Logan (New Wolverine movie March 3rd 2017)

[jye4ever]

Ha....I've known Jackman as Wolverine longer than two of our kids

That's crazy right

Saw the film, it's about as perfect as it could be, 10/10 from me. One question though, the post credits sequence from XMEN:APOC was supposed to be for Logan I thought. Didn't everyone say it was MR. Sinister? So did the post credit scene actually have anything to do with Logan?

Don't forget that the end credits of Apoc took place in the 80's, this movie took place in 2029.

Honestly I don't blame you, i'm so discombobulated with Fox's jumping timeline that I walked into Logan asking myself how the heck we went from Weapon X to decrepit Wolverine and Professor X in a years cinematic time not really comprehending that it's been 46 years between the 2 movies plus there's the different timelines to take into consideration and blah blah blah my head hurts already.

Just do yourself a favor and forget about it lol

 

[ironwez20]

I kept pretending shield wanted professor x for his mind that's why they were on the run .

Any way yea I was wondering what timeline this was but then I might lose my mind trying to figure it out. Fox messed up with that but damn did I still love this movie.

 

[YoNoSe]

The only thing I ****ing hate about fox having the rights is that we don't have any good quality xmen merchandise from the movies or anything. It's all ****ing iron man and ******* groot the stupid tree. Give me some top notch nightcrawler and sabertooth and beast figures.

But nope. O well guess we'll just have to live in that world

We'd likelt be living in an identical world no matter who had merch rights. HT has only been interested in Wolverine and two of the four were slow sellers. Young Chuck got the ol' Hot Toys deep six. And even lower end X-movie figures were Clearance Hall of Famers. People can and do "yeah, but..." til the cows come home but that's the world we lived in.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

As much as I like the film Logan, I wouldn't want a figure of Logan in a black suit with that raggedy beard...

Give me OG Logan from X Men. Still his best look.

 

[YoNoSe]

Yes, that one. So much that one.

 

[jye4ever]

While I want that X1 Gadot Logan I also wouldn't mind a dirty beat up limping Old Man Logan with bloody stuck claw hand, chest wound and dead cholo severed head.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Given the quality of the Logan film and Logan having his more traditional look at the end, that version could be a definitive movie Wolvie figure. I'd be happy with that one.

 

[YoNoSe]

1/6 Loganmobile w/ exclusive Teets Magee.

 

[jye4ever]

I can almost envision Ledger's Joker existing in Logan's world.

They should've added a news report of a clown having escaped a jail in Chicago, don't even name the jail lol.

 

[a-dev]

While I want that X1 Gadot Logan I also wouldn't mind a dirty beat up limping Old Man Logan with bloody stuck claw hand, chest wound and dead cholo severed head.

 

[ironwez20]

We'd likelt be living in an identical world no matter who had merch rights. HT has only been interested in Wolverine and two of the four were slow sellers. Young Chuck got the ol' Hot Toys deep six. And even lower end X-movie figures were Clearance Hall of Famers. People can and do "yeah, but..." til the cows come home but that's the world we lived in.

What other xmen figures were there? To my knowledge origins wolverine sold well and got bootlegs made. X3 wolverine didn't sell well cause it's x3, the wolverine was ok but not the best and everyone loved the dofp version.

No other xmen movie figures have been made for xmen since like x2.

 

[YoNoSe]

What other xmen figures were there? To my knowledge origins wolverine sold well and got bootlegs made. X3 wolverine didn't sell well cause it's x3, the wolverine was ok but not the best and everyone loved the dofp version.

No other xmen movie figures have been made for xmen since like x2.

HT Origins sold well.
HT DOFP sold well.

HT The Wolverine sat for a long time.
HT X3 Wolverine shat the bed.

Toy Biz X1 & X2 lingered in stores forever. X2 Iceman and Magneto got a little play on Ebay because they were tail-end.
Origins figures barely moved on Clearance.

Marvel Select Origins Wolverine sat on LCS shelves.

X3 toys within the Hasbro Legends line...I could find them for less than retail in LCSs up until a couple of years ago.

