Hot Toys MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Pre-Ordered the 2-pack set last week and this along with the BD Robo/Murphy set is what's keeping me attracted to HT products at the minute. Everything else outwith their Old Ben Kenobi has been pretty bland thus far.
 
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I really liked the first Star Lord sculpt. The revised one is cool but the first one was still good.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I really want to order the 2 pack. The only thing holding me back is that head sculpt. I have the 89 Batman and always hoped to get a Keaton sculpt.

If it gets re done like the Star Lord head sculpt I will PO instantly. I want the sculpt that JC Hong posted online!!!!!:pray:
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Yup, I'm in the same position. I think a lot of people are. I am definitely buying the single set. Batman as is looks fantastic.

I'd love to buy the two-pack (the torn cowl/mask, and Keaton Bruce Wayne is something I've always wanted), but I'm wary of that Bruce headsculpt. I know they're capable of better. The "likeness" currently advertised is awful. If Hot Toys fixes/revises it or we get the one that looks like the portrait JC Hong posted, I'll keep my single order AND buy the two-pack. I can't say that I have high hopes that they'll change it, but it would be nice. I guess we'll see in 5-6 months. I'd have no qualms about giving them $550 for three solid figures (Batman, Bruce unmasked and Bruce in a tux) as long as we get a better Keaton likeness. Here's hoping.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

The fact there is already a better looking head that's been posted tells me that we may indeed get that better looking sculpt. So I think you may well be in for the big spend.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

What are your plans for this one? The single? Pass?

Never caught up with the thread to see everyone's thoughts.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Initially I thought I'd get the single no matter how the Bruce head ended up looking. I felt I didn't really need Bruce Wayne on display.

But then it occurred to me that I have the complete set of Hot Toys Burton Batman products so far, why stop short when this will quite possibly be the last item they make anyway. So if we get a better Keaton sculpt I'll definitely go for the double set. If we get the prototype-sculpt though I think I'll just get the single release - it really is that bad, usual nice detail and all but one of the worst likenesses they've made as it stands - owning it would be as good as not having a Keaton Bruce Wayne at all.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I don't collect outside of Star Wars but I may have to pick up the single batman. Looks awesome.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Initially I thought I'd get the single no matter how the Bruce head ended up looking. I felt I didn't really need Bruce Wayne on display.

But then it occurred to me that I have the complete set of Hot Toys Burton Batman products so far, why stop short when this will quite possibly be the last item they make anyway. So if we get a better Keaton sculpt I'll definitely go for the double set. If we get the prototype-sculpt though I think I'll just get the single release - it really is that bad, usual nice detail and all but one of the worst likenesses they've made as it stands - owning it would be as good as not having a Keaton Bruce Wayne at all.


Yup, the two-pack is dependent entirely on the Wayne sculpt. If we get a revised portrait and they nail Keaton, it's gold, if we get that horrible proto/product one, it's a bust.

The single has no real problems, looks great and is one hell of a steal. I still can't believe it's less than what the DX 09 went for. The only thing I hate are the mouth plates. What a bunch of lazy, uncreative choices. As Batman, Keaton emotes the most in Returns. You wouldn't realize it with the alternate faces Hot Toys went with. These two are fine and look just like Keaton in the mask,


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But what's the third one? They don't advertise what it looks like in any of the action poses. I assume it's just a slight variation of #2? What a missed opportunity to not get atleast one of these out there,


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DX 09 had great faces (loved the slight smirking, Axis Chemicals one), even the crappy ketchup face had a great sculpt, BUT they never included a rage/angry faceplate. It felt like a glaring omission. Returns Batman would have been the perfect opportunity to remedy that. Instead we get two toothy faces again.



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What would be really cool is if this is all just a work in progress and they surprise us with new faces like they did with the QS 001 1/4 Batman. The product pics for that were horrible. The cowl sucked, the faces were all goofy and they advertised only three. Then out of no where, it hit SDCC that year, then shipped with a completely new head/cowl, all new revised faces and 4 choices instead of three.


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Beggars can't be choosers though. Besides, look at the variety of expressions Hot Toys tried to give us with the DX 12/Armory faces. They gave us a bunch of options and yet only one or two look good and actually fit the face convincingly.
 
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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

My word do I hate that TDK/TDKR suit. He just looks goofy as ****, I'm sorry.

But yeah the mouthplates options are disappointing given what they could have given us - and the way they advertised them is bizarre - side-by-side, drawing attention to how incredibly minimal the difference between them is. You'd think they'd want to disguise that fact somehow.
 
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My word do I hate that TDK/TDKR suit. He just looks goofy as ****, I'm sorry.

True his head does look kinda like a peanut in that suit. I mean the suit is cool the head just ruins it though..
 
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and the way they advertised them is bizarre - side-by-side, drawing attention to how incredibly minimal the difference between them is. You'd think they'd want to disguise that fact somehow.


Funny enough, back in January I did the same thing with that what-I'd-like-to-see photoshop I did. :lol


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I was just using the DX 09 faces as place holders and I recall someone asking why they were identical/similar. Who woulda thought Hot Toys would do the same!?



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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I really wish the Keaton sculpt came with the bloody cat-claw scratches on it. It'd fit the "unmasking" scene perfectly and would give it a bit more "pop."

I know that it would make it incompatible with the Tuxedo - but it would've been nice to have two Keaton heads at that point. (Or maybe one head with one set, and the other head with the other set - there was a time when a Hot Toys Batman figure came with two heads STANDARD).

Maybe I'll hire a painter to add the claw marks for me...
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I really wish the Keaton sculpt came with the bloody cat-claw scratches
I know that it would make it incompatible with the Tuxedo - but it would've been nice to have two Keaton heads at that point. (Or maybe one head with one set, and the other head with the other set - there was a time when a Hot Toys Batman figure came with two heads STANDARD).


That's actually a really good idea when I think about it. The single Batman offering could have come with the Bruce Wayne head (w/ bloody wounds) and the torn cowl/mask. Then the two-pack set could have been that PLUS you get a clean Bruce Wayne head with his tux. That would have covered everything.

Dunno what the bonus would have been in that case though, if they felt they needed a "bonus".



Also, looking at the specs/product pics, every shot is heavily photoshopped. I wondered why we didn't get any HD photos from Hong Kong like we used to, and now I see why. You can see the pixels and such around the faces and eyes. Like that shot above of the two faceplates, that's literally just a tweaked photo. You can see the blurs and everything. Even the portrait shots of the Bruce Wayne in the tux look modified, especially around his eye balls and hair line. Looking at it closer, even the main, neutral faceplate on Batman in a lot of the photos looks manipulated. Sort of like they slapped on some rosie cheeks and made it jut out more. Weird.
 
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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

:lol

Newly developed "Dat azz" face sculpts

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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

This one would have been an excellent choice...

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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

That's kind of vicious of Batman to lob acid at Selina, isn't it? I mean, I know she was hanging Batman with her whip (and I assume she intended to drop him to the pavement on the streets below) and later punctures him in his gut with the claws, but that seems kind of sadistic on his part. What if that napalm packet hit her face!?! I always cringe when I see that bubbled up scar on her arm when they're making out. That wound was nasty.

Seeing those accessories sort of makes these licenses bittersweet.

Never see a Penguin.

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Never see a Catwoman.

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Never see a Kyle Reese.


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