Legalizing Marijuana

[Shatterer of Dreams]

I'm PRO on legalizing it....becuz I do think it is beneficial to our economy, and but I do understand the concern of having a bunch of freaking pot heads every where!

I mean...like many say, there are some that can control them selves but there are some idiots out there that just abuse it to much and fry there brains out causing stupidness (those are the annoying ones).....


Side note: I'm definetly gonna get me some Space Cake when I go to Amsterdam.

well as stated before you can't help the stupid ones but using that as the basis for the argument to keep pot illegal is hypocritical at best since people abuse all sorts of legal things.....alcohol, tobacco, cough syrup, house cleaning agents, the list goes on and on and pot is not addictive nor will it kill you. Oh and pot heads are already everywhere!

careful on the space cakes, the locals always laugh at the tourists because you'll see them passed out in the park with a half eaten space cake in their hands still

 

[Jen]

Bam - I'd be careful too - watch your wallet. I had a couple guys come up to me outside of a smoke shop...trying to coax me inside all the while trying to steal my wallet! There are locals who are just waiting for tourists to get f'd up so they can take advantage! Be careful girl! But have fun. Amsterdam is beautiful - and the Red Light District is....interesting. I kind of found it a bit sad myself...but that's just me.

 

[ProgMatinee]

So you guys want America to be the test case? Seems a bit shaky to me.

I'd really like to know the result of widespread legalization. I don't really want America to be the test case of having pot as easily and readily available as Mountain Dew.

In very isolated locations I can see it working, but in every house hold...hmm. Maybe there can be a town in Nevada or something that legalizes it. Nation or even state wide? Would like a better test before jumping in head first.

 

[Bamboota]

careful on the space cakes, the locals always laugh at the tourists because you'll see them passed out in the park with a half eaten space cake in their hands still

That IS funny!

Bam - I'd be careful too - watch your wallet. I had a couple guys come up to me outside of a smoke shop...trying to coax me inside all the while trying to steal my wallet! There are locals who are just waiting for tourists to get f'd up so they can take advantage! Be careful girl! But have fun. Amsterdam is beautiful - and the Red Light District is....interesting. I kind of found it a bit sad myself...but that's just me.

Thanx for the tip, I'll probably have one of my Dutch friends with me...so I can tell them to talk to me in Dutch while we're walking in so they could think I'm a local!

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

So you guys want America to be the test case? Seems a bit shaky to me.

I'd really like to know the result of widespread legalization. I don't really want America to be the test case of having pot as easily and readily available as Mountain Dew.

In very isolated locations I can see it working, but in every house hold...hmm. Maybe there can be a town in Nevada or something that legalizes it. Nation or even state wide? Would like a better test before jumping in head first.

well it is just California first, so you'll get you test, California is always ahead of the curve with this "progressive" stuff anyways so i say go for it.

 

[occulum]

sure is an active thread
Youd think all the supporters would be too lazy to post ... nom nom nom .....

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

i'm having someone else type these for me.

 

[Darth Cruel]

well as stated before you can't help the stupid ones but using that as the basis for the argument to keep pot illegal is hypocritical at best since people abuse all sorts of legal things.....alcohol, tobacco, cough syrup, house cleaning agents, the list goes on and on and pot is not addictive nor will it kill you. Oh and pot heads are already everywhere!

careful on the space cakes, the locals always laugh at the tourists because you'll see them passed out in the park with a half eaten space cake in their hands still

Hypocritical? Now THERE is a word that is abused to an incredible extent.

However...this point of view seems o me to be saying that it is OK to put just one more danger in a world filled with dangers.

Oh...and to state that marijuana is not addictive is realy kind of mis-directing. It is not PHYSICALLY addictive. It is psychologically addictive. That is to say that there are no physical discomforts during detox as there are with some other substances. But people become psychologiclly addicted to marijuana just as some others do to food or gambling or any of a million other habit-forming activities.

