Hot Toys - MMS179 - The Amazing Spider-Man: Spider-Man

[RIDDICK]

I wish I could go back to 2002-2004 and see how all the Maguire Peter Parker Spider-Man haters really felt back then as opposed to now.

Wait till the next Spidey reboot and you will see everyone hating scrawny Twilight haired Garfield and loving the new guy.

 

[DiFabio]

Whilst in essence, I agree with you, Only Maguire can be blamed for doing it as bloody awfully as he did. He was terrible! And, let's be honest, who actually could like this...

?

Taking a screen grab like that is taking it out of context.



His actual scene played out with the death of Uncle Ben? Perfectly fine. Better than any of the emotional acting Garfield tries in ASM. Maybe I should take a screen grab of second long troll faces Garfield makes.




[ame]https://youtu.be/ouG3PqGxTmM[/ame]








In literally seconds his face changes from deep sadness to anger and rage when he over hears the cops mention the carjackers location. Until recently (and until Spider-Man 3) I never saw any memes or people making fun of it.

Wait till the next Spidey reboot and you will see everyone hating scrawny Twilight haired Garfield and loving the new guy.

Pretty much.


Or if ASM 2 is just as cheesy and lame as Spider-Man 3.

 

[Furyan]

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Tobey's crying in that scene was fine it fit the moment. Sm3 ramped it up to him ballingg his eyes over MJ and dancing and so many other cringeworthy moments.

 

[SkyIScrape]

It's amazing how one bad sequel can sully a viewers appreciation of what came before it. I admit the generally poor quality of Spider-Man 3 affected how I viewed the previous films, since I could only rewatch them with full knowledge of where they'd end up. Sadly, I feel the same way watching the first two Nolan Batman films after seeing TDKR, but to a much lesser degree.

 

[tommyh84]

...waitin...waitin...


WIP, but still missing something...hmmmm..

That's going to look awesome when complete

 

[RIDDICK]

It's amazing how one bad sequel can sully a viewers appreciation of what came before it. I admit the generally poor quality of Spider-Man 3 affected how I viewed the previous films, since I could only rewatch them with full knowledge of where they'd end up. Sadly, I feel the same way watching the first two Nolan Batman films after seeing TDKR, but to a much lesser degree.

Use the force of Abstracting, young padawan.

 

[mikericm]

Tobey's crying in that scene was fine it fit the moment. Sm3 ramped it up to him ballingg his eyes over MJ and dancing and so many other cringeworthy moments.

Yep.

That and the Saturday Night Fever strut scene where he thinks he is gods gife to women!!

It is a shame his performance in the 3rd ruined the first 2. I liked them a lot

 

[Origami]

...waitin...waitin...


WIP, but still missing something...hmmmm..

 

[DiFabio]

I don't see how a dud of a movie ruins the other ones that came before it, especially if you liked them/him before 2007. It just doesn't make sense. He was a good, every day, awkward kid learning about responsibility in the first one. In the second one the responsibility is straining him emotionally, physically and financially. I don't see what Maguire did wrong. Yeah, nobody likes Emo Spidey (I don't see why they like Hipster ASM either) who dances in 70s fashion acts like a weirdo, but before that, there was nothing wrong.


TDKR felt stupid and lame to me, I didn't like it, but it doesn't make me view Batman Begins and The Dark Knight any differently. I still love them.


Terminator 3 is crap, Arnold as the T-850 was obnoxious. T4 was bad too. Doesn't mean that takes away from Terminator and Terminator 2, or that Arnold sucks in it.

Same with Star Wars.



Tobey Maguire wasn't dancing or strutting or looking emo in Spider-Man 1 and 2. I don't remember any complaints about him in those first two films when they came out or until after Spider-Man 3 and this whole ASM thing.

Hell, I remember back when Spider-Man 2 was in pre-production and Maguire hurt his back and wasn't sure if he'd return everyone seemed to be afraid that they were going to recast him with Jake Gyllenhaal.










