1/6 Hot Toys MMS200 - Man of Steel: Superman Collectible Figure

[creasy]

I'm sorry I just don't get it. Everyone in this forum
Nit picks and customises to make it as movie accurate as they can and then some people stick an entirely different head on?? If you think there's only one superman and that's the Christopher reeve version why not get it?
Why even by the man of steel version?
And what bastardise it buy mixing them up???

 

[melkorjunior]

I'm sorry I just don't get it. Everyone in this forum
Nit picks and customises to make it as movie accurate as they can and then some people stick an entirely different head on?? If you think there's only one superman and that's the Christopher reeve version why not get it?
Why even by the man of steel version?
And what bastardise it buy mixing them up???

I assume you haven't read my previous post yet?

Just because other people on this forum nit pick about movie accuracy that doesn't mean I do. For instance, I couldn't give even the tiniest little percentage of a crap about the position of the cape collar relative to the "S" insignia and I think people who risked damaging their figure with x-acto knives to do the cape mod and lower the collar by an eighth of an inch for movie accuracy are out of their minds. It looks just fine stock.

And like I said before, I prefer the extra height and muscularity of the MOS body for my Superman figure--it looks a lot better next to other modern heroes on my shelf. The original Reeve Superman body is a bit too lean looking next to characters like Thor, not to mention too short. And then there's the whole spandex outfit thing. And I do actually think the figure looks better with the Reeve head than with a Cavill head, not just because Reeve was the best Superman, but also because the Cavill head is too big and adds even more height to an already elongated body.

 

[creasy]

But if you love Christopher reeve as superman surely you have to love his spandex, his comic book interpretation into film. His pants on the outside and all that original comic book stuff goes hand in hand with the original iconic Superman film. I'm pretty sure that's why it's loved by so many. Because it is the perfect interpretation of that and they done it so well. For me I didn't and I liked the man of steel version that went away from that look and changed the canon from that and made it fresher, which was disliked by many but also liked. It's completely different.
Also why would you display him next to thor?

 

[melkorjunior]

But if you love Christopher reeve as superman surely you have to love his spandex, his comic book interpretation into film. His pants on the outside and all that original comic book stuff goes hand in hand with the original iconic Superman film. I'm pretty sure that's why it's loved by so many. Because it is the perfect interpretation of that and they done it so well. For me I didn't and I liked the man of steel version that went away from that look and changed the canon from that and made it fresher, which was disliked by many but also liked. It's completely different.
Also why would you display him next to thor?

Well the spandex looked cool for its time but in my mind now it's too "Adam West-ish" next to modern superheroes. I saw the first Superman movie in theaters when I was a kid and it was awesome, but time marches on and I prefer the modern aesthetic when it comes to superhero costumes. But Reeve will always be Superman to me and so I needed his head on top. (Also it didn't help that I thought the Cavill Superman movie was pretty lame. Superman doesn't work as an angsty conflicted guy.)

Superman is with Thor on my shelf because I'm putting together my own version of the Avengers which will eventually include: Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hit-Girl (my kitbashed version with the Kumik head that makes her look about 20), Spider-Man, and Superman. Not enough of a fan of the Hulk to buy the figure when it's so out of proportion with everyone else, and I just don't like Renner's Hawkeye.

I'm not one of those "movie accuracy" people, obviously.

 

[creasy]

I absolutely agree with the spandex look, it's not my thing at all. I know what your saying about man of steel but I liked it over all the marvel movies where pretty much the same thing happens and all the characters are the same, every finale they're saving the city via airborne fire fight and multiple ground battles!
No man I wasn't havin a dig, everyone to there own. Was just wantin to understand why, wouldn't mind seeing a pic of your collection too

 

[Username]

I don't get people putting reeve's head on the man of steel body. After all the crying out about accuracy and customising to make it more accurate and then you do this?? Wtf

Sometimes it's cool to change heads for pics.
If you don't get it, fine.
But there's no need to get upset about it.

 

[Ropen]

Why does everyone hate Man of Steel?

 

[Predator1221]

Why does everyone hate Man of Steel?

I hated it at first, because my expectations were extremely high and it did not even come close to meeting them. MOS has started to grow on me over time. I actually love the new superman look, I also think the darker mood of the movie works a some of the time, and emphasis on him being an alien is refreshingly different. Also I was glad they utilized the laser vision (I mean is it to much to ask for a superman with freakin laser beams shooting from his freakin head) But I also now see and understand the flaws that initially made me hate it so much.

