Legendary Pictures' GODZILLA - !!SPOILERS!!

[jye4ever]

I love his feet.

 

[MaulFan]

My list is the same except 84 is replaced with 89.

89 would be #4 and 65 would be #5, mostly nostalgia.

 

[jye4ever]

Now that Godzilla was a hit word is that Jurassic World is beefing up their monster stuff.

 

[Biojex]

89 would be #4 and 65 would be #5, mostly nostalgia.

Now that I'm thinking about it the 70's suit (68-72) is up there near #1. I think It's neck and neck with 89.

Now that Godzilla was a hit word is that Jurassic World is beefing up their monster stuff.

T-rex shoots atomic breath?

 

[MaulFan]

Now that I'm thinking about it the 70's suit (68-72) is up there near #1. I think It's neck and neck with 89.

65 isn't the greatest, but growing up, that one was in the most movies I watched, Ghidorah, Monster Zero, Sea Monster, I just came to know THAT image as Godzilla, it was until DVD that I really got exposed to a lot of the other suits.

 

[greygoose]

Now that Godzilla was a hit word is that Jurassic World is beefing up their monster stuff.

I've just read that. A new dinosaur spliced from T-Rex, Raptor, snake and cuttlefish DNA.

 

[Biojex]

I've just read that. A new dinosaur spliced from T-Rex, Raptor, snake and cuttlefish DNA.

Cthulhu

 

[MaulFan]

I've just read that. A new dinosaur spliced from T-Rex, Raptor, snake and cuttlefish DNA.

I feel like that detail marks the point where the JP franchise has now

 

[occulum]

 

[The Iron Koob]

I just want to see Godzilla go toe to toe with a bunch of other monsters. Not sure how they can write an actual sequel though

 

[Rorywan]

Got the art of destruction book today, thanks for the recco Maul. Beautiful book.

 

[Adolfo]

I just want to see Godzilla go toe to toe with a bunch of other monsters. Not sure how they can write an actual sequel though

A sequel is freakin easily done for this type of film. Whether or not it's good or bad, that is the question

 

[JAWS]

Hahahaha, Cloverfield better than this movie???
That barf-inducing POS pales in comparison to Godzilla... How anyone can find that crap even remotely watchable is mind-boggling!

Yep.... Cloverfield was a better "Godzilla" film then Godzilla was.

Even though I do agree, these films are far different. It's the same with Pacific Rim and Godzlla, such different movies. There's two elements that work against Cloverfield, the camera, and Hud. I don't mind the camera, it never bothered me, and I love Hud, I thought he was hilarious. But these arguments can be made against Cloverfield such as the characters can be argued in Godzilla, it's just down to a matter of taste.

I'm actually surprised no one's brought up King Kong in all of this. Am I the only one that absolutely loves PJ's King Kong? I preferred it to Godzilla, I just connect much more with the characters and action on screen. But it is nice to live in a day and age where we have BOTH films made with modern technology. What other giant monster movies are out there that could be worth a look being remade today?

I compare Cloverfield because it was a giant monster stomping in the city. I thought it had scenes that reminded me how great a new Godzilla film could be. I also thought the characters were better. But it is hand held so it is much different in style. But Godzilla was filmed from the "human" point of view so in a way they were similar.

I liked King Kong... But I was let down by it. He humanized Kong too much. I like the old Kong that ripped trains apart trying to Find his girl. Jackson's Kong was too "sweet". Also some of the stuff was just too much (Brontosaurus stampede, three T rex's and Jane surviving all the crazy situations)

 

[Kamandi]

THe most surprising thing to me was how they embraced the concept of Godzilla as a good guy.

It was something that never made much sense to me watching the Japanese films "Hey!, Thanks G for showing up and stepping on everything again!"

The first 2/3s of this movie feel like a post 9/11 event, and then the last 1/3 is like 'f-ck it, let's have fun'

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Yep.... Cloverfield was a better "Godzilla" film then Godzilla was.

How? What defines a Godzilla movie to you out of curiosity? Clover was a Blair-Witch style of film with a monster that was destroying things because it was scared and had parasites fall off of him and chase humans in the subway. Sounds more like 1998 Godzilla, which isn't a real Godzilla movie.

"Godzilla" had about as little screen time as the king of the monsters usually does in his films and had the large-scale monster battle that is a staple in the series. Just uninspired acting, and no silly dubbing. But there has never been a Godzilla film that has felt like "Cloverfield" did. The style it was shot in, the lack of background story, even the Seth Rogen-ish guy's banter made the film feel far less serious than any of the somber Godzilla films did.

