LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[Kuzeh]

So Esau basically pulled a Heroes S4 a la Sylar on us?....

 

[Entropy]

*shudders at any Lost/Heroes comparison*

 

[Moonloop]

where was christian shepherd's body when jack found his casket?

they've been implying for 5 years that his body was resurrected or possessed.

Yeah! Christian and Yemi's bodies both disappeared. Christian's was not in his casket and when Eko went back to the plane in Season 3 to find Yemi....his body was gone (not even signs of its burnt remains).

This tells me that because they have John Locke's body that something is different.....that John's dead body is different than Christian & Yemi; maybe there is another purpose for his dead body. I don't know, but something is different.

 

[Agent0028]

Maybe it's like Obi-Wan and Yoda in the OT and Qui-Gon in the PT. *watches Entropy shudder again*

 

[lcummins]

Yeah! Christian and Yemi's bodies both disappeared. Christian's was not in his casket and when Eko went back to the plane in Season 3 to find Yemi....his body was gone (not even signs of its burnt remains).

This tells me that because they have John Locke's body that something is different.....that John's dead body is different than Christian & Yemi; maybe there is another purpose for his dead body. I don't know, but something is different.

Didn't Eko rummage around on Yemi's body to get the medallion?

And didn't we see Christian's casket fall or something?

 

[Entropy]

Yeah! Christian and Yemi's bodies both disappeared. Christian's was not in his casket and when Eko went back to the plane in Season 3 to find Yemi....his body was gone (not even signs of its burnt remains).

This tells me that because they have John Locke's body that something is different.....that John's dead body is different than Christian & Yemi; maybe there is another purpose for his dead body. I don't know, but something is different.

Or Esau was better at hiding those bodies?

Maybe it's like Obi-Wan and Yoda in the OT and Qui-Gon in the PT. *watches Entropy shudder again*

No big shudder there. There does seem to be a similar "I can't take direct action to kill you" rule between Ben and Widmore as there is with Jacob and Esau. Doubt that's any sort of Master/apprentice relationship, tho.

Didn't Eko rummage around on Yemi's body to get the medallion?

And didn't we see Christian's casket fall or something?

Eko finds his body once, goes back for it after he sees Yemi and it's mysteriously gone. Yemi has been confirmed as smokey.

 

[Moonloop]

Didn't Eko rummage around on Yemi's body to get the medallion?

And didn't we see Christian's casket fall or something?

Well let me rephrase my statement.

We saw Christian's Casket, but there was no Christian. And around the same time, that is when Christian started appearing on the Island to Jack.

Eko did see Yemi's body in Season 2 (a few times), but in his episode where he dies in Season 3 when he goes to look for Yemi's body again shortly after Yemi appearing to him on the beach....his body is then gone.

What I am saying is that, it seems that once Smokey(or whomever) appears as a dead person to someone, that the dead body of that person disappears. Examples are Christian and Yemi.

But Locke's body did not disappear, meaning that something different has happened than what has with Yemi and Christian.

Or Esau was better at hiding those bodies?

That could be one explanation.

 

[Entropy]

A difference is that Esau is free from the Cabin (I'm convinced Claire is responsible for this) when he assumes Locke's identity.

So smokey is Yemi and Christian (among others) and Esau is Locke. Assuming smokey and Esau are not somehow one and the same.

 

[Agent0028]

No big shudder there. There does seem to be a similar "I can't take direct action to kill you" rule between Ben and Widmore as there is with Jacob and Esau. Doubt that's any sort of Master/apprentice relationship, tho.

Well, actually I was referring to how Yoda and Obi fade away upon death but Qui-Gon didn't.

 

[Entropy]

Ah, gotcha. Perhaps that is shudder worthy.

 

[Andy Bergholtz]

I think it is safe to say that all those begging for answers regarding the statue with the four toes are satisfied now ....

I just finished watching the finale, and I must have totally missed this. I didn't catch any reference or explanation for the 4 toes, what did I miss?

 

[Memnoch]

I just finished watching the finale, and I must have totally missed this. I didn't catch any reference or explanation for the 4 toes, what did I miss?

The giant foot is a remnant of the statue of Taweret, the Egyptian Goddess of Pregnancy and where Jacob lived.

 

[SwedishHeat]

I just finished watching the finale, and I must have totally missed this. I didn't catch any reference or explanation for the 4 toes, what did I miss?

I think it was just that it was the bottom of that giant Egyptian statue, or just to signify it's Jacob's home. We still don't know why it was there, or what significance it has. People have said it's Tawaret, and explained it's significance in Egyptian culture, but we don't know it's significance to the show. I think it was one of those things where they put it in to show that people have been on the island for a reeeeeeally long time.

 

[barryo]

The giant foot is a remnant of the statue of Taweret, the Egyptian Goddess of Pregnancy and where Jacob lived.

i looked up Taweret and found this....

When paired with another deity, she became the demon-wife of Apep, the original god of evil. Since Apep was viewed as residing below the horizon, and only present at night, evil during the day then was envisaged as being a result of Taweret's maleficence.

soooo..............is there an evil female presence when it's daylight & who might it be???......juliette?? ben had a fixation on her but she would never have that.............kate???.........prob not............OMG.........better not be penny !!!!!!.........maybe im off on this whole line of thinking.
unless it that damn eloise hawkins...

 

[Andy Bergholtz]

Ah, sooo.... The statue's presence (or it's missing toe) was not really explained at all, in fact. Good to know. Oh well, glad I didn't miss anything!

 

[Agent0028]

Eh, I think that may be going in a little too deep Barryo.

Ah, sooo.... The statue's presence (or it's missing toe) was not really explained at all, in fact. Good to know. Oh well, glad I didn't miss anything!

Tarawet is depicted as having four toes.

 

[Andy Bergholtz]

Eh, I think that may be going in a little too deep Barryo.



Tarawet is depicted as having four toes.

Ahah! Ok, well that does help a little. Thanks!

 

[Agent0028]

You're welcome. I wonder if they'll explain the statue any next season. It makes sense to us because we've researched and explored to solve some of these things on our own. (Great find whoever found the Tawaret statue! I think it was Tom) But if I didn't visit this board I know when I saw the statue it would make no sense whatsoever why it has four toes and looks like a hippo.

 

[barryo]

Eh, I think that may be going in a little too deep Barryo.

thanks for stopping me when you did. i almost dug deep enough to unlock the powers of invisibility............& honestly....i would have just wasted that power for evil..

 

[Moonloop]

I think they are done with the statue. As far as I am concerned, we know enough about the statue and there isn't much more the statue can add to the story. It started out as a very mysterious concept early in the show and now we know what it is.

The only possible importance the statue could have to the rest of the show is to do with the child birth issues on the island, but I'm not sure if we'll get the full gist of that.