Hot Toys : New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming
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Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
Ya the purple clown outfit will be "second version" all new and improved, and it more then likely will come with the nurse gear this time instead of the cop stuff.
When the box says "2.0" it sounds like a second version rather then something new like nurse Joker.
Here's hoping
Ya the purple clown outfit will be "second version" all new and improved, and it more then likely will come with the nurse gear this time instead of the cop stuff.
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Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
Hoping for a THIRD "regular" Joker? Why?
When the box says "2.0" it sounds like a second version rather then something new like nurse Joker.
Here's hoping
Hoping for a THIRD "regular" Joker? Why?
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dominishin
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I know it's fake or whatever, but wtf, you guys have miracle ____ in your eyes or something? I don't see a BR head with rooted hair in this pic.
Nvm, someone must've taken the pic down to confuse the ____ out of people.
This is crazy
I know it's fake or whatever, but wtf, you guys have miracle ____ in your eyes or something? I don't see a BR head with rooted hair in this pic.
Nvm, someone must've taken the pic down to confuse the ____ out of people.
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Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
Well while HT themselves do not benefit at all from secondary market sales, if there are bunch of Jokers moving here and there for fairly high prices, it indicates a demand for this particular figure, if they can retool or change even slightly not only will they capture the new demand but possibly create demand from current holders which translates to direct sales which they obviously do benefit from. While it pisses off some collectors, it isn't exactly bad business from a profits standpoint...
Well while HT themselves do not benefit at all from secondary market sales, if there are bunch of Jokers moving here and there for fairly high prices, it indicates a demand for this particular figure, if they can retool or change even slightly not only will they capture the new demand but possibly create demand from current holders which translates to direct sales which they obviously do benefit from. While it pisses off some collectors, it isn't exactly bad business from a profits standpoint...
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There were pics posted of a custom by lalla (BR Head with rooted hair), I guess they have been edited out of the post because its confirmed as a custom and not the real DX02
There were pics posted of a custom by lalla (BR Head with rooted hair), I guess they have been edited out of the post because its confirmed as a custom and not the real DX02
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But Mike, it'll be the THIRD time for this particular version and the FOURTH for this character.
And that's just Hot Toys we're talking about. There's also been a DCD version, a Medicom version and others I'm surely missing. Then we've had dozens of customizers with their unique takes on the character. Some great affordable headsculpts as well as expensive. Variations of each. Tailored clothes designed specifically for certain bodies, custom clothes, hand made items, special casts etc.
How much further can one go? There are still some highly anticipated films and characters that have yet to be made, and others are in the works that have taken decades to come to fruition. But here we have a billion incarnations of the same thing, pumped out in a mere 3 years? And most of those things are quality and fully realized pieces.
I don't feel sorry for anyone at this point. If you missed out on the v1 in 2008, then the Bank Robber a few months later and finally the DX in 2009, well, where the hell have you been? And that's disregarding the fact that each of those could be had for less than the MSRP for MONTHS. V1 could be had for $90 or less, Bank Robber $100, DX for $140. So if it was a financial thing, how could anyone STILL miss out.
But Mike, it'll be the THIRD time for this particular version and the FOURTH for this character.
And that's just Hot Toys we're talking about. There's also been a DCD version, a Medicom version and others I'm surely missing. Then we've had dozens of customizers with their unique takes on the character. Some great affordable headsculpts as well as expensive. Variations of each. Tailored clothes designed specifically for certain bodies, custom clothes, hand made items, special casts etc.
How much further can one go? There are still some highly anticipated films and characters that have yet to be made, and others are in the works that have taken decades to come to fruition. But here we have a billion incarnations of the same thing, pumped out in a mere 3 years? And most of those things are quality and fully realized pieces.
I don't feel sorry for anyone at this point. If you missed out on the v1 in 2008, then the Bank Robber a few months later and finally the DX in 2009, well, where the hell have you been? And that's disregarding the fact that each of those could be had for less than the MSRP for MONTHS. V1 could be had for $90 or less, Bank Robber $100, DX for $140. So if it was a financial thing, how could anyone STILL miss out.
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I get what you're saying Defab. I don't like it either just b/c it feels like it's going downthe iron man road. I know there are ppl who have bought every incarnation, but for someone like me who wants to have one version, it's hard to buy now knowing that a possible superior version will come out later. But at the same time it doesn't bother me. I don't worry about figures losing value b/c that's not why I collect. But the DX01 will lose some once the piece is out then either level at still a high price or go back up some. V1 Joker still goes for around retail as well as Harvey Dent while earlier this year Harvey was $60 on amazon and V1 joker was $90
I get what you're saying Defab. I don't like it either just b/c it feels like it's going downthe iron man road. I know there are ppl who have bought every incarnation, but for someone like me who wants to have one version, it's hard to buy now knowing that a possible superior version will come out later. But at the same time it doesn't bother me. I don't worry about figures losing value b/c that's not why I collect. But the DX01 will lose some once the piece is out then either level at still a high price or go back up some. V1 Joker still goes for around retail as well as Harvey Dent while earlier this year Harvey was $60 on amazon and V1 joker was $90
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Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
Retail? V1 has been hitting $200+ lately... nuts.
Retail? V1 has been hitting $200+ lately... nuts.
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Yeah i really don't get it
But clearly the 'my figures will lose value' argument doesn't hold in light of how the v1 joker and v1 TDK Batman have held up.
Yeah i really don't get it
But clearly the 'my figures will lose value' argument doesn't hold in light of how the v1 joker and v1 TDK Batman have held up.