So a douchey, skateboarding, hipster bro Peter with fingerless gloves and no respect (doesn't even respect the dying last words of his girlfriend's father) is cool, but a a douchey, strutting, emo Peter who wears all black and has no respect is fine?


I don't get that one.

 

[Gully Foyle]

<Goes over to ASM movie thread to discuss this figure>

 

[SkyIScrape]

I don't see how a dud of a movie ruins the other ones that came before it, especially if you liked them/him before 2007. It just doesn't make sense.

Everyone watches movies for different reasons and in different ways, which is the beauty of the medium. Knowledge is cumulative, and if you watch sequels as I do, part of a continuous story that doesn't end just because the credits roll after part 1, then it becomes hard to separate out the elements of the complete story that you like and the ones you don't.

Regardless, the new film was surprisingly good and I may pick this figure up after seeing some in-hand pictures. It would be great to have figures chronicling the progression of his costume from film to film, and the benefit of Spider-Man is having so many dynamic poses!

 

[DiFabio]

How do you feel about Doctor Jones by Indiana Jones 4? Or "John McClane" by Die Hard 4 and 5?


Does it sour Raiders of the Lost Arc and Die Hard?

 

[RIDDICK]

Deff must or else it does not make any sense.

 

[SkyIScrape]

How do you feel about Doctor Jones by Indiana Jones 4? Or "John McClane" by Die Hard 4 and 5?


Does it sour Raiders of the Lost Arc and Die Hard?

Touché. I won't go into great detail since I'm sure Spider-Man fans don't want films, much less Indiana Jones, discussed in their thread. However, I would be lying to you if I said it doesn't pain me a bit to watch Raiders knowing that it was the adventure that would ultimately result in Mutt Williams.

And I did say "sully a viewers appreciation", not make them outright hate what came before it. Spider-Man 1 and 2 were pretty good, but the Raimi/Maguire Spider-Man story as a whole is lessened by the third part. Same with all the franchises you mentioned, particularly those that are designed to showcase a character arc and not just a series of adventures. I think it also depends how invested you are in the story.

There is only one franchise that I can admit to successfully ignoring the horrid sequels and that's Highlander. But that's simpler because each successive film, while getting worse, also essentially negates the prior film from happening anyway.

 

[DiFabio]

However, I would be lying to you if I said it doesn't pain me a bit to watch Raiders knowing that it was the adventure that would ultimately result in Mutt Williams.

All you have to do is this,

Indiana Jones 4 never existed. There is no Mutt Williams in Raiders and there will never be.

Peter Parker was never emo and danced to funky 70s jazz. Uncle Ben was killed by a random, nameless car jacker, not Sandman.

Batman never quit, retired and moved to Italy as a permanent tourist. Bane never existed.

Prequel Star Wars never happened. Stormtroopers aren't clones. Vader wasn't a whiny, slave, puss, there wasn't a Jar Jar Binks.

Die Hard ended with Die Hard III.

Terminator ended after T2.


etc. etc.

 

[AIR]

All you have to do is this,

Indiana Jones 4 never existed. There is no Mutt Williams in Raiders and there will never be.

Peter Parker was never emo and danced to funky 70s jazz. Uncle Ben was killed by a random, nameless car jacker, not Sandman.

Batman never quit, retired and moved to Italy as a permanent tourist. Bane never existed.

Prequel Star Wars never happened. Stormtroopers aren't clones. Vader wasn't a whiny, slave, puss, there wasn't a Jar Jar Binks.

Die Hard ended with Die Hard III.

Terminator ended after T2.


etc. etc.

Keep telling yourself that

 

[The Rage]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that in 3, Peter is wearing the symbiote full time, and its ****ing with him. Thats why he's a douche and cocky and acting like a ***** constantly. Tobey's acting was fine for portraying how the symbiote was trying to take over Peter's body/life.

I'm not making excuses for SM3, because it was a piece of **** because of the fight between Avi Arad and Sam Raimi, but Tobey did a great job playing someone being forced to the other end of their emotional spectrum by an alien life form.

 

[The Iron Koob]

The movie was pretty good until he did his hair thing

 

[Mix Master]

The movie was pretty good until he did his hair thing