Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (June 30th, 2023)

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The Rocketeer though.

Another boring 90's film.

Great costume and the film is well made. The film clearly wanted to be a new Raiders of the Lost Ark. Ironically, the film is now a lost artifact, except no one is looking for it.

 

[Khev]

It was a nice trial run for Cap:TFA at least.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

It was a nice trial run for Cap:TFA at least.

Jennifer Connelly was just...

They should put the Rocketeer in the MCU.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yeah, I wanted to like the Rocketeer. But it was boring.

They should have made Rocketeer 2... with him going up against those Nazi Rocket Men seen in the reel. Think what they'd be able to do today with an air war of Rocket Men vs Rocketeer and war planes!

 

[xipotec]

I met HF in a professional setting in a small group (dailies for mid-90s movie) and he was pretty cool and laid back, joking around and laughing.

What was funny is that he arrived (in the tiny screening room) after the lights had gone down and I just heard his voice right behind me and I knew immediately who it was.

Yeah, same situation. It’s was a dailies also.
Nice guy, but I get the feeling he’s genuinely perplexed by his stardom and fan worship....I think he finds it absurd.

 

[The Buffinator]

Another boring 90's film.

Great costume and the film is well made. The film clearly wanted to be a new Raiders of the Lost Ark. Ironically, the film is now a lost artifact, except no one is looking for it.

Not to be confused with the "stellar" 1980s Indy knockoffs King Solomon's Mines and Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold. I don't think Richard Chamberlain's career was ever quite the same after those (now fossilized) turds.

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Not to be confused with the "stellar" 1980s Indy knockoffs King Solomon's Mines and Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold. I don't think Richard Chamberlain's career was ever quite the same after those (now fossilized) turds.

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To be fair, King Solomon's Mines was a remake of a 1950's film, but clearly the remake was meant to capitalize on Indy's popularity.

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[Wor-Gar]

Those did give us Sharon Stone. For what's she worth.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Speaking of knockoffs, remember this Disney cartoon?

Chip was dressed like Indy and Dale was Magnum PI, played by Tom Selleck, the original actor chosen to play Indy. Now Disney owns both.

 

[Wor-Gar]

That must have great significance in some 'verse. And its oddly strange yet acute that you even noticed that.

How does someone with a Joker avatar know these things? You should be dark and moody.

 

[The Buffinator]

To be fair, King Solomon's Mines was a remake of a 1950's film, but clearly the remake was meant to capitalize on Indy's popularity.

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True, but since when is fair a thing on this forum?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge. Disney cartoons did that a lot. Darkwing Duck was a Batman knockoff and DuckTales was influenced by the Indy films, but what a lot of people don't know is that the Raiders opening with the idol and giant ball was taken directly from a Scrooge Mcduck 1950's comic, and that character is the protagonist in Ducktales. And even stranger, George Lucas wrote the introduction to a book compilation of Scrooge McDuck stories long before Raiders was made. I think Lucas always knew that Disney would eventually own his stuff. It was just a matter of time.

 

[TaliBane]

My exact problem with the film. Boring. No great set pieces. And Pacino was just silly. No threat.

Good choice with Flattop.

It's true (never understood why there was just a couple of chaarcters with rubber mask faces when everyone else just had tehir own human face) but I enjoyed seeing it in the 1930s themed Majestic Crest in Westwood in L.A., that Disney had just renovated at great expense - it even had a period 30s skyline on the walls that kind of glowed in the dark before the movie came on.

I saw several Disney movies of that early-mid 90s era in that theater and it really enhanced the experience.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The 90's were full of failures that were meant to be franchise starters. The Phantom, The Shadow, Robin Hood, Stargate, Super Mario Bros, Double Dragon, Waterworld, Congo, Tank Girl...the list just goes on and on. A Kid in King Arthur's Court and a personal favorite, The Indian in the Cupboard, which was just part one of a four book series.

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[TaliBane]

Yeah, I wanted to like the Rocketeer. But it was boring.

They should have made Rocketeer 2... with him going up against those Nazi Rocket Men seen in the reel. Think what they'd be able to do today with an air war of Rocket Men vs Rocketeer and war planes!

Yeah before KOTCS Rocketeer to me was basically the weakest Indy film by far. Partly because it had no lead actor - it was like someone cut out around him. The blandest, most uncharismatic guy to be cast in a major Hollywood movie ever.

And also partly because the whole thing felt like a cheesy Indy knock-off.

Jennifer Connelly was just...

They should put the Rocketeer in the MCU.

You need to rent "The Hot Spot" and now.

My roommate had it on Laser disc and I think he wore right through one certain place on that disc.

Hey, it was before the internet was what it was today. (though this roommate had the internet even in 1991 - the first thing I ever saw via the internet was he showed me a crudely photoshopped image of Julia Roberts nude.)

Yeah, same situation. It’s was a dailies also.
Nice guy, but I get the feeling he’s genuinely perplexed by his stardom and fan worship....I think he finds it absurd.