 

[MaulFan]

Got the art of destruction book today, thanks for the recco Maul. Beautiful book.

Welcome, it's actually a good read too, I'm about 1/3 through so far. It's interesting to see some of the comic book style marketing images being based on the concept art like Godzilla atop Alcatraz, would have been cool if that made it in the movie.

 

[krec9]

Forgot predator didn't see him to damn near almost the end some people are to damn spoiled.

 

[JAWS]

How? What defines a Godzilla movie to you out of curiosity? Clover was a Blair-Witch style of film with a monster that was destroying things because it was scared and had parasites fall off of him and chase humans in the subway. Sounds more like 1998 Godzilla, which isn't a real Godzilla movie.

"Godzilla" had about as little screen time as the king of the monsters usually does in his films and had the large-scale monster battle that is a staple in the series. Just uninspired acting, and no silly dubbing. But there has never been a Godzilla film that has felt like "Cloverfield" did. The style it was shot in, the lack of background story, even the Seth Rogen-ish guy's banter made the film feel far less serious than any of the somber Godzilla films did.

I am talking about the tone of Cloverfield... Not the fact that it was handheld or whatnot...

Remember that great trailer we got for Godzilla??.... That feeling that the Apocalypse was upon us in the form of the King of the Monsters. Cloverfield felt more like that trailer. Watch the original Godzilla. The was consequences for him showing up... You saw the victims in the aftermath... Cloverfield had that same feeling of **** really hitting the fan.... And while I agree that he was a "scared" monster.. there was no way of knowing that except for the comments made by the director in the interviews and the Special features on the Blu ray. Watch Cloverfield again and tell me why it appears that the monster is just "afraid" That guy is tearing **** up and even eating people.... Hell he ate Hud... And that scene with the military attacking Cloverfield was pure updated Godzilla.

The Godzilla in the new film actually reminded me of the 98 Godzilla because they made him so nice and so animal like in his personality. He even ran/walked away from the military when they were bombing him. I said it before... He even got to share a face to face scene with the main actor... Godzilla in the 54 Godzilla and Cloverfield would have ripped the main actors to shreds.

And Hud was realistically funny.... It's not like he was telling Transformer style Jokes... The humor rose from the situation. The cast of Cloverfield was far better and more identifiable then the main actors in Godzilla (not counting Bryan C) IMO.

Having said all of this.... I still liked Godzilla... But I really feel that you could have taken Godzilla out of the film and put another monster in it and the film would have still had the same feel.... Put Godzilla in Cloverfield and you have a great Godzilla movie (granted we would need more monster action)

Those trailers for Godzilla were for the ultimate Godzilla film... We got nothing close to that.... Cloverfield was closer to those trailers IMO.

Now if you want to say which one felt more like Godzilla vs Megalon or Godzilla's revenge... Then I would pick this new Godzilla over Cloverfield.

But I feel bad dissing on the new Godzilla... I want to love it and I am hoping a repeat viewing with the expectations of more "Godzilla vs Gigan" then "Godzilla 54" will help me enjoy it more.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I am talking about the tone of Cloverfield... Not the fact that it was handheld or whatnot...

Remember that great trailer we got for Godzilla??.... That feeling that the Apocalypse was upon us in the form of the King of the Monsters. Cloverfield felt more like that trailer. Watch the original Godzilla. The was consequences for him showing up... You saw the victims in the aftermath... Cloverfield had that same feeling of **** really hitting the fan.... And while I agree that he was a "scared" monster.. there was no way of knowing that except for the comments made by the director in the interviews and the Special features on the Blu ray. Watch Cloverfield again and tell me why it appears that the monster is just "afraid" That guy is tearing **** up and even eating people.... Hell he ate Hud... And that scene with the military attacking Cloverfield was pure updated Godzilla.

The Godzilla in the new film actually reminded me of the 98 Godzilla because they made him so nice and so animal like in his personality. He even ran/walked away from the military when they were bombing him. I said it before... He even got to share a face to face scene with the main actor... Godzilla in the 54 Godzilla and Cloverfield would have ripped the main actors to shreds.

And Hud was realistically funny.... It's not like he was telling Transformer style Jokes... The humor rose from the situation. The cast of Cloverfield was far better and more identifiable then the main actors in Godzilla (not counting Bryan C) IMO.

Having said all of this.... I still liked Godzilla... But I really feel that you could have taken Godzilla out of the film and put another monster in it and the film would have still had the same feel.... Put Godzilla in Cloverfield and you have a great Godzilla movie (granted we would need more monster action)

Those trailers for Godzilla were for the ultimate Godzilla film... We got nothing close to that.... Cloverfield was closer to those trailers IMO.

