Hot Toys - MMS157- Sucker Punch: Babydoll

[Khev]

I don't know any women anywhere in any time, especially those abused by their step father who would fantasize being in a skimy outfit with a sword fighting Dragons and robots to help them deal with the ordeal of abuse.

The skimpy outfits and monsters weren't her "happy place." They were constructs in a dreamworld she imagined to escape the horrors of her reality. Abuse and revealing clothes were obviously part of her real world and weren't altogether purged from her subconscious until the very end.

*That* was her fantasy, a land of nurturing father figures, modest attire, and understanding authorities. The world she imagined Sweet Pea living in.

I didn't find it sexist, and neither did my wife. In fact apart from some of the action sequences and the length of Baby Doll's skirt she thought it was actually more of a chick's movie. I certainly have never known any dudes who listened to Bjork.

Again, I enjoyed it. But I know what it is. It's a boy fantasy and nothing more.

To quote a character from the movie, "Really? Lobotomized vegetable? That's your fantasy?"

 

[Star Puffs]

(almost )

you had me all the way up the Bjork part. I love Bjork!!! Shes amazing. Seen her live and her voice can just over power you. Dancer in the Dark one of the most emotional powerful movies you will ever see. Not every guy needs explosions and robots and guns LoL

I liked that film too.

Actually the discussion here makes me want to at least watch Sucker Punch to judge for myself.

This reminds me a bit of RoboCop. You can watch that movie as a straight-up, shoot-'em-up action film or you can watch it with an eye for the stinging critiques of society it offered (and was meant to offer according to both the screenwriter and director).

 

[devilof76]

You should. The irony is priceless, and I think it was lost on most (if not all) of its critics. Some of it's fans as well.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

April for this is actually fine for me, since SSC had it listed as Q2 since it was initially changed in November/December, so i'm set for that timeframe now

 

[xjamiex]

Must...have...Sweet Pea!!!

Please Hot Toys? I'll stop being a sinner! I'll even buy the DX-05. I'll give you my kidney. Just make her !

 

[steyfrosty]

Must...have...Sweet Pea!!!

Please Hot Toys? I'll stop being a sinner! I'll even buy the DX-05. I'll give you my kidney. Just make her !

Hahaha Hilarious! I'm with you, if they make Sweet Pea I'm joining the line! I'm waiting this time, I'm not gettin bated in like I did with the Platoon line. I bought Taylor and Barnes then...no Eilas! This time I'm waiting for Sweet Pea before I buy Baby Doll and Amber! Havnt gotton Barney Ross either since Statham & Li were skipped too!
HT has great lines but they don't finish them, so yeah Sweet Pea or nothin on this line!

 

[DeadLeaves]

Yeah, they shoot themselves in the foot with all these fake expanded line promises.

That said, I have both the SP girls on PO.

 

[thamesvalidude]

Hahaha Hilarious! I'm with you, if they make Sweet Pea I'm joining the line! I'm waiting this time, I'm not gettin bated in like I did with the Platoon line. I bought Taylor and Barnes then...no Eilas! This time I'm waiting for Sweet Pea before I buy Baby Doll and Amber! Havnt gotton Barney Ross either since Statham & Li were skipped too!
HT has great lines but they don't finish them, so yeah Sweet Pea or nothin on this line!

I'm in the line too!

 

[cplhicks]

Must...have...Sweet Pea!!!

Please Hot Toys? I'll stop being a sinner! I'll even buy the DX-05. I'll give you my kidney. Just make her !

Whoa, whoa lets not do anything crazy here. Lets all remain nice and calm.

 

[devilof76]

All 5 would be cool, but the only ones I really care about are Sweet Pea and Blondie.

 

[soundwave]

But if they dont do the rest, might get BD just to have a representation of her and the movie in my collection. I liked the movie a lot.

This is what I've been thinking of doing lately.
I loved the film...thought it was just a perfect no brainer & did exactly what I wanted...Girls, Guns, Fights & just kept me thoroughly entertained.

That's all I really want from films these days is escapism, long gone are the days that I cared about deep meaningful films that want me to think about central characters & moving storylines...I want to be entertained & Sucker Punch did just that.

It's actually right up there as one of my best films of last year.

I'd love a whole set of the laydeez but Baby Doll & Sweet Pea would be enough for me so I'll probably pick BD up sometime & hope the rest follow but that will be enough to begin with.

Neil

 

[dominishin]

Hrmm odd.

The film tried to be deep, meaningful, have layers, etc. etc.

But it didn't work. And now here's a film that probably would have been better if it was more obviously mindless. At least it could make fun of itself at that point.

 

[devilof76]

What do you mean by 'deep and meaningful'?

 

[dominishin]

Pretty much the standard in which people seem to judge films by. Hah.

I don't think this film needed it, just needed some god damn *good* action. Everything was derivative, and only got more annoying because it tried so hard to be more than it is.

Want a film with meaningful struggles and stories? Go watch City of God or something.

 

[xjamiex]

Whoa, whoa lets not do anything crazy here. Lets all remain nice and calm.

You started this for me as you were the one who told me to watch Sucker Punch...and now I loved it, I want more figures

 

[Eamon]

I would take the time to point out the utter stupidity of some posts but I see now there would be little point.

Highlander and Flash Gordon are classics because they succeed at what they are trying to do.

SP fails on it's own merits and that is why it will not become a classic.

You do not need to be an expert to figure that out but as I have learned from toy forums, being an expert would could for little anyways because people hold on to their opinions no matter the evidence or argument like it were a life source.

 

[devilof76]

Pretty much the standard in which people seem to judge films by. Hah.

I don't think this film needed it, just needed some god damn *good* action. Everything was derivative, and only got more annoying because it tried so hard to be more than it is.

Want a film with meaningful struggles and stories? Go watch City of God or something.

If you see nothing meaningful in the girl's struggle, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry you didn't get your t&a shoot 'em up flick.

 

[xjamiex]

If you see nothing meaningful in the girl's struggle, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry you didn't get your t&a shoot 'em up flick.

 

[dominishin]

Her "imaginations" completely trivialized her "struggles". That's the issue here. It all started to feel silly and hard to sympathize with.

It never took it full force either direction, leaving no real impression. The action was weak, and the story did not shine either.

I feel like some of you need to see how real films do it.

 

[soundwave]

Highlander and Flash Gordon are classics because they succeed at what they are trying to do.

SP fails on it's own merits and that is why it will not become a classic.

You do not need to be an expert to figure that out but as I have learned from toy forums, being an expert would could for little anyways because people hold on to their opinions no matter the evidence or argument like it were a life source.

The thing is I don't expect this film to ever become a classic I just said that I really enjoyed it.

I can look past it's flaws & what it tries to do & just enjoy the film for being fun.

Films are so subjective that to compare what I think makes a good film & what anyone else thinks makes a good film would be pointless as we all take something different from the medium & enjoy different things.

I love silly little action films like this & Horror but you wouldn't catch me sitting through teen comedies or drivel like Titanic, Apollo 13 or the Artist.

Now I know we will all argue our points till we are blue in the face because the internet is so full of willy waving & my opinion is the only one that counts but at the end of the day we all like what we like & we just have to appreciate that some don't like the same things & won't understand why we do...that's just human nature.

I'm happy I like it & others do but I also understand that some thinks it tosh & I respect that...I can't & wont change your mind.

Neil