That's so weird - same era, mid 90s?

It was weird for me because it was just HF, the director, the DP, the prod designer and me in there. So Jack Ryan's on the screen but also sitting right behind me.

After the dailies were done and the lights are on they're all sitting there chatting as this tiny group and at one point I'm like "this is kinda weird."

Though in the previous 2-3 years I had chanced into situations where I was either alone (or couple of other people) with Arnie, Sly and Seagal - just in elevators, in office corridors, in soundstage entries etc.

But then I... also had a run-in with Rosanne Barr-Arnold in Bev Hills and almost had a head-on collision with Mel Brooks on the Fox lot.

 

[jye4ever]

I’m with Wor-Gar i’m burnt out of genre cinema my enthusiasm is tired i’m ready to hang it up.

Nothing wrong with that especially when we have a massive treasure trove of riches to choose from our great past.

BUT if I may just for one moment I would like to give a counter point to what I view as Wor-Gar’s flaw and a fatal one at that.

Wor-Gar, always looking to the past never his mind on the horizon.

His very mindset that the sky is falling that nothing will ever be as good as what came before has literally been proven wrong every decade of his life over and over and over again.

Here see for yourselves:

Wor-Gar circa 1980 “Genre cinema is derivative and dead NOTHING will ever be as good as JAWS, ANH, 2001, EXORCIST, Rocky, STM, ALIEN!” (insert your own 70s masterpieces).”

Then the 80s roll around and gives us ESB, Raiders, Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Road Warrior, First Blood, Die Hard, Robocop, Conan, The Thing, Batman…insert your own!

Oh oh here comes Wor-Gar circa 1990: “Genre cinema is derivative and dead NOTHING will ever be as good as the great 1980s and before!”

Then the 90s roll around and gives us T2, Heat, True Lies, Matrix, Jurassic Park, Goldeneye, Seven, Blade, Die Hard 3, Total Recall, Ronin, Unforgiven, Reservoir Dogs…insert your own!

Wor-Gar circa 2000: “Genre cinema is derivative and dead NOTHING will ever be as good as the great 1990s and before!”

Then 2000 rolls around and gives us LOTR, MCU, BB, TDK, Spiderman 2 seriously do I even need to add more lol

Wor-Gar circa 2010: “Genre cinema is derivative and dead NOTHING will ever be as good as the great 2000s and before!

Then 2010 rolls around and gives us MCU ifinity saga finale, Logan, Dredd, John Wick, Hereditary, Alita, BR2049, Mars AND ground breaking Mandalorian!

Now here we are again Wor-Gar circa 2020: “Genre cinema is derivative and dead NOTHING will ever be as good as the great 2010s and before!

Yet we already got the masterpiece known as Mando S2 and much more to come!

See here is the thing I got a dirty little secret for Wor-Gar regarding his grievance against superheros made of rubber.

In Raiders when Marion hits Indy with the mirror in real life Indy would’ve been laid out in the hospital with a broken jaw not fighting nazis like the rubber superman that he was.

Real life is boring right.

Captain America might be rubber but at least he has the super soldier serum to back up his absurdity.

We can retire from genre cinema but make no mistake about it greatness will still find its way into genre cinema fans lives.

Enjoy the here and now and keep one eye in the past and one on the horizon.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

You need to rent "The Hot Spot" and now.

Never seen it, but I just googled it and it starts Don Johnson, and I'm a big Don Johnson fan.

 

[Khev]

In Raiders when Marion hits Indy with the mirror in real life Indy would’ve been laid out in the hospital with a broken jaw not fighting nazis like the rubber superman that he was.



Real life is boring right.



Captain America might be rubber but at least he has the super soldier serum to back up his absurdity.

Or swimming a hundred yards in open ocean to the sub with a bullet in his arm. I don't even think Cap could do that, lol.

Epic post jye! And dude did you just mention...Alita?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I've modeled my whole life after Don Johnson's character in Miami Vice, except I'm not an under cover cop, don't drive a Ferrari , don't live in a boat with a crocodile and don't have *** with hot women every night. I'm in Florida tho.

 

[jye4ever]

Or swimming a hundred yards in open ocean to the sub with a bullet in his arm. I don't even think Cap could do that, lol.

Epic post jye! And dude did you just mention...Alita?

My own list has the ST

I've modeled my whole life after Don Johnson's character in Miami Vice, except I'm not an under cover cop, don't drive a Ferrari , don't live in a boat with a crocodile and don't have *** with hot women every night. I'm in Florida tho.

lol

But yikes I hope you don’t live in one of those high rises on a soft sinking ground!

What’s crazy is that when the navy set off those huge explosives in the ocean 100 miles off the Florida coast last weekend which registered a 4.0 earthquake I started scratching my head when I saw the reports of those south american earthquakes a few days later and now that building collapse in Florida within the same week as those military tests.

Yikes.