First off the movie desperately needed more humor. I respect that they were going for a darker serious tone as opposed to the campier reeve movies, but this film desperately needed some levity. I agree with melkojunior about the angsty conflicted superman in MOS not working. The movie way over did the flash backs to superman's child hood, they brought very little to the movie and only served to make the story line seem less linear. When supes was talking to the priest about revealing himself to the world and they flashed to him being bullied as a kid I thought to myself jesus we get it, it was hard growing up as superman, now can we move on with the story. They made superman so conflicted he actually lets his adoptive father be sucked into a tornado. I don't care if he waved him off instructing him not to, that seen is just one of many I thought was done wrong. I also really hated that Jor El beat the crap out of Zod in the first act. Russell Crowe seems to have a brawling bad a$$ clause in all his film contracts, unfortunately this time demasculinizes the villain in the first 15 min of the film (Zod kinda need his masculinity to work).

 

[BeefEaster]

I personally thought man of steel was great

it has everything a superman movie needed to have

 

[Predator1221]

I personally thought man of steel was great

it has everything a superman movie needed to have

I totally respect that. After a little time I now totally get why some could feel that way. They did do a lot right.

 

[Chrono]

I hated it at first, because my expectations were extremely high and it did not even come close to meeting them. MOS has started to grow on me over time. I actually love the new superman look, I also think the darker mood of the movie works a some of the time, and emphasis on him being an alien is refreshingly different. Also I was glad they utilized the laser vision (I mean is it to much to ask for a superman with freakin laser beams shooting from his freakin head) But I also now see and understand the flaws that initially made me hate it so much.

First off the movie desperately needed more humor. I respect that they were going for a darker serious tone as opposed to the campier reeve movies, but this film desperately needed some levity. I agree with melkojunior about the angsty conflicted superman in MOS not working. The movie way over did the flash backs to superman's child hood, they brought very little to the movie and only served to make the story line seem less linear. When supes was talking to the priest about revealing himself to the world and they flashed to him being bullied as a kid I thought to myself jesus we get it, it was hard growing up as superman, now can we move on with the story. They made superman so conflicted he actually lets his adoptive father be sucked into a tornado. I don't care if he waved him off instructing him not to, that seen is just one of many I thought was done wrong. I also really hated that Jor El beat the crap out of Zod in the first act. Russell Crowe seems to have a brawling bad a$$ clause in all his film contracts, unfortunately this time demasculinizes the villain in the first 15 min of the film (Zod kinda need his masculinity to work).

ROFL on the Russel Crowe having a brawling bad @$$ clause in all his contracts.

I thought I was the only one who's pissed at Supes letting his dad get sucked into a tornado, he looked matured enough to think for himself. Wtf. If I was Supes, I'd probably be a monarch and kill people as a side game like Injustice Supes hahahhaha.

Still, he has the best suit design for me. Looks alien and uber organic. A compression suit that further helps him fight. Awesome.

 

[Predator1221]

ROFL on the Russel Crowe having a brawling bad @$$ clause in all his contracts.

I thought I was the only one who's pissed at Supes letting his dad get sucked into a tornado, he looked matured enough to think for himself. Wtf. If I was Supes, I'd probably be a monarch and kill people as a side game like Injustice Supes hahahhaha.

Still, he has the best suit design for me. Looks alien and uber organic. A compression suit that further helps him fight. Awesome.

If you watch Noah it's the same thing, Crowe kicks the crap out of 3 dudes in the beginning like it's nothing even though it totally contradicts the character. It's funny you would mention thinking you were the only one who hated the tornado scene. I have brought it up with friends and it seems like it didn't really stand out to many of them. That seen in particular made me want to scream WTF in the crowded theater. The 1978 superman was simple but still powerful and humanizes the character, He dies right in front of him from a heart attack and despite all his power he can do nothing to save him just like the rest of us. In reality they just did the opposite of one another, one would have saved him if only he could, the other could have saved him but didn't. I could go on for pages about critical errors in that movie.

 

[melkorjunior]

If you watch Noah it's the same thing, Crowe kicks the crap out of 3 dudes in the beginning like it's nothing even though it totally contradicts the character. It's funny you would mention thinking you were the only one who hated the tornado scene. I have brought it up with friends and it seems like it didn't really stand out to many of them. That seen in particular made me want to scream WTF in the crowded theater. The 1978 superman was simple but still powerful and humanizes the character, He dies right in front of him from a heart attack and despite all his power he can do nothing to save him just like the rest of us. In reality they just did the opposite of one another, one would have saved him if only he could, the other could have saved him but didn't. I could go on for pages about critical errors in that movie.

