1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 320 - Star Wars Ep.VII - Kylo Ren

[SNIKT1950]

If you actually read my last post and still think there is a chance Snoke is Plagueis...yikes.

I read your post and nothing in it downright eliminates the possibility of Snoke being Plagueis. If you read my post a few pages back you'll see there's plenty of evidence suggesting he very well could be.

Suggestion, don't tell people you know something when you don't. Its annoying.

I'm open to Snoke not being Plagueis. You won't hear me say he ABSOLUTELY is Plagueis either.

 

[wadeit0ut]

I read your post and nothing in it downright eliminates the possibility of Snoke being Plagueis. If you read my post a few pages back you'll see there's plenty of evidence suggesting he very well could be.

Suggestion, don't tell people you know something when you don't. Its annoying.

I'm open to Snoke not being Plagueis. You won't hear me say he ABSOLUTELY isn't Plagueis.

There is absolutely no evidence what so ever that Snoke is Plagueis. And you will hear me say he absolutely is not Plagueis.

JJ said he isn't Plagueis, Serkis said he is a brand new character, concept art had him as both male and female at one point and says he is a new character. He is a completely new species of alien. Pablo Hidalgo arguably the most knowledgable person about Star Wars in the world who was hired by Lucasfilm years back and is now a member of the Story Group said he is not Plagueis and even makes fun of people who do.

Suggestion, don't tell people you know something when you don't. Its annoying.

Don't perpetuate silly rumors and I won't have to annoy you then. Or at least take it to a relevant thread.

 

[IrishJedi]

You are correct, sir.

Unless something gets retconned from here (and I doubt it as the LFL Story Group has a solid handle on where this is all ultimately going now) he is absolutely NOT Plagueis.

 

[momaw]

I read your post and nothing in it downright eliminates the possibility of Snoke being Plagueis. If you read my post a few pages back you'll see there's plenty of evidence suggesting he very well could be.

Suggestion, don't tell people you know something when you don't. Its annoying.

I'm open to Snoke not being Plagueis. You won't hear me say he ABSOLUTELY is Plagueis either.

Thin evidence with the most compelling piece being based off an incorrect quote.

With Rebels now being canon and the comment from Dave Filoni that there was a rebels link to TFA, it is more believable that Snoke was an inquisitor. Not that I am saying that, it's just far more credible than him being a long dead Sith.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Why don't people like new characters? Why must everything be connected back to everything else?

 

[wadeit0ut]

Why don't people like new characters? Why must everything be connected back to everything else?

I am guessing it's because they are scared they won't like the new character so they want it to be a character they think they already know they like.

Or something.

Also I think Pablo already cracked the case of who Snoke really is;

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/681269823909707776

Quaker Oats
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[Wor-Gar]

Snoke is simply the "Snake" in the garden.

 

[momaw]

I am guessing it's because they are scared they won't like the new character so they want it to be a character they think they already know they like.

Or something.

Also I think Pablo already cracked the case of who Snoke really is;

Battle for Endor finally gets the respect it's due.

 

[SNIKT1950]

There is absolutely no evidence what so ever that Snoke is Plagueis.

Wrong and annoying.

And you will hear me say he absolutely is not Plagueis.

Again, wrong and annoying.

JJ said he isn't Plagueis

He also said Cumberbatch wasn't playing Khan in STID nor ever admitted to Khan being the villain prior to release.

Serkis said he is a brand new character, concept art had him as both male and female at one point and says he is a new character. He is a completely new species of alien. Pablo Hidalgo arguably the most knowledgable person about Star Wars in the world who was hired by Lucasfilm years back and is now a member of the Story Group said he is not Plagueis and even makes fun of people who do.

Hidalgo has ZERO to do with this new trilogy.

Neal Scanlan on the other hand was the director of creature effects on TFA. He revealed Snoke is based on Ralph McQuarrie's original concept art for Palpatine and that he's 7 ft tall. He was always male.

Don't perpetuate silly rumors and I won't have to annoy you then. Or at least take it to a relevant thread.

This is just a shining example of poor forum etiquette. You are blatantly shutting down people's theories and ideas as if you were an authority on the matter when in fact you have NO actual evidence to disprove any of these said theories or ideas.

So learn some manners and consider truths that don't mesh with your own sometimes. It makes forum discussions more tolerable, bruh.

 

[Lejuan]

irate Star Wars nerds

 

[wadeit0ut]

Wrong and annoying.



Again, wrong and annoying.



