Hot Toys - MMS179 - The Amazing Spider-Man: Spider-Man

[TheVictor11]

What? How are "I'd like to see the next movie address something besides Spidey's origin, which has now had TWO initerations inside ten years" and "I want to change a significant part of Spidey's life!" equivalent statements?

I don't want to "make significant changes to his life." I'd just like to see more OF it. This character has decades-worth of stuff going on. We'll never see it, because we'll never get past his girlfriends before we reboot the series AGAIN and start from scratch.

You asked for the goblin to dangle someone else other than Gwen off the bridge. That's kind of a huge thing, imagine Bucky not "dying" in WWII or having someone other than Nick Fury assemble the Avengers.

I also don't see where you got the idea that they're going to reboot Spider-Man for the 3rd time. From my understanding they're going with it. Although it's unfortunate Marvel isn't 100% in control

I am more than certain that you will get your wish.

You know, I am female and even I have had enough of this extreme interest in Peter's love-life.

I don't see how gender has anything to do with that. Yea his love life was a large factor in the first trilogy but that kinda was his biggest guilt. You can ditch the whole "Jobless Parker" and "my aunt is running out of money" but not including his love life is a mistake in my opinion. Spider-Man is a character who is conflicted with having to leave his personal life on hold because he puts his responsibilities ahead of everything else. I want to see that in his movies and love being a majority of that, I'm fine with it. Other wise we get an origin movie about the villain and Spider-Man comes in as an excuse for an action sequence.

The Dark Knight Rises had the issue where Batman didn't get enough development. Rises felt like a Bane movie and it just so happened to have Bruce Wayne and Batman.

Perhaps the main thing fueling this on the studio's part is that it is much CHEAPER to film a touching chit-chat out by the trash-cans between Peter and MJ [yes, actually happened] than a supervillian throw-down.

Just because they develop Gwen or MJ doesn't mean the studio is cheaping out. If it fleshes out or evolve Peter as a character and still works to provide a good movie then it should be done. If I wanted to see a movie loaded with action and fighting I'd go watch Ong Bak or Expendables.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Yea his love life was a large factor in the first trilogy but that kinda was his biggest guilt. You can ditch the whole "Jobless Parker" and "my aunt is running out of money" but not including his love life is a mistake in my opinion. Spider-Man is a character who is conflicted with having to leave his personal life on hold because he puts his responsibilities ahead of everything else. I want to see that in his movies and love being a majority of that, I'm fine with it. Other wise we get an origin movie about the villain and Spider-Man comes in as an excuse for an action sequence.

The Spider-Man comics are hugely centered around the Peter Parker character and his friends, family and love interests.

A perfect Spidey film should therefore ideally be around 60% by 40% Peters life and Spidey action.

It happens in all superhero film Ramatuelle, there was more Tony Stark in Both Iron Mans than there was Iron Man, Incredible Hulk should've been called Incredible Banner has it didn't have much Hulk in it.

At least Peter Parker is more relatable and likable than most secret identities

 

[TheVictor11]

I think as long as there's a good balance of Peter and action it'll be a good Spider-man movie. Unless the script is just plain awful, then it doesn't matter how much of either you put in

Tony Stark is weird for me, I love seeing him invent stuff. It's my favorite part of the Iron Man movies cause it's who he is and shows how he's always evolving similar to how technology is. I like seeing Iron Man blowing things up though. It's a very close second.

Back on topic

Why is Medicom's eyes so much better? We need another update soon

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I think as long as there's a good balance of Peter and action it'll be a good Spider-man movie. Unless the script is just plain awful, then it doesn't matter how much of either you put in

a.k.a Spider-Man 3

 

[TheVictor11]

a.k.a Spider-Man 3

 

[Ramatuelle]

You asked for the goblin to dangle someone else other than Gwen off the bridge. That's kind of a huge thing, imagine Bucky not "dying" in WWII or having someone other than Nick Fury assemble the Avengers.

Nope. That was my point, that I DONT want to see anyone else being dangled off a bridge. We've seen it once, and smart money says it will be seen again in the next movie. Do not want.

[I wish the studio luck in casting a Goblin other than Dafoe; those are some mighty big shoes to fill. But yeah, that whole mess will be dealt with next.]

I also don't see where you got the idea that they're going to reboot Spider-Man for the 3rd time.

In less than ten years, they'll reboot it again.

The Dark Knight Rises had the issue where Batman didn't get enough development. Rises felt like a Bane movie and it just so happened to have Bruce Wayne and Batman.

