce.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

lol That scene was a really true Batman moment where you see that all the business man/ playboy life style is just an act. In his own mansion he's just alone, waiting for his true calling. In the original script and in the novel, after Bruce Wayne see's the Batsignal shining, he smiles.

I heard about that..glad they took that out..I can just imagine what parents taking their kids might have thought in the theater watching that moment seeing Keaton sadistic smile in that atmosphere

 

[a-dev]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

No - but that was deliberately done by Keaton and Burton.

In my opinion, the scene with Keaton sitting alone, in the dark at the start of Returns, just waiting for the Bat signal, is the real Bruce Wayne.

You'd think he'd sit there in the Batsuit to save time. At least have his Panda make-up on.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I know, the dialogue sucked. I mean his first line in the film is, "I'll get drive-thru", but that's not Kilmer's fault though. His voice sounded natural, unlike all the other actors, he wasn't trying to be Batman. He kind of sounded like Kevin Conroy. If you put Kilmer in both the Burton or the Nolan films, he'd blow those guys out of the water...as Batman, not sure about Bruce.

Physically I will keep harping that there is without a shadow of a doubt that Kilmer will always be my favorite movie Batman as far as physical appearance ..he nailed it!

Perfection!





HT please..please..I want this Panther Batman, even with the nips!

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I know, the dialogue sucked. I mean his first line in the film is, "I'll get drive-thru", but that's not Kilmer's fault though. His voice sounded natural, unlike all the other actors, he wasn't trying to be Batman. He kind of sounded like Kevin Conroy. If you put Kilmer in both the Burton or the Nolan films, he'd blow those guys out of the water...as Batman, not sure about Bruce.

I dunno, I still think Keaton's Batman has the best attitude.


Haven't seen Batman Forever in a while but I remember this was my favorite scene with Kilmer as Batman. @1:55

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

You'd think he'd sit there in the Batsuit to save time. At least have his Panda make-up on.

That would be kind of spooky.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I dunno, I still think Keaton's Batman has the best attitude.


Haven't seen Batman Forever in a while but I remember this was my favorite scene with Kilmer as Batman. @1:55

1:16 will always be my favorite LOL moment of the film I still can't believe Schumacher did that

Brilliant find!

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

One of my goals when I get mine is to capture a pic with this look



Minus the bat mobile, I think I can get the lighting

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I dunno, I still think Keaton's Batman has the best attitude.


Haven't seen Batman Forever in a while but I remember this was my favorite scene with Kilmer as Batman. @1:55

Keaton had a good attitude and it fits with the films and with the actions of the character in the story, imo. I thought his Bruce Wayne was more likable, but maybe that's because I find Keaton likable. I have no idea how much the performances of the actors in those films had to do with the director and the script, but I don't think Kilmer had the best source material and director to work with. I mean, even Tommy Lee Jones was not at his best in Forever. I still like Forever for what it was, but 89 and TDKT are my favorites.

 

[dominishin]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Whatever dudes Bale Begins voice is the best.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Whatever dudes Bale Begins voice is the best.

This was his best scene, imo. He looked cool, and his voice sounded very natural and relax.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Keaton had a good attitude and it fits with the films and with the actions of the character in the story, imo. I thought his Bruce Wayne was more likable, but maybe that's because I find Keaton likable. I have no idea how much the performances of the actors in those films had to do with the director and the script, but I don't think Kilmer had the best source material and director to work with. I mean, even Tommy Lee Jones was not at his best in Forever. I still like Forever for what it was, but 89 and TDKT are my favorites.

Schumacher's problem was that he wanted to create a " living Comic Book " idealism to the film, so I think it lacked the reality factor and seemed too cartoonish for the actors to grasp their characters. Only Carrey felt comfortable because being a comedian helped him.

Even Nicole Kidman said herself thought that Chase was an odd role and character but she liked the idea of being the first normal girl to kiss Batman and Bruce in a film.

 

[guyver1]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Whatever dudes Bale Begins voice is the best.

You serious?