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I thought it was a decent episode and it continues the theme of the new reality 815ers still being connected. I'd imagine we'll follow the pattern with the other NR 815ers with "What Jack Did", "What Sawyer Did", etc.

And we did get a lot of new info - about Claire, that some people can be "claimed" by the MiB/smoke monster and that Kate is still in love with Sawyer, but he's over her.

I think they can be claimed AFTER death... Remember, the last time we saw the real Claire it was followed with the explosion where it was believed she died (Myles asking if she wants him to hold the baby and his continued looking at her sideways to when she leaves Aaron).

All in all a blah episode... I'm getting tired of Kate's running act as well.
 
Claire is the new Rousseau?? Did Rousseau mess around in the Others' fountain, and that led to her going crazy??

It was Rousseau's crew getting infected, attacking her, her baby been stolen and her living alone for 16 years that prolly made her a little nutty, 'natch.

Jack has moved on...

moved on where exactly? he's still totally into Kate, even after all they've been through.

I liked the ep, though it was a bridging ep. And those irritated by Kate have nothing to worry about - the show's almost over and of course we were going to get a Kate centric ep in the last season. :duh :lol

Good to see the infection story being tied into the BIG story. I wonder how the vaccine fits in?
 
Well, that was probably the last Kate-centric episode ever, so it had that going for it. But I'm not finding myself totally interested in the flash-sideways narrative at this point. The flashforwards and time travel in the past two seasons meant that every minute of each episode was devoted to advancing the actual plot of the show. These new flashes seem indulgent/irrelevant/inconsequential in a way that we haven't seen since season three. (There are much more important things I'd rather see in the final season than an entire scene with Kate removing her cuffs in a chop shop.) OK, there seem to be certain fleeting memories or a subconscious awareness present somewhere within some of the characters, but that's not enough to make up for the total disconnect between the alternative/parallel/new reality and the past five years of plot and character development. At least not enough to get me really mentally/emotionally stimulated and invested.

Back on the island--it was nice to see Claire back, and I am looking forward to next week's show. It will be very interesting to see her behavior and what that implies for Sayid's future mental state.

Not a great episode at all, I really thought Kate's answer as to why she returned to the island with Jack was thin writing. Where did this overwhelming urge to reunite Claire and Aaron come from? :dunno I is a virtuous decision sure, but this is the first I remember hearing it mentioned.

This came from the episode last season where Kate gave Aaron to Claire's mom and promised her that she was going to go back to the island and rescue her daughter.

I like that Kate has a purpose this season beyond inclusion in a love triangle.
 
I also like that Kate is concerned with something other than what guy she's going to end up with.

Part of the issue, Tom, may be that we don't know what the flashsideways are exactly, whereas back and forward was easy to understand. And we've only really seen the Kate/Claire stuff, meh, and the brief Jack/Locke scene from last ep, which I found very engaging and compelling.

But yeah, there was indeed some filler scenes in this ep.
 
I did like the Jack/Locke scene. And I would enjoy seeing Jack fix Locke's legs, if they build up to that in the flashes.

So far, Jack and Kate have both conspicuously looked at themselves in a mirror in their flashes. I am guessing that the flashes will continue to present "mirror" versions of previous events and scenes from the first season or two--showing us that fate/destiny is still bringing them together. Even off the island, Kate and Ethan were destined to be involved in Claire's pregnancy, etc.

I'm sure that I will enjoy the flashes more after rewatching them with the perspective provided by the end of the series. Juliet's experience has me thinking that the alternate reality might be what awaits the characters upon their death on the island--if they go with some sort of "reincarnation" idea.

I know that the producers have said that there is a connection between the two realities, and that we will just need to be patient for it to all come together. But I don't like being patient.
 
Well, that was probably the last Kate-centric episode ever, so it had that going for it. But I'm not finding myself totally interested in the flash-sideways narrative at this point. The flashforwards and time travel in the past two seasons meant that every minute of each episode was devoted to advancing the actual plot of the show. These new flashes seem indulgent/irrelevant/inconsequential in a way that we haven't seen since season three. (There are much more important things I'd rather see in the final season than an entire scene with Kate removing her cuffs in a chop shop.) OK, there seem to be certain fleeting memories or a subconscious awareness present somewhere within some of the characters, but that's not enough to make up for the total disconnect between the alternative/parallel/new reality and the past five years of plot and character development. At least not enough to get me really mentally/emotionally stimulated and invested.