He also said Cumberbatch wasn't playing Khan in STID nor ever admitted to Khan being the villain prior to release.




Hidalgo has ZERO to do with this new trilogy.

Neal Scanlan on the other hand was the director of creature effects on TFA. He revealed Snoke is based on the original concept art for Palpatine and that he's 7 ft tall. He was always male.



This is just a shining example of poor forum etiquette. You are blatantly shutting down people's theories and ideas as if you were an authority on the matter when in fact you have NO actual evidence to disprove any of these said theories or ideas.

So learn some manners and consider truths that don't mesh with your own sometimes. It makes forum discussions more tolerable, bruh.

Holy cow. The amount of wrong in this is staggering.

1) JJ also specifically said he regrets lying about Khan and said it was a mistake. And you completely ignored the other sources I mentioned.

2) Show me this evidence. And fan speculation is not evidence.

3) Hildalgo is on the STORY GROUP committee who's entire job is to know everything about Star Wars to ensure nothing in Canon has contradictions. He literally wrote the Visual Dictionary for TFA. And assuming you aren't lying about the Neal Scanlan part, that could just mean in physical concept stage he was always male. The art book is early concept drawings. They wouldn't have even attempted these concepts of him as a female and a snake dude if he was Plagueis.

4) This isn't a "bad rumor and speculation" thread. This is a thread for the Kylo Ren Hot Toys 1/6 figure. You can spread awful rumors but do it in the actual movie discussion thread.

 

[bransen2099]

irate Star Wars nerds

Why I'm hesitant telling girls that I'm a Star Wars nerd on the first date

 

[SNIKT1950]

Holy cow. The amount of wrong in this is staggering.

1) JJ also specifically said he regrets lying about Khan and said it was a mistake. And you completely ignored the other sources I mentioned.

2) Hildalgo is on the STORY GROUP committee who's entire job is to know everything about Star Wars to ensure nothing in Canon has contradictions. He literally wrote the Visual Dictionary for TFA. And assuming you aren't lying about the Neal Scanlan part, that could just mean in physical concept stage he was always male. The art book is early concept drawings. They wouldn't have even attempted these concepts of him as a female and a snake dude if he was Plagueis.

3) This isn't a "bad rumor and speculation" thread. This is a thread for the Kylo Ren Hot Toys 1/6 figure. You can spread awful rumors but do it in the actual movie discussion thread.

Lol You have nothing to disprove the Plagueis/Snoke theory. Nothing. You literally know nothing, my man.

I actually screencapped this whole convo so if in 18 months Snoke indeed turns out to be Darth Plagueis I can remind you of just how wrong you were (and of the annoying lengths you went to trying to dismiss the theory).

 

[Lejuan]

Why I'm hesitant telling girls that I'm a Star Wars nerd on the first date

Too right - you don't want to fight about canon until the second date

 

[Lejuan]

Lol You have nothing to disprove the Plagueis/Snoke theory. Nothing. You literally know nothing, my man.

I actually screencapped this whole convo so if in 18 months Snoke indeed turns out to be Darth Plagueis I can remind you of just how wrong you were (and of the annoying lengths you went to trying to dismiss the theory).

Good-oh, discussion adjourned for 18 months then

 

[wadeit0ut]

Lol You have nothing to disprove the Plagueis/Snoke theory. Nothing. You literally know nothing, my man.

You're right. I have nothing. JJ/Andy Serkis/Manzella/Pablo are all lying to us. JJ didn't even work on the script for Episode 8 but he is playing that long con. And the irony of this after I just flat out proved you are wrong about him never being conceptualized as a female is hilarious. Again;

And people wonder how cults like Scientology keeps finding new members.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Good-oh, discussion adjourned for 18 months then

Sadly, the poor kid will just keep stating his own beliefs as facts here. Some people just don't understand the concept of "Discussion".

 

[KerotanFrog]

Ok we adjourn til May 2017! Somebody will be right and somebody will be eating crow.

Let's take teams. Me and SNIKT are Team Plagueis. Anyone else care to join us? I don't believe in coincidences with things like this and it would be cool. Come at me.

 

[Prime Clone]

No issue with the PT? How do you figure that? Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but I thought TFA effectively whitewashed the PT from SW history and even had a jibe at the OT revisionism.

Doesn't really matter what the individual screenwriters and directors think, they're just employees. Lucasfilm (via Kennedy) says the prequels are "immovable objects" so they have to work within that space.

 

[bransen2099]

Too right - you don't want to fight about canon until the second date

I almost lost my drink