Like I said - people will say, "yeah but now ______ " but the fact is X-Movie toys are almost unanimously duds. If there wasn't this whole DisMarvel canspiracy/reality, it's most likely no one would be making a wide variety of movie characters.

If I was more into the movies I'd be buying the 3rd party X figures being made right now. I certainly wouldn't hold my breath on HT under any circumstances and you can't realistically blame them.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Logan made 85 Million killing the US Box Office.

I hate disney because they are killing any new content we might see in all forms of media publishing. Back in 1998 when they realized Mickey Mouse would go to the public domain, they quickly extended their copyrights for it until 2024 meaning they hord their content. For those who don't know the Public Domain means anyone can make copies of any characters since they are public. You won't see anymore expanded universe from SW or anymore usage of the MCU until disney deems it necessary. I am so glad Fox still have their rights and hopefully they change up the CBM genre along with DC years from now.

The MCU is creatively bankrupt. The odds of them taking any kind of risk at this point are slim to none. Feige found a formula he's happy with box-office-wise so he has no reason to suddenly reinvigorate the franchise artistically and make good movies again.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I've rewatched some x-men flix this weekend (introducing my stepbrother to the series) and it made me appreciate the series more after watching Logan.

Watched First Class, DoFP, Apocalypse (it's kind of a guilty pleasure I actually enjoyed the movie but quality wise definitely the weakest of the last three x-men films) and x-men 1. So many good characters in this series, I really am reevaluating what I think of the series altogether. Origins and X3 I can still do without though.

Still, and I don't think this is spoiler territory since the trailers hinted at it, but still crazy to imagine all the mutants we know who have successfully survived DoFP and Apocalypse being killed offscreen so unceremoniously. I can't fathom how Jean Grey/Pheonix could have not survived. It's just crazy. Seeing Kelsey Grammer cameo in DoFP as Beast, Cyclops back as well, seeing young and old Xavier/Magneto go through so much and endlessly seem to make amends, Mystiques evolution, and then we don't even know what happens to them.

I can't see anyone just taking Magneto out like that. He's too tough.

But, that's the pill I have to swallow. Lol


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[ironwez20]

HT Origins sold well.
HT DOFP sold well.

HT The Wolverine sat for a long time.
HT X3 Wolverine shat the bed.

Toy Biz X1 & X2 lingered in stores forever. X2 Iceman and Magneto got a little play on Ebay because they were tail-end.
Origins figures barely moved on Clearance.

Marvel Select Origins Wolverine sat on LCS shelves.

X3 toys within the Hasbro Legends line...I could find them for less than retail in LCSs up until a couple of years ago.

Like I said - people will say, "yeah but now ______ " but the fact is X-Movie toys are almost unanimously duds. If there wasn't this whole DisMarvel canspiracy/reality, it's most likely no one would be making a wide variety of movie characters.

If I was more into the movies I'd be buying the 3rd party X figures being made right now. I certainly wouldn't hold my breath on HT under any circumstances and you can't realistically blame them.

Xmen 1 and 2 figures didn't sell well cause all they made were wolverine and not much else. X2 suffered more. To many wolverines not enough figures people wanted

They x3 line was ****. They made like two or three xmen from the movie and this was after the movie released.

Origins only made like 3inch puny figures of two characters I think. Nobody likes 3 inch figures. Not even children. All other xmen movie figures they put no effort into them. They put no effort into the license so it didn't sell.

People bought the crap out that nightcrawler from x2 and many people to this day want better xmen merchandise, problem is that hasbro always sucked at marvel movie figures and hot toys won't do it and this license thing.

I bet if hot toys made x2 figures and some more dofp they would sell well but they are to busy sucking mickey's mouse **** lol.

Hell if they made a damn Logan and Laura they'd fly off the shelves.

 

[DiFabio]

Who here remembers the first X-Men movie merchandise by Toy Biz from 2000. That weird Logan vs Sabertooth with the rubber expressive action faces, the neat Statue of Liberty playset, the variations of Jean Grey that kept getting recalled because they showed too much bewb cleavage.