These Flash Sideways storylines will NOT end up having been irrelevant/inconsequential. I just feel that we are feeling that a little bit because we do not yet understand what it is exactly that we are watching. I am getting the feeling that this whole season is going to be one big "Through The Looking Glass"... and that is a VERY good thing. Remember the first time you saw that ep? I know personally, while I was riveted with the on-island story of will they/won't they is that a good thing/bad thing climax in regard to the survivors rescue, I was left confused and subsequently disinterested with Jack's "Flashback". Who is this guy? Suicidal? Drunk? We've seen too much of his story for this to fit in ANYWHERE and make sense in regards to who Jack was pre flight. Sure there were moments that stood out, Fox's peformance was great pretty across the ep and there were obviously very important questions being asked "Who is in the coffin, and why does Jack care so much?". "Who is Jack calling?" etc etc, but again, feeling as though they were squeezing in a whole new chapter in Jacks life, it just didn't resonate. That is until the final three minutes of the show in what is, in my opinion the single greatest moment of LOSTs entire run. The moment we realize we haven't been watching a Flashback, but a Flashforward. The moment those tidbits of intriuge became full blown WTF moments thru hindsight and the questions became HUGE as oppossed to simply being noted. That is what this season is. ITs all going to come into focus. D&C have been very vocal about viewers not disregarding the Sideways storyline and stressing that it IS very relevant and plays a huge role. Obviously they're not idiots... their game long plan was not to get us to the end then simply give us a "What If..." scenario. Come on, have some faith folks.

Now, I'm not jumping up and down in defense of the episode, as it was (as sadly, a lot of Kate centric eps are) lacking in many areas. It did have the sense of being a bridging/filler episode, but there were plenty of good/great bits to make it an OK ep. The Claire stuff, the implications of the infected/claimed scenario, Josh Holloway's performance, Sayid's state, Ethan GOODSPEED.

Also, to LOTRFAN, if last night was the first time you'd heard Kate say that reuniting Claire and Aaron was her motivation for coming back to the Island, then that's just bad watching on your part. Not only has it been specifically said in dialogue on numerous occasions, but the need for Claire and Aaron to be reunited (and Kate's undestanding of this) has been shown to us in varying degress of directness countless times. In fact, the claim that Claire and Aaron need to be together goes all the way back to the beginning of the series.
 
I was doing my homework and found that on the plane, Desmond was reading Salman Rushdie's Haroun And The Sea of Stories, featuring the quote, ''What's the use of stories that aren't even true?''

So the producers feel my pain.

And I do trust that they know what they're doing--I'm not trying to argue that the flashes really are useless, because they have assured me that they aren't and I believe that. They just feel that way because of the lack of context. I'm just not enjoying them as much as the storytelling format of the last two seasons. But that will likely all change in hindsight if they really do have something up their sleeves that makes this an entire season-long "first flashforward" experience.
 
I was doing my homework and found that on the plane, Desmond was reading Salman Rushdie's Haroun And The Sea of Stories, featuring the quote, ''What's the use of stories that aren't even true?''QUOTE]

Agreed. Loved that reference, and loved EWs mention of it in this weeks recap:

" The Sideways-Island relationship is a metaphor for our relationship to fiction. It's about how fantasy redeems reality. Like last week's literary reference Haroun and the Sea of Stories, Lost is telling us a story about the redemptive value of storytelling itself. Haroun asks, What's the use of stories that aren't even true? Lost answers, They teach us how to make the real world a better place."
 
Kinda funny now when you look back and remember Ben telling Michael "We're the good guys". The Others do seem to be the good guys, but only because Jacob was the one who was killed, so MIB must be a bad guy. Could we stomach another twist to find out Jacob is the bad guy??
 
Ok.. I know im nitpicking and blah blah but i found it TOTALLY unbeliveable that claire would happliy get back into the cab with Kate after she held her up with a gun to her head, i mean COME ON. I know they're supposed to feel 'connected' to one another because of the seperate timeline or whatever but i found that whole scene so badly written! unconvincing!
 
Ok.. I know im nitpicking and blah blah but i found it TOTALLY unbeliveable that claire would happliy get back into the cab with Kate after she held her up with a gun to her head, i mean COME ON. I know they're supposed to feel 'connected' to one another because of the seperate timeline or whatever but i found that whole scene so badly written! unconvincing!

Claire is also alone and doesn't really have anyone in her life. Her BF left her cause he didn't want to have a kid, her mom was in a coma and she didn't like her Father. And I think in this time of her life going to give her kid up, she felt very afraid and alone and needed someone their at her side, and Kate being a woman definitely would have made her trust her more so than if it was a guy asking to give her a ride.

The bottom line is that some people do crazy things or things that most would find unbelievable....TV show or not this can happen in reality.
 
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And Kate did let her go unharmed and did bring back Claire's stuff so that, the alone stuff and the weird feeling of connection and familiarity to this person gnawing at the back of her brain probably overcame the unpleasantness of the hijacking and gun pointing.
 
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Got Smokey but I passed on that one and the 'WWJLD' one, the Schwarma one was terrible. The Polar Beer and Maaaaalt lines were a little too cheesy for me. If it were cleaned up and looked more like a professional label or ad instead of hand drawn I would've bit.
 
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Cheers to myself!!

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:fireworks Nice work Tom! Did you make it to the last Lost panel at Con? That was fun.
 
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