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I haven't seen any on eBay that have actually sold for that. Though I don't check as often as I used to so
I haven't seen any on eBay that have actually sold for that. Though I don't check as often as I used to so
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Maybe they're being snatched up by people sick of seeing Ledger's Joker face?
Maybe they're being snatched up by people sick of seeing Ledger's Joker face?
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The reason Hot Toys keeps releasing Joker figures is(IMO) purely a business decision. I'm sure HT looks at their sales sheets and sees everyone eats up the Batman line. I mean first and foremost, HT is a business that has to make a profit. I think cool figures has very little to do with what HT makes. It's more of a what sells attitude. That's why we have so many Bats and IM stuff. Hot Toys knows very well that this stuff will sell very well. Now, if this V 2.0 Joker doesn't sell very well then no more Jokers.
The reason Hot Toys keeps releasing Joker figures is(IMO) purely a business decision. I'm sure HT looks at their sales sheets and sees everyone eats up the Batman line. I mean first and foremost, HT is a business that has to make a profit. I think cool figures has very little to do with what HT makes. It's more of a what sells attitude. That's why we have so many Bats and IM stuff. Hot Toys knows very well that this stuff will sell very well. Now, if this V 2.0 Joker doesn't sell very well then no more Jokers.
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This may seem like exciting times, especially for Hot Toys, but I personally think they're digging their own grave.
I think they've bitten more than they can chew. Think about it, there are about 8-9 DX figures now? Joker, Batman, MJ, Bruce Lee, Indy, Jack Sparrow, Luke, Joker, Batman and now, another Joker.
9 figures, only 4 of which have been made, 1 with infamous quality control issues, 1 which is in development hell with an unknown status, another that has been hyped up but has yet to ship, and the remaining 4 have only had a presence at the conventions. 2 of those shown in person the other two on a simple piece of paper and a place card holder. And, wait a minute, isn't there another Jack Sparrow coming too? Hahaha, THE FIRST ONE HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED YET!
And that's just their DX line?
How about MMS? How about their new Star Wars LFL license? Avatar, Watchmen, Terminator, Predator, Batman, Bruce Lee, Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, MGS, Sucker Punch, reboots, modern films, classic. Hell, I know I'm missing something.
Then there's also this new trend of rereleasing or completely remaking a character/figure. Batman, Predator, Joker and Iron Man are now on their thousandth figure. This is something that was always considered taboo and unheard of. Now, it's simply expected. Don't get me wrong, this just isn't about value and secondary market, it's about legitimate collectibility. IF they'll always make a better version, why should we buy the previous one? Why collect at all if it's only about upgrading?
I'm sure they have good intentions but in the next year or so, I sense broken promises and over-saturation. There's always a double edged sword.
This may seem like exciting times, especially for Hot Toys, but I personally think they're digging their own grave.
I think they've bitten more than they can chew. Think about it, there are about 8-9 DX figures now? Joker, Batman, MJ, Bruce Lee, Indy, Jack Sparrow, Luke, Joker, Batman and now, another Joker.
9 figures, only 4 of which have been made, 1 with infamous quality control issues, 1 which is in development hell with an unknown status, another that has been hyped up but has yet to ship, and the remaining 4 have only had a presence at the conventions. 2 of those shown in person the other two on a simple piece of paper and a place card holder. And, wait a minute, isn't there another Jack Sparrow coming too? Hahaha, THE FIRST ONE HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED YET!
And that's just their DX line?
How about MMS? How about their new Star Wars LFL license? Avatar, Watchmen, Terminator, Predator, Batman, Bruce Lee, Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, MGS, Sucker Punch, reboots, modern films, classic. Hell, I know I'm missing something.
Then there's also this new trend of rereleasing or completely remaking a character/figure. Batman, Predator, Joker and Iron Man are now on their thousandth figure. This is something that was always considered taboo and unheard of. Now, it's simply expected. Don't get me wrong, this just isn't about value and secondary market, it's about legitimate collectibility. IF they'll always make a better version, why should we buy the previous one? Why collect at all if it's only about upgrading?
I'm sure they have good intentions but in the next year or so, I sense broken promises and over-saturation. There's always a double edged sword.
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Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
The last few v1 Joker sold for:
$157 July 28 (sealed)
$199 July 28 (sealed)
$228 July 27 (sealed)
$212 July 27 (sealed)
$131 July 26 (opened)
$142 July 21 (opened)
$185 July 21 (opened)
kind of had a bump in price a few days ago, and now seems to be going back down slightly...
The last few v1 Joker sold for:
$157 July 28 (sealed)
$199 July 28 (sealed)
$228 July 27 (sealed)
$212 July 27 (sealed)
$131 July 26 (opened)
$142 July 21 (opened)
$185 July 21 (opened)
kind of had a bump in price a few days ago, and now seems to be going back down slightly...
Re: Hot Toys New DX TDK Joker 2.0 Coming?
ask bowen how all the redo's & re-releases worked for them
ask bowen how all the redo's & re-releases worked for them
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Yeah the HT bubble is bound to burst with the amount of licenses they've taken on and un-addressed QC issues. They simply don't have enough quality sculptors to do justice to all of the licenses they have taken on.
And you get the feeling the next QC disaster is around the corner
Yeah the HT bubble is bound to burst with the amount of licenses they've taken on and un-addressed QC issues. They simply don't have enough quality sculptors to do justice to all of the licenses they have taken on.
And you get the feeling the next QC disaster is around the corner
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