Logan (New Wolverine movie March 3rd 2017)

[a-dev]

And you went to all that trouble with the photoshop

 

[jye4ever]

I kinda wish that family didn't get massacred. It was really cruel.

Nah, they should've added a baby in a crib getting stabbed threw his head and the mother should've been pregnant too....with twins....and they've should've shown her sonogram while at dinner celebrating their happiness right before the massacre.

They got the R rating, exercise that bad boy lol.

Suited the tone oof the current world both Logan and we the audience are in though. Plus it sold their killer as pure evil instantly.

I agree, just today I went to 711 and I witnessed a 12 year old girl stabbing the clerk right thru his head with her adamantium claws, sheesh I need to move.

 

[Ash Housewares]

My favourite part was the little black fat kid running through the forest. That little guy was going HAM. Speaks volumes about my opinion of the film when that was the best part.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Nah, they should've added a baby in a crib getting stabbed threw his head and the mother should've been pregnant too....with twins....and they've should've shown her sonogram while at dinner celebrating their happiness right before the massacre.

They got the R rating, exercise that bad boy lol.

YES!YES!YES!!

 

[YoNoSe]

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Ohhhhh....a cowl!

My bad I read that too quick.

Lactose intolerance is the first sign that your healing factor ain't what it used to be.

 

[Khev]

Nice to see so many people falling in love with a genre film. This film didn't connect with me like it did most here but I definitely know the feeling of having a highly anticipated film deliver on all levels.

I liked Logan but didn't love it. Thought it was good but not great.

We've seen sequels change genres from previous entries, most notably with ALIENS, and while Logan worked very well as a Western/road movie it just didn't feel very connected to the Singer films at all to me. Not just from a genre standpoint but the characters themselves. It seemed like it tried so hard to be Oscar worthy and transcendent that it totally abandoned any link to where they came from which is fine if you just want to make an Oscar worthy film but then when it tried tug at my heartstrings by acting like this 17 year journey was coming to an end for these characters it just didn't ring true.

IMO this movie came two films too late because I had a lot more feels at the end of DOFP when Logan was walking through the mansion than I did for any moment in Logan. The only thing that really could have brought the feels would have been if he donned the costume. And all they had to do was either give it to X-24 or have him wear it to humor Laura. Come on, they already set up that she was a comic geek and ALL parents do childish things to appease their kids. They could have easily had him do it for her sake. Imagine him on that log, her holding his hand while he's bleeding out of the costume, and then the movie ignores his outfit and plays their final scene only in close-up. They really could have made everyone almost everyone in the audience happy without sacrificing the "gritty realism."

I thought Professor X's f-bombs were forced and out of place. The gore worked because it's what you always assumed was happening off screen in the other X-movies. But Xavier cursing like a sailor? I don't know, it was pretty jarring. As referenced earlier Cameron changed the genre from "haunted house" in ALIEN to "war movie" with ALIENS but Ripley still felt like and acted like Ripley. This Professor X didn't feel like the guy I saw in prior films.

I also think that showing characters watching Shane and then having them go visit a family who won't give up their homestead to violent agriculture tycoons was way too "on the nose." Talk about spoon feeding that particular angle.

The kids in the mountains reminded me of the Lost Boys from Hook. Especially when they were running through the forest I half expected the chubby black kid to roll up in a ball like the one did in Hook and start rolling over bad guys for comedic effect.

And then there was the guy with the bionic arm and sunglasses. I actually thought he was fantastic but

Spoiler

his death was very silly and "Singer-esque." Death by grass? After all the creative gore that was served up for his minions? So anti-climactic.

Those are the main reasons the film didn't connect with me the way I was really hoping it would which is too bad because it was my most anticipated cbm of the year.

Things I liked/loved about the movie:

Jackman, duh. He owns the roll and it was nice to see his send off be such a showcase of his talents.

Laura. Along with Jackman she made the movie. She was perfect.

Sunglasses guy. I'm shocked at how effective he was in the role.

Cinematography. Blows away all other cbm's other than the Nolan films.

Violence. Gruesome and shocking without ever delving into torture porn. Very effective.

Overall a good film but not without a fair amount of missed opportunities. A well done Western that unfortunately didn't wrap up the X-universe as effectively as DOFP.

 

[filip629]

The only issue with the clone, is that it made it really obvious how they were going to stop him.

The whole time I was just waiting for Logan or Laura to use the ademantium bullet.

