Hot Toys - MMS136 - The Terminator: 1/6th scale T800 Collectible Figure (T1)

[Agentofchaos]

Now that's how I want this displayed

 

[Wolf873]

Would you recommend getting this figure or waiting for another version? I'm actually wanting to get just one figure from The Terminator, so is there a possibility that Hot Toys would release a figure with battle damaged head?

 

[EndoSickness]

You may already have the T2....but this is T1!! Thats a big deal, or should be if you're a Terminator fan. This is the first ever fully licensed poseable figure from The Terminator ever made to my knowledge. And its a beauty.

Thoroughly enjoying this figure. Out of 2 purchases, plus the clothes from MMS02 and an extra T-800 body I've made or am finalising 4 complete figures with a 5th one on the cards eventually.

1) Tech Noir using either the Uzi or .45 longslide. I've moved him onto a T2 body which has more range of movement in its torso articulation...at least in the examples I have to compare. Theres no noticeable difference in the appearance when the clothes are on.

2) Arm surgery - he has MMS02's slightly too small pants - I needed his actual pants on another figure - the MMS02's pants can't fasten around the thick waist of the new T-800 body and as a result the crotch is open. This is hidden however by the T1s punk vest and jacket. Also this is the figure I will ultimately be displaying sitting down - when in a sitting position the MMS02 pants sorta get pulled down and he displays builders crack - but again the punk jacket will hide this. Thus he gets away with having pants that are too small while the next figure gets the proper ones. The MMS02 pants look otherwise completely fine.

3) Eye surgery - I've got this on a T2 body. At the moment its using the extra BD head which I hope to replace with the exposed endo-eye head eventually. Its wearing the MMS02 grey vest, T1s pants taken from the above figure, and MMS02's boots. I'm going to add bandages to his right arm and hand and I'll try to pose him with the scalpel somehow, as he starts cutting out his damaged human eye. I might also see if I can give him a bloodstained white towel.

4) Naked Arnie!!! The new T1 T-800 body is quite aesthetically pleasing if, like me, you accept that this is an action figure and can forgive the joints. Hot Toys have gone to greater lengths to make the joints less obvious on this body - this was discussed here before and we were surprised that they'd made changes to the body after the T2. They did, and its for the better. I wanted to have one nude for either the T1 or T2 arrival scenes or the T4 CGI arnie so I took this body from my Tech Noir figure and gave Tech Noir the slightly less visually appealing T2 body instead.

5) This one is very incomplete but it'll be based on the poster image and various other promotional pics of Arnie. Its on a Billy Sole body whose chest matches the appearance of Arnie's chest in the poster quite well. Its got the MMS02's leather jacket (which wouldn't come close to fitting on the new T-800 bodies). The legs, waist and ass are going to need beefing up which I may just do with bubblewrap. I'm not satisfied with the pants I'm using though (SS Sarah Connors!!!), and I'm all out of proper T1 pants. I'm not too fussed about accurate pants for this figure at the moment but better tailored ones would be nice at least. I have no head for this one yet and I also may run into problems putting it on this body when the time comes. Ideally the head would, again, be the exposed endo-eye head with new Gargoyle sunglasses. MMS02s ones are a no-go, much too big. Lastly the hands will be spares from our new T1 figure - although theres no wrist peg thats ideal - too big or too small.

Lastly, if anyones been reading all these words and you've counted my use of two T2 bodies in the above - well I took one from the extra MMS117 I bought (definitely my last one!!) alongside my T1s and one from my Cyberdyne T-800. I regret that I had to do that but I've salvaged the situation for Cyberdyne T-800 believe it or not by using my spare Dutch (from Predator) body. This is my infamous "2 left armed" Dutch that I never returned. I had performed surgery on it to convert the extra left arm into a right arm but unfortunately it was left with visible scars and I just would never have been satisfied using it as my nude T-800 as I had always planned. So now its all hidden under the cyberdyne gear.
The upper body proportions on the dressed figure are great, the jacket fits very well actually, better than it even does on the proper T-800 body. Its not without problems though. Posing is now more limited, not just because theres no articulation in the Dutch torso but also because the jacket prevents the arms from holding a gun-firing pose and makes the collar lift upwards whenever I try to raise an arm. However I don't have any plans for dramatic poses on my Cyberdyne T2, I've been happy with a simple intimidating striding pose so far.
Another problem is the legs and waist needed padding out - the Dutch body is only muscled on top and is also very top-heavy and the hip joints aren't strong enough with the result that the figure wants to lean forward.
The final problem is the head/neck connection isn't ideal with reduced poseability and a visible gap - I'm going to have to do something about that by trying to increase the thickness of the rubber neck at the top where it goes into the head.
Right now it'll do but the OCD in me may ultimately not be satisfied with the way my Cyberdyne T-800 is now - it looks almost no different at all but I'll know its not completely right

OK sorry for all this talk with no pics - I'll try to rectify that as soon as I can!

