Logan (New Wolverine movie March 3rd 2017)

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Was he doing a Wolverine impression by sniffing so much?:lol
 
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I don't know if I'd call X2 fans "kiddies." Connoisseurs of subpar action maybe, but not kiddies. My kids certainly aren't into that silliness.

Nothing subpar or silly about this.

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Nor with the ten people he killed afterwards in a matter of minutes.
 

:lol :lol :lol

I got a really good feeling about the scene with Logan, Xavier and the girl at the dinner table. Looks like we might be in for a genuinely good drama. We'll see.

What little action they showed looked like same old same old and was nothing to write home about though.

Agree with everything you said here. That scene stood out to me as well, but I hated hat shot of Logan jumping to stab that guy.


You just described X2, First Class, and DOFP. :lol

X2 > life

Not excited, need to see more. Didn't know Charles shaved his head.

:lol :lol :lol

Wow, Fox doesn't give a damn about continuity, but it's little things like that I don't care about. It is funny though.


First Class had some great dramatic moments and the SR-71 scenes were pretty thrilling.

DOFP's future sequences were great. X2 was meh both dramatically and with regard to action.

X2 had the best action from the FoX-Men films by far. They're not just not you're usual kind of action. Nightcrawler opening, mansion assault, Magneto prison escape were all very well thought out and unique action scenes.

Hell it was silly back in 1995's "Wolf" which is why I could never get behind his jumping around during the bloodless mansion assault in the vastly overrated X2. Hopefully those moments will be few and far between because I really do like the overall vibe of the rest of the trailer.

Wolverine jumps in that scene one time :lol

The rest of that scene is just him silently taking down soldiers or running around slaughtering them.

I don't know if I'd call X2 fans "kiddies." Connoisseurs of subpar action maybe, but not kiddies. My kids certainly aren't into that silliness.

Winter Soldier and Spider-Man 2 are the only movies that are on par with X2's action out of the marvel movies.
 
Jackman and the Iceman kid do a good job of "selling" the action but overall it still comes across pretty sanitized. Same with his other kills IMO. Again, compare that to the Thomas Jane Punisher kills and it's night and day.

I love the '04 Punisher. I still think Jane's fight with Kevin Nash is the best CBM fight put to film thus far.

But The Punisher (2004) was rated 'R'. X2 wasn’t.
 
...I liked the trailer. The lounging shot sucked but... twas a good trailer. Logan & RDR2 Trailers on the same day.

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I love the '04 Punisher. I still think Jane's fight with Kevin Nash is the best CBM fight put to film thus far.

But The Punisher (2004) was rated 'R'. X2 wasn’t.

Sure so of course X2 could never give us something like the paper trimmer blade through the forehead but other "non-R" violence from Punisher (like Jane being literally thrown through one wall before smacking an adjacent one midair) was almost equally brutal and could have ended up in an X-Men/Wolverine movie. If you can't do R-rated violence then you need to up the ante dramatically with either the choreography (Russo Cap) or cinematography (Bourne/Taken movies) or both choreography AND cinematography (Matrix movies) to convey that you're watching a master combatant at work. Now I'm not a huge fan of Bourne-style editing but that's at least an example of directors working around the limitations of an MPAA rating without making it obvious.
 
Yeah, he should keep them in the whole movie and use guns instead.


There's a 99.9% chance you're not going to like this movie.

I see you bashing everything that comes from it.

Nah....more like 50%.

But at least I agree with you on future Wolverine costume, it was bad ass looking and made for a great collectible, it was a decent enough representation of the comic costume sans mask of course. Even his blades looked great!

So it was a damn shame it was wasted with him sleeping in all those scenes!

Great costume now go to sleep with it lol
 
Sure so of course X2 could never give us something like the paper trimmer blade through the forehead but other "non-R" violence from Punisher (like Jane being literally thrown through one wall before smacking an adjacent one midair) was almost equally brutal and could have ended up in an X-Men/Wolverine movie. If you can't do R-rated violence then you need to up the ante dramatically with either the choreography (Russo Cap) or cinematography (Bourne/Taken movies) or both choreography AND cinematography (Matrix movies) to convey that you're watching a master combatant at work. Now I'm not a huge fan of Bourne-style editing but that's at least an example of directors working around the limitations of an MPAA rating without making it obvious.

Ummmm

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Nah....more like 50%.

But at least I agree with you on future Wolverine costume, it was bad ass looking and made for a great collectible, it was a decent enough representation of the comic costume sans mask of course. Even his blades looked great!

So it was a damn shame it was wasted with him sleeping in all those scenes!

Great costume now go to sleep with it lol

I really like his Wolverine hair in DOFP.

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Hopefully, the MCU will give us the true Wolverine hair too.

Now that's comic accurate!

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That looks fantastic, and I can't wait. I do agree to a degree with the lunging. I wish all the action scenes weren't constantly facilitating the claws. I mean, relying on them. You know what I'd like to see, Wolverine on top of a guy, pummeling him, his adamantium knuckles cracking against his skull, and Logan, enraged, not stopping, accidentally popping his claws right through the guy's face as he throws his next punch. That's the one thing I always liked about X-Men 1 was the cage fight. It showed that Logan could actually dish out a beating, as opposed to just going all Jack the Ripper on everybody's *****.
 
This is the last Hughverine's screen appearance so we all gonna see it.
Even if the film itself is another pile of silly mediocrity.
 
Sure so of course X2 could never give us something like the paper trimmer blade through the forehead but other "non-R" violence from Punisher (like Jane being literally thrown through one wall before smacking an adjacent one midair) was almost equally brutal and could have ended up in an X-Men/Wolverine movie. If you can't do R-rated violence then you need to up the ante dramatically with either the choreography (Russo Cap) or cinematography (Bourne/Taken movies) or both choreography AND cinematography (Matrix movies) to convey that you're watching a master combatant at work. Now I'm not a huge fan of Bourne-style editing but that's at least an example of directors working around the limitations of an MPAA rating without making it obvious.

Wolverine's rampage in the mansion actually resulted in a battle between the MPAA and Singer. In the end Singer had to cut a few kills.

I love the action in TWS, but its not at all the same. Cap knocks people out. Wolvie kills people.

What makes that X2 sequence fantastic for me is that it perfectly captures Wolverine's berserker rage. I remember people cheering opening night back in '03 after every kill.
 
one thing I always liked about X-Men 1 was the cage fight. It showed that Logan could actually dish out a beating, as opposed to just going all Jack the Bloodless Stabber on everybody's *****.

Fixed. ;) And I agree about the X1 cage fight. Some of the best Wolverine action ever put to film and it didn't involve his claws.
 
That looks fantastic, and I can't wait. I do agree to a degree with the lunging. I wish all the action scenes weren't constantly facilitating the claws. I mean, relying on them. You know what I'd like to see, Wolverine on top of a guy, pummeling him, his adamantium knuckles cracking against his skull, and Logan, enraged, not stopping, accidentally popping his claws right through the guy's face as he throws his next punch. That's the one thing I always liked about X-Men 1 was the cage fight. It showed that Logan could actually dish out a beating, as opposed to just going all Jack the Ripper on everybody's *****.

Too bad he didn't learn any martial arts while he was in Japan like in the cartoons.
 
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