Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[BadMoon]

That alien at the end was so stupid looking.

The should have had a big reveal of the powerful alien and it was --

CHEWIE. rrraaaarg!

Dude the whole end of this movie was stupid. Damn I hate saying that. I really want to like it but just have to call it's bluff. It is pretty lame. I think for me it was the UFO taking off and going into space. That did it. That was the nail. That ruined the whole damn movie for me.

 

[IrishJedi]

The UFO didn't actually fly off into space... it teleported into another dimension.

(BTW, I also like that it was designed after the supposed S-4 saucer )

 

[DarkArtist81]

Besides, you could say the same about any of the MacGuffins. The Grail itself may or may not exist at all, the Ark as well. They are all mystical artifacts...

 

[adambadadam]

I think that they're aliens is open to interpretation. The humanoid look to me leaves it open to possiblity they are humans from another Earth.

Yeah, the whole "space between space" and all the dimensional references.

Are they really aliens or super-evolved humans who use that extra space in their brain.

 

[IrishJedi]

Besides, you could say the same about any of the MacGuffins. The Grail itself may or may not exist at all, the Ark as well. They are all mystical artifacts...

The Sankara Stones are real, though. I use one as a door stop. Siva would be proud.

 

[RevRanger]

Do you think George and Steven ever made out or anything?

Those pictures of them shooting each other with squirt guns and giggling like little girls and stuff are VERY SUSPECT.

 

[MaulFan]

The UFO didn't actually fly off into space... it teleported into another dimension.

(BTW, I also like that it was designed after the supposed S-4 saucer )

Is that the one in the classic photo, like Mulder's "I WANT TO BELIEVE" poster?

 

[BadMoon]

The UFO didn't actually fly off into space... it teleported into another dimension.

That makes it so much better.

Damn I really like Indy. Seriously I really do. I could get the myths in all of the other movies. I just feel that they pushed this way to far. Did anyone else notice that Harrison looked twice as old in the beginning than when they hit the forests. Also the music was more SW than Indy. Yes I know JW did the ST but at times I was waiting for the SW love themes to kick in. This movie to me ranks up there with War of the Worlds. Not garbage, not bad, just a big budget movie.

 

[Entropy]

Why? Who on Earth is going to defend that script?

I dunno. I heard some mentioning Oscar talk and "best movie of the year" a day or so ago.


And I think I get what Badmoon was saying maybe. That the movies were based on B movie serials but transcended that because of they had high production value and were well written & directed?

Think there is some confusion over the somewhat contradictory definitions of 'B' movies, from wiki: In its current usage, the term has two primary and somewhat contradictory connotations: it may signal an opinion that a certain movie is (a) a genre film with minimal artistic ambitions or (b) a lively, energetic film uninhibited by the constraints imposed on more expensive projects and unburdened by the conventions of putatively "serious" independent film. The term is also now used loosely to refer to some higher budgeted, mainstream films with exploitation-style content, usually in genres traditionally associated with the B movie.

 

[adambadadam]

Dude the whole end of this movie was stupid. Damn I hate saying that. I really want to like it but just have to call it's bluff. It is pretty lame. I think for me it was the UFO taking off and going into space. That did it. That was the nail. That ruined the whole damn movie for me.

And if they didn't show it, the same people would complain that there would be no excuse for ILM to hold out on the audience!

 

[IrishJedi]

Is that the one in the classic photo, like Mulder's "I WANT TO BELIEVE" poster?

Yes, sir.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Wow, I'm surprised how deeply people are scrutinizing the plot of an Indiana Jones movie. Aliens, 700 year old knights, magical cults, it's all silly fun. I'm more of a casual Indy fan and a fan of 50's B sci-fi, so that probably helped in my enjoyment of KOTCS. It's no Raiders, but what is?

 

[icruise]

I dunno. I heard some mentioning Oscar talk and "best movie of the year" a day or so ago.[/I]

I'll have to admit, from the very first scene I was saying to myself, "What was Gruff Old Bear smoking when he wrote that?"

 

[IrishJedi]

Wow, I'm surprised how deeply people are scrutinizing the plot of an Indiana Jones movie. Aliens, 700 year old knights, magical cults, it's all silly fun. I'm more of a casual Indy fan and a fan of 50's B sci-fi, so that probably helped in my enjoyment of KOTCS. It's no Raiders, but what is?

Very well said.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Wow, I'm surprised how deeply people are scrutinizing the plot of an Indiana Jones movie. Aliens, 700 year old knights, magical cults, it's all silly fun. I'm more of a casual Indy fan and a fan of 50's B sci-fi, so that probably helped in my enjoyment of KOTCS. It's no Raiders, but what is?

Great quote... And very well put. I am right there with you brother.

 

[BadMoon]

I'll have to admit, from the very first scene I was saying to myself, "What was Gruff Old Bear smoking when he wrote that?"

Getting pushed out of trunk. Dont forget that the fridge had lead written on it so that made it safe.

 

[IrishJedi]

Getting pushed out of trunk. Dont forget that the fridge had lead written on it so that made it safe.

I hope you rolled your eyes like that when Indy went flying out of a plane (and off a 2,000 foot high cliff) on a rubber raft.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I must say, it's odd being on this side of the fence. I remember quite vividly attacking the HELL out of TPM, saying it was the WORST film I had ever seen. That the only redeeming factor was the lightsaber battle. And there were those that loved it, and I just kept beating them down for their opinion... just repeating how much I hated the film...

Man, karma comes around... Now I know how the other side felt.

I still think that TPM is a much worse movie than KOTCS.

 

[Entropy]

Wow, I'm surprised how deeply people are scrutinizing the plot of an Indiana Jones movie. Aliens, 700 year old knights, magical cults, it's all silly fun. I'm more of a casual Indy fan and a fan of 50's B sci-fi, so that probably helped in my enjoyment of KOTCS. It's no Raiders, but what is?

I never understand these comments. I love analyzing and dissecting any story. Doesn't matter if it's low brow art or high brow, comic books or Shakespeare, I don't discriminate, it's all the same to me. I very much enjoy breaking apart narratives and figuring out why they work or don't work.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I hope you rolled your eyes like that when Indy went flying out of a plane (and off a 2,000 foot high cliff) on a rubber raft.

Exactly. How is this any different?