And there are arguments that the use of marijuana can lead to the use of stronger drugs. Some people refer to reefer as a "gateway" drug. Personally, I do not like that term because it implies that marijuana use has only one direction...toward stronger drugs. And I think that simple common sense would show that to be untrue. Edit - But there are aspects of our communities who would not be able to control themselves with it.

I could also turn a decidedly political bent to this thread, but I do not want to get it locked. I will dance around that angle by saying that history has showed us that when aspects of this Nation that should be left out of this conversation are given an inch, they want a mile. Then that inch eventually becomes a mile with our consent, but without our preference. And this is just one more inch being given to them to turn into a mile a few years down the road.

I like marijuana as much as anybody. But every single argument made points toward a single conclusion...

It would be foolhardy to legalize marijuana.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I think the assumption that "anyone that would smoke pot if it was legal is already smoking it illegally" is really short sighted.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

ok, addictive personalities are out there but again we would have to make almost everything in our lives illeagal so that we can protect those few abusers from themselves. The money that we spend on fighting marijuana alone is ridiculous considering that if you really want it you can get it with great ease.

gateway drug, that's always my favorite because that's an argument of the ignorant. most people drink alcohol before they ever try pot.......

as far as political bent goes i don't see how legalizing pot is going to lead to some kind of slippery slope, is this the gateway law?

just because the government decided a long time ago that pot is on the same level as heroin and cocaine doesn't mean that if we legalize pot that other dangerous drugs will become legal. People really do know the difference.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

I think the assumption that "anyone that would smoke pot if it was legal is already smoking it illegally" is really short sighted.

i would disagree, open your eyes and look at the studies it's way more common than you think.

 

[Darth Cruel]

So you guys want America to be the test case? Seems a bit shaky to me.

I'd really like to know the result of widespread legalization. I don't really want America to be the test case of having pot as easily and readily available as Mountain Dew.

In very isolated locations I can see it working, but in every house hold...hmm. Maybe there can be a town in Nevada or something that legalizes it. Nation or even state wide? Would like a better test before jumping in head first.

I will tell you something, Prog. This statement hits on and would be an excellent example of a belief of mine that is so strong that I can not see why everybody does not see it and fight for it. Once again, I do not want to take this thread in a political direction.

Oh, but would that I could.

 

[Darth Cruel]

i would disagree, open your eyes and look at the studies it's way more common than you think.

I do not smoke pot. I have not for over 20 years.

I miss it. I want to. But I do not..and for only one reason...it is illegal...as it should be.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I'm not saying its not common. I'm saying that unless you can prove that there is a certain section of society that would DECREASE use because it was legalized then mathematically making it easier to obtain, more affordable and less taboo it therefore WILL INCREASE. Its math.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I will tell you something, Prog. This statement hits on and would be an excellent example of a belief of mine that is so strong that I can not see why everybody does not see it and fight for it. Once again, I do not want to take this thread in a political direction.

Oh, but would that I could.

PM Me I want to know!

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

I'm not saying its not common. I'm saying that unless you can prove that there is a certain section of society that would DECREASE use because it was legalized then mathematically making it easier to obtain, more affordable and less taboo it therefore WILL INCREASE. Its math.

i don't know but prohibition seems to be a good example of a decrease once it was legal.

 

[LOTRFan]

Leave Nevada alone!

But we do have counties where prostitution is legal (and it is very common outside of those too, duh right ), and honestly the locals tend to leave it alone.

But we couldn't grow it here (at least outdoors) ... too hot.

 

[ProgMatinee]

i don't know but prohibition seems to be a good example of a decrease once it was legal.

What? Where are you getting that? Consumption went down when alcohol was made legal again? I doubt that!

 

[pixletwin]

I say it has to be all or nothing. If you make marijuana illegal than you should also make Alcohol illegal.

 

[ProgMatinee]

on a moral standpoint, I can't disagree Pix, and thats why I'm not making the moral argument here. Hell I drink like a fish!

On a practical and logistical level keeping 1 thing illegal is a heck of a lot different than repealling something that is currently legal.

The letter of the law always seems hypocritical at the dividing point, but there is always a dividing point.