God damn, A-Dev.
That´s onehell of a plan.
Hope you make lots of pics once you have this finished.

I´ m definatly going to get me a second T1 body to repair my T2 Arnold and also making him accurate and look more equal in looks to how all Series 800 Model 101 Terminators should look.
Cause afterall it couldn´t be done in the movie that all look equal, thx to aging, but of course (like every Terminator-fan should know) everyone from this assembly line should look perfectly the same, except hairstyles.
I think that´s kinda fan fiction too, but it would make perfect sense that skynet created different hairstyles on the Terminators for different time periods, or not?

BTW: Dunno how much of you guys are giving something about what I´m talking about here, but last week I started to write a script for T5. It´s a direct sequel to T: S, set in 2029 and continues the Story way more classic Terminator-like, without forgetting the last one (I hate stuff like this, guys should just finish stuff). It starts out with the visuals showing T1 Arnold being sent back and ending the visuals on him with the dumpster driving to the parking lot with one single lightning teasing his arrival, with a little notch to the T2 Teaser Trailer "Building the perfect Arnold" and the audio during this features a speech of John Connor. Then the credits roll and the movie sets in a few days before the time travel and I guess I´ll center it around the quest of John, Kyle, Blair, Barnes and Perry (mentioned in T1, leader of Kyle´s unit und Connor) to finally stop Skynet, after having found out about Skynet´s plan to stop Connor (oldschool T1 way). I also think I´ll write about the rising of the new T-800, after the first factory in Salvation was destroyed and Skynet had to build everything new and because of that the T-800 has the normal physical power level back, contrary to this overdone superpowers from Salvation.
Everything of course set in moody-blue T1/2 future war style with all known sounds, fx and then finished HK-designs.

 

[persuazion]

how hard is it to get the arm off?

 

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

God damn, A-Dev.
That´s onehell of a plan.
Hope you make lots of pics once you have this finished.

I´ m definatly going to get me a second T1 body to repair my T2 Arnold and also making him accurate and look more equal in looks to how all Series 800 Model 101 Terminators should look.
Cause afterall it couldn´t be done in the movie that all look equal, thx to aging, but of course (like every Terminator-fan should know) everyone from this assembly line should look perfectly the same, except hairstyles.
I think that´s kinda fan fiction too, but it would make perfect sense that skynet created different hairstyles on the Terminators for different time periods, or not?

BTW: Dunno how much of you guys are giving something about what I´m talking about here, but last week I started to write a script for T5. It´s a direct sequel to T: S, set in 2029 and continues the Story way more classic Terminator-like, without forgetting the last one (I hate stuff like this, guys should just finish stuff). It starts out with the visuals showing T1 Arnold being sent back and ending the visuals on him with the dumpster driving to the parking lot with one single lightning teasing his arrival, with a little notch to the T2 Teaser Trailer "Building the perfect Arnold" and the audio during this features a speech of John Connor. Then the credits roll and the movie sets in a few days before the time travel and I guess I´ll center it around the quest of John, Kyle, Blair, Barnes and Perry (mentioned in T1, leader of Kyle´s unit und Connor) to finally stop Skynet, after having found out about Skynet´s plan to stop Connor (oldschool T1 way). I also think I´ll write about the rising of the new T-800, after the first factory in Salvation was destroyed and Skynet had to build everything new and because of that the T-800 has the normal physical power level back, contrary to this overdone superpowers from Salvation.
Everything of course set in moody-blue T1/2 future war style with all known sounds, fx and then finished HK-designs.

Please, could you send me a draft of your story or at least keep me updated, my friend.
I love reading fan fiction of the Terminator. Especially stories set in the future war.

how hard is it to get the arm off?

Mine was quite easy.
I didnt even need to use the hot water trick.

 

[EndoSickness]

Please, could you send me a draft of your story or at least keep me updated, my friend.
I love reading fan fiction of the Terminator. Especially stories set in the future war.

