1/6 Hot Toys - Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Vice Admiral Holdo - SPECULATION

[hokietwo]

They will not sell. The duck trooper is too far gone to recover from the poor sales and/or over production from the first TFA wave.

 

[Khev]

They will not sell. The duck trooper is too far gone to recover from the poor sales and/or over production from the first TFA wave.

Yeah. Or they might just take all their existing unsold TFA Troopers, swap out the helmets and see if the new look moves their already produced stock.

 

[Khev]

The lady who created her, Claudia gray:

And everything makes sense now, doesn’t it?

The young adult authors who write those "Journey to The Last Jedi" books don't invent characters for the films. They take characters from the script and retroactively write tie-in novels that feature them. So Holdo was a Rian Johnson creation.

 

[Popnfresh98]

The young adult authors who write those "Journey to The Last Jedi" books don't invent characters for the films. They take characters from the script and retroactively write tie-in novels that feature them. So Holdo was a Rian Johnson creation.

She wrote the backstory that I quoted from the wiki however, which is even stupider. She also wrote a Leia book called princess of Alderaan in which Leia dyes her hair blonde. Which again, tells one all they need to know about where Disney is allowing this to be taken.

That’s my only point here, Johnson is an idiot too so I can believe he made the character. History is going to be very unkind to him.

Yeah. Or they might just take all their existing unsold TFA Troopers, swap out the helmets and see if the new look moves their already produced stock.

They’d have to do a massive recall for this which isn’t remotely feasible. They can do it for anything back in the warehouse but I doubt they have much back there as they’re trying to move all their stock desperately.

So, The Last Jedi is what you get when your mom writes Star Wars.

Or your uncool dad who wants to prove he ‘gets it’

 

[Wor-Gar]

Isn't that the teacher who was arrested for sleeping with her student?

 

[Popnfresh98]

You don’t want to know where those balls have been..

 

[JonWes]

She wrote the backstory that I quoted from the wiki however, which is even stupider. She also wrote a Leia book called princess of Alderaan in which Leia dyes her hair blonde. Which again, tells one all they need to know about where Disney is allowing this to be taken.

Whoa, women dying their hair! That's shocking, and clearly indicative of the moral downward spiral of Star Wars.

That’s my only point here, Johnson is an idiot too so I can believe he made the character. History is going to be very unkind to him.

I really am starting to lose brain cells reading this stuff. I'm outta here. Enjoy.

 

[Khev]

She wrote the backstory that I quoted from the wiki however, which is even stupider. She also wrote a Leia book called princess of Alderaan in which Leia dyes her hair blonde. Which again, tells one all they need to know about where Disney is allowing this to be taken.

Oh I'm not denying that the Claudia chick is a piece of work who probably writes garbage.

That’s my only point here, Johnson is an idiot too so I can believe he made the character.

Yeah I didn't really think that my point of clarification would make increase your respect for Johnson.

Or your uncool dad who wants to prove he ‘gets it’

Hey what are you trying to say!

 

[Tom Day]

Holdo was just an ok character but Laura Dern was brilliant. I actually think Johnson invented her character solely to replace Leia for as much of the film as possible because the older Carrie Fisher really couldn't act.

 

[hokietwo]

They’d have to do a massive recall for this which isn’t remotely feasible. They can do it for anything back in the warehouse but I doubt they have much back there as they’re trying to move all their stock desperately.

Probably how this got made.

 

[koonfasa]

They will not sell. The duck trooper is too far gone to recover from the poor sales and/or over production from the first TFA wave.

I would have loved to get some TFA troopers and stuff, but every single line decided to let loose on OT at the same time, so guess what took a second seat. If they'd space releases out (and put up with our ire of not releasing particular characters quick enough, our budgets would have spread out across the three era's. Their own fault for being too greedy.

 

[hokietwo]

But what is stopping you now? These troopers can be easily had for way under retail and save a lot of money vs retail. If these are so wanted than why are they still available everywhere and no large discounts seem to be able to clear them out? Seems that after 2 years and all the other gaps in buying OT things which has not gotten a release since I believe Boba Fett there's been ample time to get these if people truly wanted to have them in the collection.

I am speculating because we really don't know the volume made on these troopers they could have sold well relative to other figures but to me they were poor sellers and pretty evident with the ~$100 USD price tag these can be regularly picked up for.