Now if you want to say which one felt more like Godzilla vs Megalon or Godzilla's revenge... Then I would pick this new Godzilla over Cloverfield.

But I feel bad dissing on the new Godzilla... I want to love it and I am hoping a repeat viewing with the expectations of more "Godzilla vs Gigan" then "Godzilla 54" will help me enjoy it more.

Fair enough. I get your point. And part of me still feels a tad like that as well. I was one of the first to criticize this film in this thread. In fact, I've been skeptical of this film for almost a year now. But, l think a second viewing would be good for everybody now that we know not to expect Cranston to run the show and now that we aren't eagerly waiting in anticipation to finally see the monster action.

The trailers definitely did show us a different movie. But I had a red flag since it was confirmed that there would be another monster. Not just another monster, but that the finale would be a monster fight. But regardless, the trailers hinted at so much monster carnage and scenes of destruction and the monologue implying that Godzilla was the cause. Afterall, he was supposed to be mankind's giant threat. And they seemed so sure that they "got it right" this time, a slight towards 1998's sloppy film. So, did they?

When comparing it to "Gojira" or "Return of Godzilla", no. Not even to "Mothra vs. Godzilla". But I do think there is a lot in there that fans of the series, not just the original film, should appreciate. Like I said, to anybody who is used to the Toho films, Godzilla's screen time really isn't less (or much less) than before. Though, for an "origin" film I do think a bit more would have been better than not. It had a hint of the spirituality of some of the films (that's how I look at Serizawa's comments and Godzilla being called a god), the mother nature themes of several of the Hesei films, and benevolent (towards mankind at least) Godzilla that, unfortunately, is far friendlier than I would have liked. But, a good buddy of mine wrote about his thoughts regarding the Godzilla in this film, and quite simply, if there is a positive way of spinning it he sure found a way to do it. He said:

"Gareth Edwards told us he planned to be faithful to the Toho films.

This Godzilla is a variance on the Showa Era concept with the attitude of the Hesei in the mix, but adding in the actual purpose of Mosura not Mothra. So that Godzilla has become Nature's Protector of the Earth.

That does not mean he will be simpatico with humans all the time. It depends on how we handle the environment. Again that is Mosura being incorporated.

You are not imagining Godzilla's intelligence Jason. He co-operated with the American military when it suited his purpose, but dropped it when it didn't. He reasoned out who were his allies and where not. Along with knowing he could take that nap Russell and not worry about problems from the people of San Francisco and the Military. Both the Admiral and Godzilla left with mutual respect for each other."

Now, I don't know if Godzilla really deemed the military as an ally, but his intelligence was very much apparent. And he clearly is a creature who can respect certain individuals. I think he just utterly uninterested in the military or any of their machinery. I also wish he took some down like you do, but at least he wasn't acting like just an animal and wasn't fearful of those machines.

Serizawa reminded me of Dr. Yamane in the original. They both came across like they knew everything about the monster, but in all honesty, I think they are just trying to peace together things like how any of us would do so in real life. People rationalize seeing Jesus on their toast, so imagine how people would justify Godzilla's existence in real life. Dr. Yamane in '54 had a strong scientific stance for Godzilla's survival. Yet, does that mean that the natives on Odo Island were wrong about him attacking for centuries before any bombings occurred? Was Godzilla always a big scary monster who surfaced for 65,000 years even before an atomic bomb supposedly turned him into that? The whole picture has never been confirmed. In the new film, Serizawa seems to be going off of legends and urban myths as his starting point and combines it with scientific theories. As a Japanese man who obviously has a spiritual awareness of his place and role on this world, it makes perfect sense for him to view Godzilla and justify his appearance as he did. The guys in Cloverfield tried to do the same, but as is common among my generation of contemporary's, they assumed it had to be some government creation or cover up or an alien.

Like I said, it's not a perfect film, but I'm thankful the good outweighed the bad. I don't think the film is near a "mess" or anything like others have said but it wasn't as good as it should have been. Godzilla's relationship with the humans was, strange, but it was scenes with the Muto that sold me on him and for the first time ever, there was a huge monster on screen in an American-made film that I completely recognized as Godzilla.

 

[Biojex]

Got my art book, soundtrack and graphic novel today. The art book is fantastic. The soundtrack actually holds up on it's own. I'm enjoying it. The graphic novel…i don't really like it. It seems like some of the stuff in there was written before the film was finalized, so a lot of details are weird and don't match up with the movie. I wouldn't recommend it really. Plop yourself down in Barnes and Noble, read through it, then never touch it again.