Yeah, the tornado scene was just a dumb decision on the part of the writer (Goyer?). Clark should have been smart enough to find a way to save his father without giving away his identity--Reeve's Clark did that sort of thing all the time without a sweat. And even if Cavill's Clark had to give away his identity to save his father from the tornado, so what? No one in their right mind would let their father die over it. And then the mass destruction of Metropolis while Superman doesn't even give a thought to all the people who must have been dying on the ground was just horrible. Contrast that with Superman II, when Reeve was actively trying to save people during his entire fight with Zod. Meanwhile Cavill was smashing skyscrapers apart--skyscrapers that had to be brimming with people--without giving it a second thought. And then the whole neck-breaking thing. Nope, no thanks, this isn't Superman as far as I'm concerned. DC's comic books take themselves way too seriously and their movies do too. There's a fine line between presenting your heroes as "modern mythology" and making them seem inhuman.

 

[Bjjer]

Yeah, Crowe beating up Zod bothered me about the movie early on. How can a bred for war bad ass general(who looked to be in his prime) get his butt kicked by a bred for science scientist. I mean anything is possible but comparing the soldiers/fighters and science guys I've met it wouldn't be a fight. That just kinda set the mood for the movie for me. There were some good parts but mostly it was a B-/C+ movie. I did like the HT figures though.

 

[spindrift]

Never mind the HT MOS Supes is one outstanding figure- near perfection in my book and posed right on the flying stand it has incredible display presense...

 

[Username]

Yeah, Crowe beating up Zod bothered me about the movie early on. How can a bred for war bad ass general(who looked to be in his prime) get his butt kicked by a bred for science scientist. I mean anything is possible but comparing the soldiers/fighters and science guys I've met it wouldn't be a fight. That just kinda set the mood for the movie for me. There were some good parts but mostly it was a B-/C+ movie. I did like the HT figures though.

What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended? What if a child aspired to something greater?


Jor-El's entire idea was to say that Kryptonians could be what they wanted to be, when Doctrine said they couldn't.

What if Jor-El had studied fighting techniques, even though he wasn't supposed to?
And what if Jor-El was genetically engineered to be able to assimilate any technical knowledge? Even though he's *supposed* to be studying science, if he was willing to break one set of laws, he could have broken more.
It's not a stretch to me that Jor-El could have learned fighting techniques.
Or that Zod wouldn't have been prepared to fight a scientist on even terms.

 

[Rainpaulo]

MOS is the best superman movie ever made...it's exactly the type of film this character deserved...great work to all involved

 

[The Iron Koob]

I get that point Username but isn't this the version where Jor-el says that he couldn't have come to Earth because he was part of the old Kryptonian way of life (being genetically engineered) and he had no place among humans and Kal-el? Or was that another version? I get it mixed up. If that was the case, I still feel like he shouldn't have been able to defeat Zod. From a storytelling point of view, it also doesn't make sense to defeat your villain in the first act at his specialty.

As far as the tornado thing: Yeah it doesn't work as well as the heart attack but I give them credit for trying. It was much better than the writing in the Amazing Spider-man, what a joke.

 

[Chuck72586]

MOS is the best superman movie ever made...it's exactly the type of film this character deserved...great work to all involved

It's a decent Superman movie, but the people involved could have and should have done way better and the character himself deserves way better. For all of Snyder's talk leading up to MOS where he said Superman is "The King Daddy" of superheros he really didn't do much to try and show why that is. MOS is about as generic a Superman movie as you can get. The movie covers the essentials, but I think it dropped the ball when it comes to the "Why?" and "How?" does Clark eventually become Superman. He basically becomes Superman because Zod showed up and forced his hand when I think there should have been a moment before then where he decided this is what he wanted to do with his life and his powers. I mean, how does he end up at that point in the film and still not have a clear idea of what he wants to do? What was the point of his travels around the world if wasn't going to come to some type of conclusion on his own? He gets back to Smallville and Zod shows up and he still has to go to some random priest to ask for advice on what he should do. Thanks to Snyder's not so subtle Christ comparisons/metaphors we know Clark was 33 years old at this point in time. He should have had things figured out at that point and I think that's MOS's biggest failure. He wasn't proactive nearly enough. I don't think it makes it a bad Superman movie, per se, but I do think it was a big mistake on the part of Goyer and Snyder.

 

[Username]

I get that point Username but isn't this the version where Jor-el says that he couldn't have come to Earth because he was part of the old Kryptonian way of life (being genetically engineered) and he had no place among humans and Kal-el? Or was that another version? I get it mixed up. If that was the case, I still feel like he shouldn't have been able to defeat Zod. From a storytelling point of view, it also doesn't make sense to defeat your villain in the first act at his specialty.

Of course. I was just coming up with one possible reason.
I don't mind either way. I like the movie, but the jor el/zod fight is the least of the problems in it.