Hot Toys - MMS DX 01- The Dark Knight - The Joker spec and pics

[Centrocal]

What pisses me off is they drop this on us at the worst possible time. I mean , I can't pay for Pred 1, Dutch , John Connor, Mark 2 , T-600 AND Cop Joker. All within a few months of each other.

The fact is one or two of these figures I will never own simply because of the timing. They force you to make a choice And The day after a Hot toys figure releases, its price starts going up. By the time I'm ready buy, its already way out of the question.

This Joker should be released in December

 

[The Mike]

While for some of us who collect multiple lines its a pain in the ass, in reality Batman fans shouldn't have to wait until the end of the year to get a figure from the only line they are collecting. Its not HT's fault that we buy so much of their stuff.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I don't get the big deal. Buy what you want, pass on what you don't -- and move on. Maybe something better will come along in 6 months, but such is the risk of making quick purchases. There is no guarantee that yours will be the definitive version for any set amount of time.

Honestly, I see no downside to Hot Toys here. They've cornered the market. Complainers simply have nowhere else to go. So, HT releases a new V1 outfit, and pairs it with a figure (Police Officer) that they don't expect to sell as well. Win-win.

The die hard fans -- who are willing to buy one $150 Joker for the outfit, and another $150 Joker for the headsculpt -- will likely buy a third version. They may complain -- but Hot Toys knows they'll always be back. And, even if they don't buy this one ... they'll be back for a Jim Gordon, Alfred, or whatever random figure they produce next. As long as the quality remains high, these people cannot be alienated.

These are the benefits of having cornered the market on high-quality high-end 1/6 figures. Ultimately, the decision is yours. If you don't want the new figure, don't buy it -- but, from what I've seen on this thread, HT strategy worked fine.

SnakeDoc

 

[farrrs]

i think he looks a bit like harry enfield without his make up on!?

 

[TwoFace]

Im just buying the suspenders seperate on ebay.

Schrew buying this allover again.

 

[Shai]

Amazing figure.

 

[Centrocal]

Yeah im also counting all of sideshows stuff


At the start of each year you really have to just pick your poison and commit to it

Im probably never gonna buy another videogame again

 

[galactiboy]

Man, I think I'm gonna be suckered into getting this

At this point I figure I can sell my V1 (which will take a loss) but still for not much more get enough to have the Cop Joker (which is fun) and the even more kickass version of the V1. And I can still keep the BR Joker which is a great figure in and of itself.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

I don't understand the whining. We moaned so much about the original so HT are making amends for this.

They did not have enough ref material for V1 and, although people say they rushed it, we would be moaning if we had had to wait ages for figs after the films release. Case in point; the Medi TDK figs.

The DX is a great announcement to me. I imagine this 'bettering' of a new figure to this degree is a one off and I can't wait for the release.

 

[clockwork463]

Hots toys needs to start making 1/4 style statues they could be better than sideshow if they wanted to be....

 

[KBA]

What pisses me off is they drop this on us at the worst possible time. I mean , I can't pay for Pred 1, Dutch , John Connor, Mark 2 , T-600 AND Cop Joker. All within a few months of each other

That's something I hadn't thought about. Pred 1 may have to be canceled for this.

 

[DiFabio]

Responsibility doesn't fall on the company? whos making the figs?... hmm?... you can't tell me Hot Toys relies purely on making Joker figures. Thats just the icing on the cake.

Was I trying to convince people not to buy it? Am I screaming in this thread saying, example... "people STOP!!!11 DON'T BUY HOT TOYS PRODUCTS they are evil and out to get you, don't give them your money, thieving b*****ds!"

I couldn't care what people buy. I buy for me and me alone.

We bought the previous figures because thats all we thought there was going to be. Hence why they advertised the Ultimate Joker or words to that effect with the BRJ head on the v1 fig widescreen screenshots kneeling down etc etc. Heck, they even gave us A4 pamphlets listing the line making you think this is it. In both boxes for BRJ and Two Face.

Besides, thats not the point. Two main points.

1. This is for those who missed out on both v1 and BRJ figs. Mainly. As I'm sure most are well aware by now. As well as the ultimate diehard Joker/Ledger nuts out there who will no doubt get this anyway. The nuts part wasn't meant to offend.

It still feels like a slap in the face for buying v1 to some degree. Because of the short amount of time.