Good times.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Who here remembers the first X-Men movie merchandise by Toy Biz from 2000. That weird Logan vs Sabertooth with the rubber expressive action faces, the neat Statue of Liberty playset, the variations of Jean Grey that kept getting recalled because they showed too much bewb cleavage.


Good times.

I still have most of the X1 and X2 merchandise

Wolvie with the bike is cool....well, the bike is cool.

My favorite X2 figure are Magneto and Nightcrawler.

I still like Wolvie with the leather jacket and wolf.

I even have the variant X1 figures. Xavier is cool because the figure is actually handicapped. The legs don't work, so he can't stand.

 

[jye4ever]

I've rewatched some x-men flix this weekend (introducing my stepbrother to the series) and it made me appreciate the series more after watching Logan.

Watched First Class, DoFP, Apocalypse (it's kind of a guilty pleasure I actually enjoyed the movie but quality wise definitely the weakest of the last three x-men films) and x-men 1. So many good characters in this series, I really am reevaluating what I think of the series altogether. Origins and X3 I can still do without though.

Still, and I don't think this is spoiler territory since the trailers hinted at it, but still crazy to imagine all the mutants we know who have successfully survived DoFP and Apocalypse being killed offscreen so unceremoniously. I can't fathom how Jean Grey/Pheonix could have not survived. It's just crazy. Seeing Kelsey Grammer cameo in DoFP as Beast, Cyclops back as well, seeing young and old Xavier/Magneto go through so much and endlessly seem to make amends, Mystiques evolution, and then we don't even know what happens to them.

I can't see anyone just taking Magneto out like that. He's too tough.

But, that's the pill I have to swallow. Lol


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I'm still trying to wrap my head around it all.

Since this movie takes place in timeline B not too long after Wolverine wakes up at the end of DOFP seeing everyone back plus mutant kids but didn't they say in Logan that no new mutants have been born in 25 years.

Or am I thinking of the wrong timeline?

 

[YoNoSe]

Xmen 1 and 2 figures didn't sell well cause all they made were wolverine and not much else. Not true at all.


X2 suffered more. To many wolverines not enough figures people wanted They made Psyclops, Ice-Man, Magneto, Nightcrawler...only two of those "sold" because they were short packed at the end of the line.

They x3 line was ****. They made like two or three xmen from the movie and this was after the movie released. Non-wolverine characters, sold poorly.

Origins only made like 3inch puny figures of two characters I think. Nobody likes 3 inch figures. Historically super-wrong. Not even children. Especially historically super-wrong. All other xmen movie figures they put no effort into them. They put no effort into the license so it didn't sell. If you mean the first two - they made tons of figures and a huge variety of character - does not equal "no effort" in any universe.
If you mean DOFP, FC, Apoc, Logan - they didn't sell because they don't exist.

People bought the crap out that nightcrawler from x2 Got him on clearance, like everybody else. LCS has him in-stock right now for $15 and many people to this day want better xmen merchandise, problem is that hasbro always sucked at marvel movie figures and hot toys won't do it and this license thing.

I bet if hot toys made x2 figures and some more dofp they would sell well but they are to busy sucking mickey's mouse **** lol. I'm supposing you'd lose that bet based on real things that happened.

Hell if they made a damn Logan and Laura they'd fly off the shelves. I'd buy them. Fly off the shelves? Anybody's guess at this point.

BTW - I'm not saying it's right - I don't have much interest in Hot Toys figures anymore but I would buy an X2 Nightcrawler instantly. But your response was nothing but the "yeah, but..." I mentioned. You can rationalize all night - the stuff didn't sell well for the most part. Fans are constantly saying "everyone would buy it!" And then when pre-orders go up it's "eyelashes are wrong, toes look stupid." When pre-orders start charging it's "cancelled because cat died, etc."

We are not a reliable group of people and businesses have figured it out. Stuff that sells gets more stuff.

 

[YoNoSe]

Who here remembers the first X-Men movie merchandise by Toy Biz from 2000. That weird Logan vs Sabertooth with the rubber expressive action faces, the neat Statue of Liberty playset, the variations of Jean Grey that kept getting recalled because they showed too much bewb cleavage.


Good times.

Memba Kay-Bee toys?