Batman had been developed for two whole movies prior to. Not even counting the movies before that! How much development does he need?!!

Just because they develop Gwen or MJ doesn't mean the studio is cheaping out. If it fleshes out or evolve Peter as a character and still works to provide a good movie then it should be done. If I wanted to see a movie loaded with action and fighting I'd go watch Ong Bak or Expendables.

Superhero movies by default should be "loaded with action and fighting." Otherwise we could all go tune in to "Young and Restless." Or maybe the Lifetime network.

This is not a zero-sum equation: romance is not unimportant, but you're like If we don't get a bunch of romance, it'll be loaded with action and fighting.... as if that was a bad thing. And as if it HAS to bo 100% one or the other.

 

[TheVictor11]

Nope. That was my point, that I DONT want to see anyone else being dangled off a bridge. We've seen it once, and smart money says it will be seen again in the next movie. Do not want.

I misread that the first time, my fault.

In less than ten years, they'll reboot it again.

I guess. Only reason I could see them doing that is if they mess it up hardcore and Marvel gets the rights back. Not a huge stretch I suppose.

Batman had been developed for two whole movies prior to. Not even counting the movies before that! How much development does he need?!!

The idea of a reboot is you start from scratch, anything previous to the reboot is irrelevant otherwise he would've fought the Joker and Two Face twice. BB deals with him beginning his career, DK is him in his prime, DKR is him retired and getting back into it. Retiring his career was a huge deal and I think they missed the mark on not expanding on it.

Superhero movies by default should be "loaded with action and fighting." Otherwise we could all go tune in to "Young and Restless." Or maybe the Lifetime network.

This is not a zero-sum equation: romance is not unimportant, but you're like If we don't get a bunch of romance, it'll be loaded with action and fighting.... as if that was a bad thing. And as if it HAS to bo 100% one or the other.

Sounded like you were against the idea of romance.

You know, I am female and even I have had enough of this extreme interest in Peter's love-life. Perhaps the main thing fueling this on the studio's part is that it is much CHEAPER to film a touching chit-chat out by the trash-cans between Peter and MJ [yes, actually happened] than a supervillian throw-down.

Also I never said it had to be one or the other, just that you can't cut one out for the other.

If it fleshes out or evolve Peter as a character and still works to provide a good movie then it should be done. If I wanted to see a movie loaded with action and fighting I'd go watch Ong Bak or Expendables.

I think as long as there's a good balance of Peter and action it'll be a good Spider-man movie. Unless the script is just plain awful, then it doesn't matter how much of either you put in

Regardless, I'm done. You have your expectations and I have mine, this is becoming a waste of forum pages.

 

[Furyan]

Having....trouble....reading through the quotes,....mmmust focus..

 

[eczamurai]

Next movies will probably have better Goblins, but not so good Osborns. Honestly, I don't see any way they can be topped, Dafoe and Franco can be topped casting wise.

 

[eczamurai]

New Spidey film should be directed by Lucas or Spielberg. Ewoks.

 

[DGTWoodward]

Conflicted hero? Too busy saving the city? Just don't have time to eat properly....You need,

ARACHNA-LAX!!!

(with extra 'Crapocrud' guaranteed to flush any stubborn Maguires out of your system)

 

[galmando]

Insightful as this debate may have gotten, shouldn't this be continued in the Movies section now?

 

[Jme_c]

It bores me coming to this thread now! I oddly thought we was here to talk about a figure, but maybe I'm in the wrong place?

 

[Gully Foyle]

New Spidey film should be directed by Lucas or Spielberg. Ewoks.

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[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

It bores me coming to this thread now! I oddly thought we was here to talk about a figure, but maybe I'm in the wrong place?

The Medicom figure released, it looks quite good. Makes me anticipate this even more

 

[TheVictor11]

I hope we get comparison shots between the 2. They've got their pros and cons so it'll be interesting to see which comes out on top.

 

[JamesHBK]

I have faith Hot Toys will do a better job. My biggest gripe is the ending of the red design on his abdomen in the costume. It really brings the figure down. Medicom's doesn't look that bad. If Hot Toys can fix that problem then this figure will be a-ok in my eyes.Speaking of eyes, Hot Toys could take note as to how Medicom produced the eyes on their Spidey ( both RAH and MAFEX).

I wonder when we will see the Official pics and Specs of The Andrew Garfield sculpt. I've been nothing but impressed since seeing it at STGCC this year.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

^ do you mean the rounding at the bottom of the red?

 

[EVILFACE]

So does the HT one come with sandles too?

 

[badrat]

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