I think it's funny that a direct shot to the forehead with an adamantium bullet gave Logan nothing more than memory issues in Origins. It never even penetrated his skull. That was handled perfectly because nothing is supposed to break or penetrate adamantium after it's cooled and hardened...not even another piece of adamantium. What happened to X-24 should never have been able to happen if he had an adamantium laced skeleton. That said, it's not like continuity is a strong suit of the X-Movies.

I found this to be a solid movie and easily the best of the solo Wolvie movies (I know that's not saying much). Is it as great as they hype would have you believe? Not IMO. This was a very predictable movie. There really wasn't any surprises in the movie. I enjoyed the chemistry between Charles, Logan, and X-23. I also loved they way they ramped up the fight scenes and showed all the damage that can be done by an individual(s) with adamantium claws. I gave this movie a 7.5 out of 10. It was good and worth seeing but I'm still waiting for a Wolverine movie where I can say...they nailed it!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

*review*

You didn't think the ademantium bullet was really predictable when X23 asked Logan about it?

 

[pturtle]

Nice to see so many people falling in love with a genre film. This film didn't connect with me like it did most here but I definitely know the feeling of having a highly anticipated film deliver on all levels.

I liked Logan but didn't love it. Thought it was good but not great.

We've seen sequels change genres from previous entries, most notably with ALIENS, and while Logan worked very well as a Western/road movie it just didn't feel very connected to the Singer films at all to me. Not just from a genre standpoint but the characters themselves. It seemed like it tried so hard to be Oscar worthy and transcendent that it totally abandoned any link to where they came from which is fine if you just want to make an Oscar worthy film but then when it tried tug at my heartstrings by acting like this 17 year journey was coming to an end for these characters it just didn't ring true.

IMO this movie came two films too late because I had a lot more feels at the end of DOFP when Logan was walking through the mansion than I did for any moment in Logan. The only thing that really could have brought the feels would have been if he donned the costume. And all they had to do was either give it to X-24 or have him wear it to humor Laura. Come on, they already set up that she was a comic geek and ALL parents do childish things to appease their kids. They could have easily had him do it for her sake. Imagine him on that log, her holding his hand while he's bleeding out of the costume, and then the movie ignores his outfit and plays their final scene only in close-up. They really could have made everyone almost everyone in the audience happy without sacrificing the "gritty realism."

I thought Professor X's f-bombs were forced and out of place. The gore worked because it's what you always assumed was happening off screen in the other X-movies. But Xavier cursing like a sailor? I don't know, it was pretty jarring. As referenced earlier Cameron changed the genre from "haunted house" in ALIEN to "war movie" with ALIENS but Ripley still felt like and acted like Ripley. This Professor X didn't feel like the guy I saw in prior films.

I also think that showing characters watching Shane and then having them go visit a family who won't give up their homestead to violent agriculture tycoons was way too "on the nose." Talk about spoon feeding that particular angle.

The kids in the mountains reminded me of the Lost Boys from Hook. Especially when they were running through the forest I half expected the chubby black kid to roll up in a ball like the one did in Hook and start rolling over bad guys for comedic effect.

And then there was the guy with the bionic arm and sunglasses. I actually thought he was fantastic but

Spoiler

his death was very silly and "Singer-esque." Death by grass? After all the creative gore that was served up for his minions? So anti-climactic.

Those are the main reasons the film didn't connect with me the way I was really hoping it would which is too bad because it was my most anticipated cbm of the year.

Things I liked/loved about the movie:

Jackman, duh. He owns the roll and it was nice to see his send off be such a showcase of his talents.

Laura. Along with Jackman she made the movie. She was perfect.

Sunglasses guy. I'm shocked at how effective he was in the role.

Cinematography. Blows away all other cbm's other than the Nolan films.

Violence. Gruesome and shocking without ever delving into torture porn. Very effective.

Overall a good film but not without a fair amount of missed opportunities. A well done Western that unfortunately didn't wrap up the X-universe as effectively as DOFP.

For the most part this is how I felt when I first watched it, it seemed to be trying hard and felt way too disconnected to the original films that it was hard for me to really connect with these characters.

Watching it a second time that all changed though, the movie flowed much better for me, I noticed certain things I didn't notice before and I appreciated how disconnected it felt to the Singer films, and I loved how it just ends. It doesn't make my top 3 FoX-Men films yet but I can see it climbing up in my ranks with more viewings.