 

[TonTon]

If they made one or two versions of the Stormtrooper they would have sold fine, but they made 6 really similar variants (regular, squad leader, Jakku, gunner, Commander, riot) in a really short span, and then obviously the TIE, Flame Trooper, and Snowtrooper too, and those were in the movie for 2 minutes each. Even some of the OT Stormtrooper variants (Stormtrooper, spacetrooper) lingered for a really long time.

But obviously in general the OT is always going to sell better, that much more of a built in adult fan base.

 

[hokietwo]

Agree with everything you said. It comes down to hot toys really over estimating the buyer’s want for armored troops. It made them gun shy and has definitely affected their choices on delivering specific pieces from the new movies.

They still have not filled the rogue one group (krennic,baze) and went gun shy with a Poe and Leia from TFA. TLJ line seems measured as well. I think the lobster men will be made in very short supply and we will see that once released. HT are suckers for cheap and easy armor style figs as we all know but they learned a lesson with the duck troopers.

 

[Niltusk]

Yeah. Or they might just take all their existing unsold TFA Troopers, swap out the helmets and see if the new look moves their already produced stock.

I couldn't tell if the other troopers got the OT tooth treatment, I could definitely tell it hadn't affected Phasma, you could clearly see her grill during the closeup fight with Finn, but I just couldn't tell with the other FO troopers.

 

[BT-1V]

Depends on when you got the hot toys bug tbh.

Before TFA/Civil War Hot toys didnt sold as much as now, it was more of a small club at least in europe, now they are all over the internet even on mainstream website, they are even in every freaking MALL/ Big Train Station in France at prices so expensive you wont believe it.

Also snowtrooper definetly arent all over the internet at half price, especially in europe where its much much pricier than in the US here you get the duopack for 370-450€++ new and they got vaporised within days , when visiontoys had a sale.

 

[koonfasa]

I just paid for Drax and Han in disguise. Still haven't made it to ESB yet...

 

[xipotec]

Being in the military myself, that's not really how it works at all. The opposite actually.

Also, don't make this a SJW gender thing. Leia is a woman and no one hates her. Holdo is just a crap character.

You don't want to "subvert expectations" when you are in command. You want everyone to know and feel that you are both in charge and credible to lead as soon as you walk in the room. Otherwise you end up with exactly what you saw in the movie; disillusioned followers who aren't going to be motivated to follow your orders.

That's why the military has standards of dress and appearance, and exactly why we don't allow this kind of nonsense in the real military. It encourages discipline and gives everyone regardless of rank a common mindset to relate to each other on.

Having spent years studying real leadership, Holdo was every single example of what not to do.

Huh....most of my friends who served in the Iraq war would disagree with you....including the special forces one.

They didn’t question orders ever....if you did you were guaranteed a spot at the burning pit, or an extra couple hour of PT.

The one that did refuse and order did so because the radio cord he was told to give we’re dead wrong and would have gotten troops killed....

He got reprimanded and spent a lot of time watching trash burn and breathing the fumes.....he was/is a high clearance communications officer.


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[xipotec]

Huh....most of my friends who served in the Iraq war would disagree with you....including the special forces one.

They didn’t question orders ever....if you did you were guaranteed a spot at the burning pit, or an extra couple hour of PT.

The one that did refuse and order did so because the radio cord he was told to give we’re dead wrong and would have gotten troops killed....

He got reprimanded and spent a lot of time watching trash burn and breathing the fumes.....he was/is a high clearance communications officer.

He was correct BTW....and they didn’t radio in the Coords......still got punished.

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[hokietwo]

Depends on when you got the hot toys bug tbh.

Before TFA/Civil War Hot toys didnt sold as much as now, it was more of a small club at least in europe, now they are all over the internet even on mainstream website, they are even in every freaking MALL/ Big Train Station in France at prices so expensive you wont believe it.

Also snowtrooper definetly arent all over the internet at half price, especially in europe where its much much pricier than in the US here you get the duopack for 370-450€++ new and they got vaporised within days , when visiontoys had a sale.

Two commanders for $279.99USD/233 Euros shipped if you buy two. The snowtroopers are like weeds in the states, took me 30 seconds to find that.