2. They need to slow down on releases! This is my only gripe.

I wouldn't feel as bad if this was announced say August/September/November. At least give a year between a new advanced fig from previously made.

I'll bet there are still some out there that have v1 and have BRJ on pre-order or if not, the BRJ is already winging it's way to their house.

Exactly. You can't tell me that they didn't know what they were doing while they were making BR Joker. They're schemers anyone who denies it is an idiot.

 

[Voorhees27]

That's something I hadn't thought about. Pred 1 may have to be canceled for this.

I already did this, one theme at a time for me

 

[vodoun]

I don't understand the whining.

I thought it was a discussion?

 

[Voorhees27]

Exactly. You can't tell me that they didn't know what they were doing while they were making BR Joker. They're schemers anyone who denies it is an idiot.

Well then maybe you should lead the boycott, we'll all follow right behind you.

 

[plasmid303]

Responsibility doesn't fall on the company? whos making the figs?... hmm?... you can't tell me Hot Toys relies purely on making Joker figures. Thats just the icing on the cake.

Was I trying to convince people not to buy it? Am I screaming in this thread saying, example... "people STOP!!!11 DON'T BUY HOT TOYS PRODUCTS they are evil and out to get you, don't give them your money, thieving b*****ds!"

I couldn't care what people buy. I buy for me and me alone.

We bought the previous figures because thats all we thought there was going to be. Hence why they advertised the Ultimate Joker or words to that effect with the BRJ head on the v1 fig widescreen screenshots kneeling down etc etc. Heck, they even gave us A4 pamphlets listing the line making you think this is it. In both boxes for BRJ and Two Face.

Besides, thats not the point. Two main points.

1. This is for those who missed out on both v1 and BRJ figs. Mainly. As I'm sure most are well aware by now. As well as the ultimate diehard Joker/Ledger nuts out there who will no doubt get this anyway. The nuts part wasn't meant to offend.

It still feels like a slap in the face for buying v1 to some degree. Because of the short amount of time.

2. They need to slow down on releases! This is my only gripe.

I wouldn't feel as bad if this was announced say August/September/November. At least give a year between a new advanced fig from previously made.

I'll bet there are still some out there that have v1 and have BRJ on pre-order or if not, the BRJ is already winging it's way to their house.

I said it doesn't JUST fall on the company. The responsibility is shared with the buyer as well.

Hot Toys is growing as a company so their output of figures will increase in breadth and rapidity. I'm not going to bluntly say that it was your fault for snatching up the previous Joker figures with abandon, but as with most consumer products, the buyer should exercise their responsibility and caution.

What I don't get is why people are getting angry NOW. Who was there complaining when they dipped again and again for Robocop, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Superman?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

I thought it was a discussion?

It is, and I am expressing my opinion that I cannot understand why people are moaning about HT ^^^^^ing on their customers.

 

[The Drizzle]

Read this: https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47291&page=11

#102

Thanks for that info!

 

[DiFabio]

Well then maybe you should lead the boycott, we'll all follow right behind you.

Um, no I'm buying this new one, have it preordered in fact. But he does make a good point some people are just too obsessed and blinded to see it. I won't blame HT entirely us greedy collectors are just as guilty. If anyone here thinks that some company is in it entirely for us they are clearly mistaken. Money is first, the consumer is last. Terminator, do you think if they just lost you and me that they'd actually give a damn? Of course not.

 

[The Mike]

Ugh. Its obvious that some people are just gonna feel ripped off no matter what because this is forcing them to buy another? How much sense does that actually make? People ^^^^^ed about the HS on the original so they included a new one for BRJ that could be but doesn't have to be used on the V1 many people have it displayed on the BRJ like it shows in the solicits. After we got a newer better HS, people still complained the paint was too messy to be a general Joker and then focused on the Clothes. Now they are trying to make amends for that and people are still screaming and yelling. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Should they keep a figure on hold until the best possible figure can be made, possibly but then it'll be out far past the film's release because it wouldn't be officially started on until the film is out so they can see what made it into the final cut. I'm one that cannot wait and want my figures now, so I bought a v1, I see BRJ and see the upgrade. I see this and say I can have either a whole other Joker or just the Cop and sell the pieces because with all the complaining someone could earn back all of their money by parting it out right.

I still fail to see the criminalization of Hot Toys as many of you see it.