Of course, man.
I´ll actually think about sending it to Pacificor, holder of the rights now, you know?
Cause I really think this universe needs to be closed, but closed with a bang, before more stuff like 3 happens.
I liked Salvation for what it was, the "tries" and "wants" on it, reimagining stuff, but it needs to be more classic, little more brutal again and stop with this campy stuff.
That´s one of the things salvation did good.
What do you think about this idea for my story, TFG:
Skynet salvaging dead bodies of friends and family of resistance fighters and fooling them into thinking one of theirs returned from a long absence and then they get shot by them and it turns out it´s a T-800 where the skin of the lost friend was attached too.
Kind of a predecessor to T-1000 mimicking everything it touches for better infiltration?!

how hard is it to get the arm off?

First time´s tough.
I thought I rip his arm off, A-Dev uses warm water, I was contemplating a blow dryer just as I was able to pull it off.

 

[King Darkness]

Perfect picture!

 

[vodoun]

Lovely head sculpt. In that photo you wouldn't think it was a figure. Looks more like a very expensive statue from being so incredibly real.

 

[EndoSickness]

Agreed would be an understatement.
Just love the sculpt on this.
Can´t wait to get home and looking at it...

 

[tys1977]

Mine's now 'Out for delivery'
Heading for work now on a late shift so I'm probably gonna get my Dad to house sit this afternoon for me LOL
Should be here for when I get home

Kindest regards
Tys

 

[shocktrooper_au]

Received mine today, great figure! demands a shelf of it's own, but it's stuck with the salvation figures at the moment I've got the damaged eye sculpt on very menacing

 

[joebizz34]

Please, could you send me a draft of your story or at least keep me updated, my friend.
I love reading fan fiction of the Terminator. Especially stories set in the future war.



Mine was quite easy.
I didnt even need to use the hot water trick.

I always thought it would be a cool idea to have John decide that this time he would go back and really change the timeline because he realizes that no matter how many different ways the future happens the end result is always the same. So at the moment of truth of sending Kyle back he sends himself back and tries to completely unravel things and risking his own existence figuring that maybe the key to the problem is him being the leader. Then they could honor the first film by doing a Back To The Future thing where you see clips from the first movie but with John watching in the background and how things play out differently now. I know it's not practical as far as actually pulling it off, but it was an idea swimming around in my head.

My figure should arrive tomorrow. I can't wait!!!

 

[EndoSickness]

I always thought it would be a cool idea to have John decide that this time he would go back and really change the timeline because he realizes that no matter how many different ways the future happens the end result is always the same. So at the moment of truth of sending Kyle back he sends himself back and tries to completely unravel things and risking his own existence figuring that maybe the key to the problem is him being the leader. Then they could honor the first film by doing a Back To The Future thing where you see clips from the first movie but with John watching in the background and how things play out differently now. I know it's not practical as far as actually pulling it off, but it was an idea swimming around in my head.

My figure should arrive tomorrow. I can't wait!!!

Great idea actually.
But my 2 cents on a "logical" matter (I know, Terminator...but anyhow): It´s not that it´s John´s fault that humans fear what they don´t know and therefor threatening Skynet´s existence.
Skynet in itself is just born, and had developed a personality and humans feared that tried to pull the plug...there was no John Connor that is responsible for their fault, only for the people that serve under him and wanna get their planet back.

 

[joebizz34]

Great idea actually.
But my 2 cents on a "logical" matter (I know, Terminator...but anyhow): It´s not that it´s John´s fault that humans fear what they don´t know and therefor threatening Skynet´s existence.
Skynet in itself is just born, and had developed a personality and humans feared that tried to pull the plug...there was no John Connor that is responsible for their fault, only for the people that serve under him and wanna get their planet back.

That's actually very true and your reasoning could be the lesson learned by John at the end of the story. I also thought it would be a good twist to have Kyle still show up!! which makes John realize that both he and Kyle came back to 1984 from alternate time lines.

 

[P.]

the more fans try to find hidden things in simple machine logic that T1 movie brought, the more stupid they sound.
like regular santa barbara isn't enough for them, they always dream of spoiling everything around.

 

[Karma]

 

[Skiman]

 

[King Darkness]

 

[Karma]

 

[Karma]

have to admit...this is my first hot toys figure and was a little cynical paying so much for a figure but once you see it in person........WOW


great.....more ways to spend money now