 

[Uncle Bingo]

I had a lot more feels at the end of DOFP when Logan was walking through the mansion than I did for any moment in Logan.

 

[a-dev]

I thought Professor X's f-bombs were forced and out of place. The gore worked because it's what you always assumed was happening off screen in the other X-movies. But Xavier cursing like a sailor? I don't know, it was pretty jarring. As referenced earlier Cameron changed the genre from "haunted house" in ALIEN to "war movie" with ALIENS but Ripley still felt like and acted like Ripley. This Professor X didn't feel like the guy I saw in prior films.

I saw him as closer to Mcavoy's DOFP Xavier when Logan first finds him in that film. Considering what has happened I don't think it's surprising that he would revert to that (and worse). He has gotten very very old; he is grief-ridden, guilt-ridden and frustrated by his condition and his only company now is Logan, who curses with abandon. So Xavier no longer needs or cares to present any kind of civility.

 

[jye4ever]

For the most part this is how I felt when I first watched it, it seemed to be trying hard and felt way too disconnected to the original films that it was hard for me to really connect with these characters.

Watching it a second time that all changed though, the movie flowed much better for me, I noticed certain things I didn't notice before and I appreciated how disconnected it felt to the Singer films, and I loved how it just ends. It doesn't make my top 3 FoX-Men films yet but I can see it climbing up in my ranks with more viewings.

I saw him as closer to Mcavoy's DOFP Xavier when Logan first finds him in that film. Considering what has happened I don't think it's surprising that he would revert to that (and worse). He has gotten very very old; he is grief-ridden, guilt-ridden and frustrated by his condition and his only company now is Logan, who curses with abandon. So Xavier no longer needs or cares to present any kind of civility.

Insert a Kirk or 89 Joker approval knod gif here.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

 

[Khev]

I saw him as closer to Mcavoy's DOFP Xavier when Logan first finds him in that film. Considering what has happened I don't think it's surprising that he would revert to that (and worse). He has gotten very very old; he is grief-ridden, guilt-ridden and frustrated by his condition and his only company now is Logan, who curses with abandon. So Xavier no longer needs or cares to present any kind of civility.

Intellectually your argument works, even without needing to link him to McAvoy. Dementia/Alzheimer's could indeed change a man as drastically as what we saw with Charles. But the movie was already so severed from what came before I personally found Xavier's condition to be just one more disconnect that made it hard for me to "feel" like this was a bookend to what was started so long ago. To keep the ALIENS comparisons going this Professor X felt more like "Ripley 8" to me. A technical extension of the person we saw before but also not.

Just to counterbalance some more of my criticisms two other moments that blew me away:

1. Laura's first talking scene. Totally caught me off guard that she spoke, and then it caught me off guard all over again that not only did she speak but that she spoke Spanish. It makes perfect sense of course but it was just one of those "whoa!" moments. And Jackman and Keen's acting was just perfect in that moment.

2.

Spoiler

Xavier being stabbed by X-24. I didn't know WHAT the fauk was going on. I totally thought that Xavier was remembering the aftermath of "Westchester" when a younger Logan had to put him down to stop the damage Charles was doing. When it hit me that what I was seeing was real and in real time and that X-24 *wasn't* Logan I was blown away and reeling for the entire remainder of the farm sequence. I can't remember the last time I was so caught off guard while watching a movie.

 

[jye4ever]

For me Logan is having the same impact as TWS/CW had on TFA.

Logan has improved/enhanced The Wolverine for me.

 

[Khev]

You didn't think the ademantium bullet was really predictable when X23 asked Logan about it?

Oh it was absolutely telegraphed. But considering the other genuine twists and turns that occurred in the film I was okay with it. And I liked the idea of the adamantium bullet

Spoiler

being extra lethal to X-24 since he didn't have a "true" healing factor like young Logan on account of being manufactured in a lab. His healing factor was artificial hence the need for the special juice.

 

[Khev]

For me Logan is having the same impact as TWS/CW had on TFA.

Logan has improved/enhanced The Wolverine for me.

Have you watched The Wolverine recently? I'll have to give it a spin to see how it "plays" after Logan.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Spoiler

being extra lethal to X-24 since he didn't have a "true" healing factor like young Logan on account of being manufactured in a lab. His healing factor was artificial hence the need for the special juice.

Oh, I didn't know that. I guess I missed it.

 

[Uncle Bingo]

I thought The Wolverine was a much better film than Logan.